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post #21 of 132
Ita with posters who would not do it; I want my DD to make that decision herself and if she decides to do to have the fun of going and doing it herself.

I also wanted to add that peircing as an infant is not the only way to get holes that don't close. I think it's genetics more than anything else.

I have holes that were done with a needle when I was 22 and although I wear earrings maybe 2-3 times a year they do not close up. They were originally 14g holes, so maybe that is why they haven't closed : Or maybe it's just innate; I scar badly as a rule and don't heal expecially well--maybe that is what caused it. The two gun-peircings I got in one ear closed up within a week of taking the earrings out wen I got tired of constant infections. But certainly it is possible to have permanent holes without doing it to a baby. I think it's just luck though, mostly.
post #22 of 132
Nope. She needs to lust after them and promise to take care of them when she's older.
post #23 of 132
I'd vote for don't do it. My mother had my ears pierced when I was a baby. Aside from the infections, it went well. :P Except for the fact that I'm against body alteration. I'd never get a tattoo, and I don't do piercings. So when I was a pre-teen, and made this decision to keep my body the way it came, I took my earrings out.

The holes never grew over.

As an adult, I can still put earrings in. It's not the end of the world, but it really does bother me that my ears were pierced without my permission. I never would have chosen to do it, if I had been given a choice at any point in my childhood.

Let your daughter decide.
post #24 of 132
there are too many bad things that could happen, like the holes gettiing infected or she tears one out when she's teething or has an ear infection. My mom didn't let me get my ears pierced until I was about 7 or 8, and she doesn't even have her own ears pierced. I just thought of something.....
post #25 of 132
Thread Starter 
I just thought I would point out that I don't think either of us thinks this is cute and we aren't all about how our daughter will look and how she should act feminin. We've purchased a toy tractor for the child (with help) no matter the gender.

I certianly don't - I would have never considered it.

I honestly think my husband is trying to spare her any pain he can.

Neither of us has ever known anyone who was pierced as an infant so had no info to go on.

He is much less crunchy than I am, though.

Thank you again to the mommas who have given info, this maybe another long discussion for us. Yikes!
post #26 of 132
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Originally Posted by JustJamie View Post
If your DH protests, saying he thinks it's "cute" and "feminine", do a counter-offer. "I don't want to pierce her ears, but you know, I think a labret piercing would be just ADORABLE on her! Don't you think? Or maybe a tiny stud in her nose?"


That's good! I like the different perspective...if you'll pierce ears why not nose? I mean I love piercings, why not the nose instead?
post #27 of 132
I'm gonna go get Dynamohumm6 for this one..she's very well versed in body needles

Basically, I wouldnt dare do it. But if I did, I'd go to a tattoo and body piercing shop.

Basically, according to professionals, the piercing guns at the mall arent fully autoclavable, and the needles that the professionals use are autoclaved.
post #28 of 132
I wouldn't. the most convincing argument I eard was they re choking hazards. reason enough for me to stay away.

that said all my children have peirced ears. they chose to have it done. We delt with infections and lost earrings and such together. it was a pain but I am glad t was thier choice.
post #29 of 132
I agree with everyone else, but I want to add that earrings look tacky on babies and small children, especially boys - ugh.
post #30 of 132
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Originally Posted by bamamom View Post
I'm gonna go get Dynamohumm6 for this one..she's very well versed in body needles

Basically, I wouldnt dare do it. But if I did, I'd go to a tattoo and body piercing shop.

Basically, according to professionals, the piercing guns at the mall arent fully autoclavable, and the needles that the professionals use are autoclaved.
crap, i just had this huge post written out and lost the whole thing.

Anyway...first...I personally am fiercely against decorating anyone's body except my own. I consider ear piercings to be just as much "body modification" as tattoos or anything else. As someone covered in tattoos and having had my fair share of piercings, I fully believe that the owner of the body should be the one in charge of making decisions to decorate it.

