I went on a three-day meat binge and now I want to vomit - Page 3

[kaydee]

Originally Posted by vermontgirl

I dont really know what she wants a bunch of vegetarians and vegans to say to her extreme meat pigout.

How about something like, "Sorry you had a bad experience...glad it helped you find your motivation to be veg once again"?

[Kitsune6]

Originally Posted by kaydee

How about something like, "Sorry you had a bad experience...glad it helped you find your motivation to be veg once again"?

:

Can't we just say 'hey, wish you wouldn't of eaten meat but hey, that's good you chose to not eat it again!'

Maybe I'm just a dork. :

[HelloKitty]

: (not the dork part!)

[Anna06]

I have not read the whole thread. But I read enough to know I think we should be here to support each other.

Hugs to OP, and to babygrant who ask a question on another thread and some responses were not nice.

Or maybe we just need a support thread???:

[genifer]

It does suck that you cant post when you need support here (in this particular part of mdc) without getting flamed like that. Its just wrong. Its very difficult making such lifestyle changes like this. I only started omitting meat from my diet in august so I know its difficult.

[carrotstick]

wow! So much mean-ness! I just joines MDC, and was loving reading all the posts, but I can't believe how some people are treating the OP! I have been veg for about 5 years, even vegan for awhile, but I admit I fall off the wagon... For a lot of people being veg*n is a process and you will mess up along the way. I would rather support someone who has been veg*n and eaten meat then scare them away... Even if she decided to eat some meat once a week or something we should still support her for trying to do better than most people. I don't know if I will stick around or not

[vermontgirl]

Originally Posted by genifer

It does suck that you cant post when you need support here (in this particular part of mdc) without getting flamed like that. Its just wrong. Its very difficult making such lifestyle changes like this. I only started omitting meat from my diet in august so I know its difficult.

Honestly though, doesnt it make sense that if you post that you pigged out on meat in a VEG board that SOMEONE is going to be unsupportive? The key word is VEG board. We all have a right to respond however we want. I dont know why some of you are just so surprised at our lack of support. We are in a VEG BOARD!

[lunamegn]

I have to admit that people who act like the veg*n police really bug me as well. I had a couple friends like that at one time. I think it's the whole being categorized as one thing or another and then having to stick so rigidly to one or another. Even though one person may adhere rigidly to being what a vegan or vegetarian entails, others may not. If anything the op learned how meat can make you feel after you've omitted from your diet. I've been a vegetarian for 6 years and I will have a bite of something with meat in it (rarely, but it happens). Some may not consider that to be very vegetarian, but who cares?? It's my life. I know the consequences and how my body feels when I do eat meat. I also know what eating meat does to the environment and every other ethical reason that people don't eat more for. But it gets down to that it's my choice and I don't let myself feel shitty because it's not something someone else would do.

[HelloKitty]

Well said lunamegn :

[christacular]

i guess the difference between the 100% supportive posters and the rest of us is, we don't think simply "it's her life". it was also the life of the turkey, cow, chicken, and pig she decided to eat.

[Doodlebugsmom]

Originally Posted by vermontgirl

Honestly though, doesnt it make sense that if you post that you pigged out on meat in a VEG board that SOMEONE is going to be unsupportive? The key word is VEG board. We all have a right to respond however we want. I dont know why some of you are just so surprised at our lack of support. We are in a VEG BOARD!

I have to say though, that when someone circs and regrets it, they post on the circ board and are shown much sympathy. I'm extremely anti-circ, but I would never want to make anyone feel bad for making such a mistake that they regret.

[vermontgirl]

Originally Posted by christacular

i guess the difference between the 100% supportive posters and the rest of us is, we don't think simply "it's her life". it was also the life of the turkey, cow, chicken, and pig she decided to eat.

Thank you. Those are my feelings as well. I think that between her and the animals she ate-she got the better end of the deal.

This being said, It honestly doesnt bother me as much as it seems that you had meat. I had meat a few times when I was pregnant. We all have our weak moments. I just dont get why you want sympathy for it on a veg board.

[vermontgirl]

Originally Posted by Doodlebugsmom

I have to say though, that when someone circs and regrets it, they post on the circ board and are shown much sympathy. I'm extremely anti-circ, but I would never want to make anyone feel bad for making such a mistake that they regret.

I agree with this as well.

[lunamegn]

Originally Posted by christacular

it was also the life of the turkey, cow, chicken, and pig she decided to eat.

True.

But if you show so much sympathy and compassion for an animal then shouldn't you do the same for your fellow human being. We are all learning and growing - it doesn't do anyone any good to put others down.

[meowee]

Don't be hard on yourself... I sometimes crave meat. If the feeling doesn't go way, I usually make chicken soup and eat it for a few days. Usually it feels good for a day or so but soon enough I feel like vomiting at the mere site of meat, once again.

