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post #1 of 19
12/13/06 at 12:47pm
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I found this thread from last year in the Pregnancy Resources forum and thought it was interesting RE: preterm labor, particularly Periwinkle's post
(3rd down). Maybe some of you will too. I'm interested in what you guys think, particularly about the raspberry leaf.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=385821
post #2 of 19
12/13/06 at 9:01pm
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Really? Nobody?
post #3 of 19
12/14/06 at 2:15am
Hmm.. Well I think it has a lot of good info on PTL. Personally I would stop drinking the RRL since it is supposed to "tone" your uterus, right? I guess you don't need it if you are already having contracts that are changing your cervix. I am glad you posted this because I feel I have been having some cervical changing contracts already though they are not regular. I am UPing so no advice from anyone but I have checked my cervix twice and it seems tobe opening a bit. Since I have no experience checking cervixes (I know that is not the plural form but can't remember what it is now) I have nothing to compare it to so will just keep and eye on things myself. I was going to start drinking RRL as soon as I had the money to buy it but now I am thinking maybe I should wait until I am closer to my EDD. I have read that if you drink a good bit as soon as labor starts it really help with the pain of the contracts.
post #4 of 19
12/14/06 at 10:37am
Not in your DDC, but I started that thread, and I'm wondering what specifically are your questions or concerns about the RRL tea info? I personally think that if your pregnancy is normal and you aren't having contractions, RRL tea is fine, but I can definitely see the wisdom in staying away from it if you're having contractions with cervical changes. When I was having PTL issues with my second, I made choices about what I considered acceptable risk. I personally decided to continue nursing, since the benefit to my older daughter was so important to me. However the RRL tea would not have been as important to me, so if I was drinking it, I would have stopped.
post #5 of 19
12/14/06 at 10:44am
i think the stuff about the RRL tea is crap.

but i certainly am not going to tell someone who is having true PTL to drink anything that feel is bad for them.

all the studies that have been done, all the anacdotal evidence i have heard has never ever shown that RRL tea leads to PTL or any other kid of labor. but, like all herbs and natural health, it's up t the individual to make uphis/her mind about what is best. if you take something and you don't like how it makes you feel you should stop. and that's all i'm going to say.

i have issue with other stuff in the post too. i don't believe all of it.

but, if you are't feeling well, you (the generic you) should call your caregive ASAP. a little reassurance can go a long way.
post #6 of 19
12/14/06 at 12:30pm
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Lousli yea it's the risk I was thinking of. If you've read any of my other posts maybe you saw that I was having some issues last week with frequent contrax. And here I've been drinking RRL right along and just asssumed it would be good. That's the first time I'd seen anything against it (not that I've done extensive research mind you). And I thought the other info was helpful too; tannins in certain beverages for instance.
I don't know if I've had any cervical changes b/c I can't check myself (can barely reach to wipe as it is...sorry for the TMI ).

Honeybee I'm curious as to what you think is crap... RRL in general? I don't want to offend anyone who posted in that thread but I like to get all sides of issues. I thought it seemed like good info in general.

I did end up calling by the way. They didn't tell me anything I didn't know unfortunately though. Except I wasn't sure if I should be timing contractions that weren't painful, and they told me about the 4-5 an hour rule, so they did clear that up I guess.

Thanks for responding guys
post #7 of 19
12/14/06 at 12:37pm
lots of info on this thread RRL tribe:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=347728

there is another in the professional forum, but i'm on my way out the door...
post #8 of 19
12/14/06 at 12:46pm
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Oh thanks. Yea that's the BIG thread about it (I think, unless there are more than one that size). It seems a bit daunting to try and get through all of it but I have perused it a few times and posted once or twice when I first started drinking it. I'll subscribe to it and maybe read a page a day or something
Thanks
post #9 of 19
12/14/06 at 5:34pm
this thread has references to studies:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=548550
post #10 of 19
12/14/06 at 6:17pm
I drank rrl leaf tea during my 1st 2 pregnancies...they went "over due" and I was induced (before I knew better....)
My 3rd pg I dont know why but I didnt drink it...guess I was too busy and it slipped my mind (like this time too...) I had my ds at 36weeks....weird...and it was my longest labor (6 hours) compared to my first 2 that were both only 3 hours...(1st with pitocin, 2nd without.) I also had a hard time progressing and was forced by the on call dr to push my baby out when I was only 9 cm dialated....it was my most painful labor yet, and he was the smallest baby I've had by 1 lb.
So in my experience the rrl tea was good for my pregnancy and deliveries....