That being said...if you DO get your kid's ears pierced (no matter what the age) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not let anyone near them with a piercing gun. Piercing guns can not be fully sterilized (autoclaved), and can harbor a whole host of infections diseases (hep B is the most common with them). They also punch through the tissue instead of creating a "hole" (as a hollow bore piercing needle does), creating scar tissue and difficulty in healing. Studs are always used with piercing guns, and the nature of stud earrings lends to unfavorable healing conditions...not enough air gets to the hole, they are always too tight...hoops are the best jewelry to use for new piercings. Going to a professional piercer (most tattoo shops have piercers) will ensure that you get 100% sterilized instruments, a hollow bore needle (no gun) and someone who is licensed by the state, and has taken certification courses in infectious diseases...not a teenage minimum wage mall employee (the professional piercer might look more intimidating, but do you really want the kid in the mall putting semi-permanent holes in your kid's body??).

A couple links regarding piercing guns and ear piercing:

http://www.akrontattoos.com/Pguns.html
http://www.norwalktattoo.com/piercinggun.htm
http://www.safepiercing.org/FAQ.html

FWIW, several months ago I was in Claire's boutique with my daughter (almost 8 yrs) and my baby boy...buying hair scrunchies for her. There was an infant getting her ears pierced. She had had one done, and the poor baby was purple from screaming. We had to leave the store, my dd was so upset at the baby crying (and them not doing anything except trying to hold her still for the other ear). The pain is NOT minimal, especially from a piercing gun. (I've had both, before I knew the dangers) Hollow bore needles hurt MUCH less, as well.

The rule in my house is that the kids have to really, really want them, and have to be able to care for them themselves. That includes salt-water soaks (which is the most important part of preventing infection, NOT rubbing alcohol, which is also bad for healing!). My dd isn't all that interested yet.
post #31 of 132
I had my ears pierced when I was six, it was my request for my birthday. I've never had any trouble with infections and even when I don't wear earrings for over a year they've never closed up. I really think it's individual to the person.

That being said, I wouldn't pierce an infant's ears as I don't see a real need for it and I'd worry about the baby eating an earring all the time.
post #32 of 132
I'm confused. Why is it up for discussion if neither of you seems to think it's important?

And if your DH does decide that it's important, he may change his mind when he meets his infant and considers putting her through even a moment of pain. If you plan to vaxx, maybe have him wait until after the first shot to decide - I can't see ear piercing being any more comfortable than a shot in the thigh.

My vote's on the "it's her body, let her decide."

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Originally Posted by Ubelle View Post
I just thought I would point out that I don't think either of us thinks this is cute and we aren't all about how our daughter will look and how she should act feminin. We've purchased a toy tractor for the child (with help) no matter the gender.

I certianly don't - I would have never considered it.

I honestly think my husband is trying to spare her any pain he can.

Neither of us has ever known anyone who was pierced as an infant so had no info to go on.

He is much less crunchy than I am, though.

Thank you again to the mommas who have given info, this maybe another long discussion for us. Yikes!
post #33 of 132
I never considered piercing my dd's ears as a baby. she just asked to have them done at 4 and I agreed! we talked about the pain and cleaning and she was fine with it.

she has taken very good care of her ears and is pretty proud of them. I never encouraged or discouraged the idea, she see's me with mine.
post #34 of 132
Thread Starter 
It's up for decision probably because my husband feels every girl will want her ear's pierced someday. He has heard (as had I at one time) that the holes would heal better or faster if this was done as an infant.

I am very sure he is trying to spare her any of the pain/ frustration I go through due to my ear piercings.

He has said that if when she's older and she doesn't want them she can always take them out - therefore it's not the same as the circ issue I debated with him, which is forever.

He hasn't mentioned that he thinks that it would be cute for the baby to have earing. I am trying to find out why he thinks it should be done, He pretty much has just said it would be easier.

