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The CDC is going to recommend circumcision in the US

post #1 of 90
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/fac...rcumcision.pdf

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CDC HIV/AIDS Science Facts:
Male Circumcision and Risk for HIV Transmission: Implications for the United States
December 2006
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Male circumcision may also have a role for the prevention of HIV transmission in the United States. With the results of three clinical trials showing that male circumcision decreases the risk for HIV infection, CDC is undertaking additional research and consultation to evaluate the potential value, risks, and feasibility of circumcision as an HIV prevention intervention in the U.S
post #2 of 90
*enraged*
post #3 of 90
One step forward, two steps back.
post #4 of 90
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These new studies are, IMO, creating an emotional contagion that's sweeping through the public health authorities all over the world.

It's just a matter of time before they do the cost-effectiveness analysis and decide that circumcision is a better use of "resources" when performed in infancy.
Ugh...
post #5 of 90
But isn't the truth destined to come out? Circumcision simply does not prevent the spread of HIV infection.
post #6 of 90
: I cannot LIVE here anymore.... more and more I just want to move to Australia or New Zealand or Canada...
post #7 of 90
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That just makes me incredibly sad.
post #8 of 90
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Originally Posted by QueenOfThePride View Post
But isn't the truth destined to come out? Circumcision simply does not prevent the spread of HIV infection.
The truth is probably that it does by some very small amount. The NIAID studies weren't inherently flawed in any way that would explain the 50% figure. The real truth is, I'm fairly sure, that circumcision probably does have some small effect there that's simply going to be abrogated by the "50% rumor".
And who knows what the difference would have been between the two groups if they'd completed the damn study. I'm sure it wouldn't have been 50% at 5 years.

But in their haste to "do something quick", millions of babies and children are going to be mutilated all over the world.
post #9 of 90
Those studies came out of third world countries, in which widespread sexual encounters with strangers was the norm. Intercourse was commonly carried out using herbs which rendered the woman's vagina dry and dessicated, without production of natural lubricant. This is a process known as 'dry sex' intended to increase the friction on the penis and enhance sexual pleasure. Also causes abrasions on the penis and vagina which transmit the HIV virus.

Circumcision does nothing to protect against transmission via anal intercourse or IV drug use, the two most common modes in the US.

Risk of HIV transmission from heterosexual contact in the US is very, very low.
post #10 of 90
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Originally Posted by mamabadger View Post
One step forward, two steps back.

I think this one is going to be at least ten steps back. I fear that we may never recover.
post #11 of 90
The next step will be forced libido suppression. Oh wait, that is what they are talking about

What a brave new world.
post #12 of 90
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I hope the CDC ends up thinking like you, blessed. "Public health authorities" tend to have some goofy logic sometimes.
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Originally Posted by mamakay View Post
I hope the CDC ends up thinking like you, blessed.


post #14 of 90
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Hey, blessed...will you empty your PM box?

ETA: Thank ya'.
post #15 of 90
I read "undertaking additional research" not "going to recommend" as your title states. Still upsetting though, I agree.

Mamakay, enough of the confounding factors (such as whether or not the female partners of the men had been subjected to female genital mutilation, as is common in Africa) were not studied that you certainly can't call it "the truth."

When syphillis was our big fear as a culture, circ "prevented" that, too.
post #16 of 90
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Originally Posted by QueenOfThePride View Post
But isn't the truth destined to come out? Circumcision simply does not prevent the spread of HIV infection.

Right, but Money and Fear have bigger mouths than Truth.
post #17 of 90
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They're going to do cost/benefit analysis. Not conducting trials to confirm the NIAID results. They explicitly stated that they were taking the results as factual. Nevermind that this study hasn't even been released or peer reviewed yet. They are officially on the bandwagon.
post #18 of 90
Well I'm still not circing my future sons.

Oh, and I'll be an adult and teach our children our religious views on sex, as well as birth control and condoms.

Hey, I have an idea, lets have parents actually teach their children about sex, and how to prevent disease and pregnancy. Let's see what AIDS rates do then?

Just a bit irked because here it seem that everyone where I live including the state has the head in the sand approach toward sex and STI.
post #19 of 90
After reading the whole link, I'm starting to get the feeling that the only intact boys in the whole U.S. will be those whose mamas (and/or papas) are on MDC!


And I'm afraid that this will make the AIDS rate go up..........when circ'd guys get the feeling that they are "immune."
post #20 of 90
. . . . . but if we circ them as infants we don't ever have to have those uncomfortable sex talks and take a hard look at what our kids might be doing
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