I also noticed that my baby's poo is almost "pretty" when I vegan, vs when I am lacto or even eating meat.

I know the above probably sounds gross, but I did notice a completel difference between vegan breastmilk poo and omni breastmilk poo from the baby. The smell of the latter was horrid compared to the former.

Don't beat yourself up... your body led you to what it did. Just start over with a delicious, healthy vegan dish!!!

[Amila]

Thanks again so much guys. By posting this here on the VEG board, I guess I was looking for support, but mostly to just share my experience and how it made me feel. I thought it was appropriate for this board because ultimately, I came back to my decision to be veg. If I had stated that I ate all of that and said, "And I can't believe what I was missing!" then there would be some cause for concern, and it would be totally inappropriate. That is my reasoning at least.

[dharmamama]

Originally Posted by Amila

*I hate having to struggle every day thinking of what to eat.

Have you considered creating a meal plan? Then you would know and wouldn't have to struggle.

*No matter how many vegetarian cookbooks I buy I still seem to make the same recipes over and over (DH is pretty picky)

This is not a problem that afflicts only vegetarians. Lots of people who eat meat are stuck in a rut, too.

*I don't feel like I cook real "meals" for DH and it bothers me because it is important to me that I cook beautiful healthy meals,

When I first became veg I had this problem too. I solved it by making sure that each meal has a main dish, a side dish, and a fruit. I try to make sure that each meal has a fruit, a grain, a vegetable, and a protein source.

*It is sooo much easier to just eat meat

I have never felt this way. To me, preparing meat seems to be a real hassle.

I have a meal plan drawn up for five weeks. Each week we have a Mexican meal, a soup meal, a rice meal, two-three Ethiopian meals, and a pasta meal. I have five different dishes for each type of meal, so we have a total of 35 different meals. I think it provides a good variety and the family doesn't complain about being bored.

I have also found that it's easy to replace the meat in a meal. For example, instead of a beef or chicken burrito, I make a black bean or a spinach burrito. Instead of pasta with meat sauce, I make pasta with a vegetable sauteed in olive oil or a pasta sauce with fresh vegetables cooked in.

Good luck!

Namaste!

ETA: We rarely eat soy, there are many other options for getting protein. Although there are some meat substitutes that I like the taste of, most of them I don't, but moreover, dh and I kinda feel like, if we have chosen not to eat meat, why would we want to eat fake meat? That's just our reasoning, but my point is that it's pretty easy not to eat soy.

E again TA: I read the whole thread, sorry you got some mean comments. Once when I was pregnant I ordered a breakfast burrito from McDonald's (yeah, I never eat there, but I was on my way to work and feeling morning sick and suddenly it sounded good) unaware that it had meat in it. Once I realized it did, I ate the rest of it anyway because, hey, I was morning sick and it sounded good.

[christacular]

Originally Posted by lunamegn

True.

But if you show so much sympathy and compassion for an animal then shouldn't you do the same for your fellow human being. We are all learning and growing - it doesn't do anyone any good to put others down.

i didn't put anyone down. in fact, i'd say that i've been the one to be put down by being told that it's vegans "like me" that give vegetarianism a bad name, that i'm judgemental and rude, that i lack compassion for human beings, and that i turn people off; simply because i responded to a post about someone willingly choosing to eat flesh with less than 100% hippydippy don't-worry-about-it darlin vibes. sorry, but i don't roll like that and i never have. i think it's a bit naive to think that every self-proclaimed veggie should be told it's ok to "slip up" and eat animal products. how often can a person slip up and still call themselves veggie? once a year? once a month? once a week?

also, the comparison between having sympathy towards a woman who has her son circ'd and regrets it later, and a self-proclaimed vegan who chooses to go ahead an eat meat is really a stretch.

[Doodlebugsmom]

Originally Posted by christacular

also, the comparison between having sympathy towards a woman who has her son circ'd and regrets it later, and a self-proclaimed vegan who chooses to go ahead an eat meat is really a stretch.

Well, I wasn't really trying to compare them in that way. I was trying to say that if people go to a board called "The Case Against Circumcision" for support for a decision they made and feel regretful for, why should they feel they couldn't go to a veg board for support for a mistake they made and feel regret about. Especially when each board belongs to the same forum.

[christacular]

mis·take (mĭ-stāk') pronunciation
n.

1. An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.
2. A misconception or misunderstanding.


eating meat in something without knowing it's there is a mistake. for vegetarians, not understanding that mcdonald's french fries are made with beef tallow and eating them is a mistake. not knowing that suet is the fat from around the kidneys of a cow and using it in your mincemeat pie is a mistake. not knowing where gelatin comes from and eating jello is a mistake. this wasn't a mistake. this was a very concious and deliberate decision to consume the flesh of animals.