Having been pierced myself (other places than my ears) I have always viewed piercing as less permanent than a tattoo (and my DH knows this) however every piercing I have had was MY choice. So I am/was torn on the issue because I am anti circ and this seems similar to me, but then again if it saved her pain and frustration later would it be wrong. That's where my question was coming from. :

I never thought I would offend anyone, I am just confused on how beneficial or harmful this could be, and I really don't want to feel like I am railroading my DH on every subject.
post #35 of 132
I guess the argument of saving them pain later on just doesnt make sense. whether or not it heals quicker (which I dont think it does) shouldnt really be an issue. Lets say that yes, anything will heal quicker on an infant. Okay, just in case she needs her appendix out later, lets take it out now; just in case she wants her ears pierced, lets do it now; just in case she wants a tatto, lets do it now....

See where I'm going? You cant save them from possibe pain later on. Hey, she may not even want them, wouldnt that save her from any pain?

Their body, their choice sums it all up.

I dont think you've offended anyone, its just simple - not your ears, dont peirce 'em. (and you're not railroading your dh, you're educating him, out of love)
post #36 of 132
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
No:

It's her body to alter as she wishes
ears grow - holes done as an infant are often uneven later

-Angela
I agree
post #37 of 132
just because you had problems with your peircings is not an indicator your dd will. the opposite is true for us. I never had any problems, my top holes havn't had earrings in them for the last 10 years and I accidently stuck one in the other day (proof they won't nessecarily close up) with no trouble. i can pull earrings out of a pile of poo and put them in my ears without problems. My children though .. . if they even think of puting cheap earrings in they have gaping bleeding open sores. also if they go more than 24 hours wthout earrings they start to close. go figure. everyones body is different.
post #38 of 132
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Originally Posted by Ubelle View Post
It's up for decision probably because my husband feels every girl will want her ear's pierced someday.

I am very sure he is trying to spare her any of the pain/ frustration I go through due to my ear piercings.

He has said that if when she's older and she doesn't want them she can always take them out.

I guess I'm just really confused on where your husband is coming from on this. : It's not like every woman or young girl wants earrings, and by piercing her as an infant to spare her pain and frustration with earrings as an adult just seems like making her go through possible pain, frustration, infections, etc as a baby?
I had my ear's done when I was a kid, I asked for them, but they were done with a gun. I was at least 8, I can't remember exactly how old. They've never closed up, but they never healed properly, I can't wear earrings for very long or they swell up and hurt (and I have no allergies to any of the metals), and I have huge keloid scars underneath each hole. Every once in a while, even though I NEVER wear earrings, the scar tissue gets irritated or something and I get this huge lump inside my earlobe, under the piercing hole. So while I can take them out, the problems associated from my gun-piercings remain, earrings in them or not.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I just really don't get your dh's point of view. If she decides to get earrings when she is capable of making the decision, she can go into it expecting some degree of pain during the piercing, and knowing what to expect afterwards. An infant is incapable of making that decision, you know? I guess I just don't understand why he thinks she would be immune to the pain or problems that you have with yours, just by getting it done as a baby?
post #39 of 132
I supopse I am the minority here...

I dont think its that big a deal. I also think its importance depends on culture. I am hispanic, and its just a 'thing' we tend to peirce our baby girls ears. I had mine done as an infant, I am told that my grandmother brought all her baby girls home from the hospital with earings. I had my older dd's ears done at 2 weeks. She cried briefly, less than 30 seconds. She didnt get strapped or restrained or anything like that. As soon as I picked her up she stopped, and they were healed up in just about 10 days.

Of course, this is just my experience, no one has to agree with me!
post #40 of 132
If your DH is trying to keep her from "unnecessary pain," then it makes no sense to pierce her ears as an infant. Not only will she feel pain just as much as she would later in life, she will not have any idea WHY she is feeling such pain. Does he think that infants feel pain on a lesser level than older children? I'm not really understanding how this is going to save her from feeling unnecessary pain.
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