Jackie
post #11 of 19
12/15/06 at 1:26am
I don't think the issue with RRL tea is that it CAUSES PTL, but if your uterus is already contracting, and you are already having PTL issues it can AGGRIVATE the situation. So you should stay away from it if you are having PTL, not stay away from it in fear that it would cause it.
post #12 of 19
12/15/06 at 1:44am
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Originally Posted by bikruca View Post
I don't think the issue with RRL tea is that it CAUSES PTL, but if your uterus is already contracting, and you are already having PTL issues it can AGGRIVATE the situation. So you should stay away from it if you are having PTL, not stay away from it in fear that it would cause it.
Lurking from march ddc.

I'm on bedrest for PTL, and this was something I had asked my dr about early on. Someone actually suggested that I drink RRL early on when I started getting heavy BH (before reaching the PTL stage). I thought that sounded odd under the circumstances, especially with a history of early PTL & birth. When I spoke with him about it, he advised against it saying that it could contribute to the problem. It's not something he feels will cause it, rather aggravate it. I have an irritable and enlarged uterus, so it doesn't take much to aggravate me as it is - no sense in tempting fate.
post #13 of 19
12/16/06 at 8:40pm
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I'm staying away from it now just to be on the safe side, since I had a couple days of really consistent BH. I think I'd still be drinking it otherwise though and probably will closer to my edd.
Thanks for the link Honeybee. I'll check it out
post #14 of 19
12/16/06 at 8:45pm
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Originally Posted by bikruca View Post
I don't think the issue with RRL tea is that it CAUSES PTL, but if your uterus is already contracting, and you are already having PTL issues it can AGGRIVATE the situation. So you should stay away from it if you are having PTL, not stay away from it in fear that it would cause it.
i haven't ever seen this documented anywhere. i've been having some issues with constant BH contractions and my MW suggested increasing my RRL and nettle tea.
post #15 of 19
12/17/06 at 2:57pm
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Hmm....

I just don't know what to think.
post #16 of 19
12/18/06 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by MotherWren View Post
Hmm....

I just don't know what to think.
well, i tried it both ways when all these BH started. i tired more tea and then i tried no tea. it didn't make any difference. it was the same.

this is what i found made a difference for me.... now i just want to be clear, i am not having PTL... what i have is NOT labor contractions. they are not painful or intense, but they are annoying and a PITA. however, my mw did check my cervix (even though i told her i already did, she wanted to make sure we were feeling the same thing) on thursday... we both felt that it is slightly open (the external os) one finger width (normal for a mama who has already given birth) and it's starting to get soft. again, it's perfectly normal for your cervix to begin to change at 32 weeks. she said i have a womb that is contracting easily right now, that's all. i should rest, drink more tea and water and call her if they get painful or i have bloody show.

anyway, this i what i have found helps:

massaging my belly with a warming massage oil
drinking more water/tea
laying down on my side and deep breathing
taking a very warm bath
taking a nap
energy tapping for relaxation (which is a whole 'nother post that i'll write up when i have some time)
post #17 of 19
12/18/06 at 1:52pm
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I'm curious about energy tapping. I need some techniques for relaxation. I'm not very skilled at centering myself and I'm afraid this may work against me during labor. I was looking into hypnobirthing/hypnobabies but it seems like a lot of work and honestly I don't see my DH doing "homework". I'm not crazy about it either for that matter, but I do like meditaion. I dunno....
post #18 of 19
12/18/06 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by MotherWren View Post
I'm curious about energy tapping..
i promise i will post about it here in the DDC.... we have to run to greece for some arts and craft supplies as soon as i can rip my son away from lilo and stitch.....
post #19 of 19
12/19/06 at 11:43am
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Ok I look forward to it. Thanks!
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