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post #1 of 18
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OK possibly a stupid question but......My baby has shown an alergy to peas and strawberry's (i didn't know not to give these this young: ) I have had to start solids early because it was a choice between solids, or giving the hypercaloric formula. Yup I chose solids. (baby is 5 mos and just hit 13 pnds) Anyway can these alergins pass through my milk to him...should I eliminate them from my diet? Could allergys to other things in my milk be the reason he has poor weight gain? Sgould I eliminate other things from my diet? If so what? Sorry lots of ?'s. There is a family hhistory of allery's (mine ) I am the allery queen....but this is my first baby with alleries.
post #2 of 18
Whatever you eat, your baby eats, so yes you should eliminate those from your diet.

Dairy is a common allergy in babies. Does he have any sign of eczema, excessive spitting up, or blood in his diaper?

And this is my two cents and unsolicitated, so take it for what its worth, formula would be more calorie dense then any form of solid you could possibly give your DS. I don't like formula much myself, but it isn't nutritionally void. As to the weight gain, have you tried putting flax seed oil in his solids?
post #3 of 18
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He has exema on his legs, and arms. He has also been dxed with GERD (reflux) I will not give him formula, or a bottle because i fought for this breastfeeding relationship, and we are finally doing great at it, I don't want to do anything to comprimise it. What is flax seed oil? I have not seen anything weird with his poops...
post #4 of 18
You know, I would definitely eliminate all dairy from your diet. If you can do it, I would also get him tested by an allergist or have a blood draw and RAST test. I fought for allergy testing for 8 long months with DS and we discovered that he has an allergy to atleast 3 foods.


I'm not saying you should stop bf by any means. But, if you gave him formula in a sippy or a bottle (nipple confusion *shouldn't* be a problem at this point), it would supplement or even if you used formula with a lact-aid system, but if you've had problems I understand not wanting to compromise your relationship.

Flax seed oil is a oil that is made from flax seed (i'm real technical!). I found it in the refrigerated health section at our local grocery store. I'm sure health food stores carry it. Capsule form will do not good since your DS couldn't swallow it. When DS was on pureed sollids, I would mix a tablespoon of it into his food. It has a strong nutty taste and doesn't mix well, but it is good in fats and for skin conditions. People put it in smoothies and all sorts of things as it is high in Omega-3s.

I'm not sure if you could dose him with it with a medicine dropper or not. I have not tried, but if it can be taken in capsule form, I'd bet it'd be okay.
post #5 of 18
There was a study done around the time my oldest was born that found some women "leak" the allergen proteins into their milk while others don't. It can't hurt, however, to remove the allergens from your diet just in case.

My baby has multiple sensitivities and allergies. Our ped (who is also a ped allergist) said to keep a journal of what I eat and Fritz's reactions and eliminate anything that causes a problem.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
I called around today, and the naturopath dr said he can do an allergy test, how reliable is this?
post #7 of 18
I don't know what kind of test they'd do. DS has had the back prick test and a RAST test (blood draw). Worth a try! Keep us updated, kay?
post #8 of 18
Snangel- I was just wondering why your ped is concerned about your ds weight? Is he just gaining slow? I just ask because my daughter just turned 5months and is not quite 12 pounds and it didn't seem to concern her ped at all. Of course dd was only 5lb 11 oz when born though. My daughter has had mucousy stools since she was born and I am now on day 12 of a dairy free diet. She has no other symptoms other than that. And her stools have still not improved. I am going to give it 2 more days and then start eating dairy again. Eczema seems to almost always indicate an allergy to something. Some mothers who have 'leaky guts' will pass more food proteins into thier breastmilk so maybe check out the 'healing the gut' tribe. Also it can take up to two weeks for the proteins in some foods (particularly dairy) to leave your breast milk. Just to let you know in case you decide to go on an elimination diet.
post #9 of 18
iluvmybabies - You might want to give it at least another week. It takes up to *3* weeks for dairy to get out of breastmilk (2 1/2 weeks was the point for me) and can take longer than that for it to get out of the baby's system. And of course other allergens could cause mucous poop, too.
post #10 of 18
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He also has mucousy poops, I just never knew that could be because of an alergin.....There is so much I don't know......The ped is concerned because my baby is also special needs. He has an "unknown" genetic condition. We are still looking into what it is. He was born with (2) ear atresia, epilesy, scoliosis, torticolis, underdeveloped jaw, and cheek bones, malformed toes and thumb joints. Also has GERD (severe reflux) and immuno comprimised (unknown why) they have done lots of tests, just no answers. Now all these allergies........I just wish i could take this all away from him, he shouldn't have to deal with all of this. So if I can make just this one thing better for him, I can rest. I am going to do the TED after I get some more info on it. I am willing to do anything to help him, and save our nursing relationship. I eleminated (starting yesterday) dairy, strwberry, peas, lentils from my diet. Not sure where to go next with eliminating. Can't see the naturopath till after the holidays.....
post #11 of 18
Snangel, our dd (7 mos, ebf) had mucousy poops since she was very little and developed eczema later. I am now eliminating dairy, eggs, gluten (wheat and other grains with gluten), soy and other legumes, corn, nuts, pineapple, strawberries, tomatoes. Her allergy eyes are better and her skin is getting better slowly. Still mucousy poops, so I should probably do the TED, but will give it a few more weeks. But what I actually wanted to say is that she is gaining weight much better. She has always been skinny and the last few weeks she has been gaining so much more than before even though I wasn't that serious about eliminating things completely. I think it might get even better now that I am more serious about it. I think dairy, wheat and eggs are good ones to start with.
post #12 of 18
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what's TED?

(so much to learn...) :
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Total Elimination Diet(TED)
post #14 of 18
snangel, I'm so sorry you and your baby have so much to deal with. Sometimes life is just so unfair.
Your description of ecxema, mucousy poop, GERD and slow weight gain sounds like symptoms of food allergies. If any of those symptoms were present before starting solids I would say that the allergens are definately passing into your breastmilk. I think that is the case more often than not. So imo you should Do an elimination diet. It's really really hard, I think you should know that up front, but if you can do it, it's SO worth it when you see the allergic symptoms go away. One thing about an elimination diet is you will lose a bunch of weight really fast, most people find it disturbing, but it doesn't last. I dropped over 30 pounds in just a couple months but then things leveled out and I didn't lose any more. (darn). I also felt like crap and cried a lot, but that doesn't last either. I wish someone had told me about that stuff ahead of time so I wouldn't have worried about it so much. It's just your body adjusting. It will NOT affect your milk supply as long as you drink lots of water. And take your vitamins!

Obviously, I don't know the whole story here, but I find it REALLY weird that a doctor would recommend solids for weight gain. Ounce for ounce, breastmilk has more calories and useable nutrition than any solid food. And babies can only eat so much. I think that solids will make him cut down on nursing and may lead to even slower gain! Does he have trouble nursing or anything? Is he super skinny? At five months my daughter weighed 13 pounds also and she has food allergies. She is also just a petite person...she was never a fat baby but not bony or skinny looking either. Her doc thought her weight was fine even though she wasn't on the chart. I, of course, worried myself silly. (She is 2 now and has outgrown several allergies but is still allergic to eggs, milk, beef and pears. She weighs 23 pounds now).

What has your baby eaten that he has NOT shown an allergy to? If his gut is still immature giving him solids can CAUSE an allergy...my dd is allergic to pears and I think that's why. Pears are the least allergenic fruit there is.

You can do a modified elimination diet to start with and you might get lucky...that's where you just cut out the most common allergens and anything you suspect. Dairy, eggs, wheat, soy, nuts and seafood along with what you saw him react to. I did that and it didn't work, but I still think it's worth a try. The TED didn't work well for us either because she was allergic to rice. In hindsight it should have been obvious, but it wasn't until we did testing that we found it out, but I was suspecting by then. We did a RAST (blood test) at nine months and skin tests at 9 1/2 and 10 1/2 month. You need to do an elimination diet first though because they can only test babies for a limited number of things, so you need a list of "suspects".

Good luck with it, and remember whatever you choose to do dietwise, it's not forever and it WILL help your baby!
post #15 of 18
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He has always had these problems, so I don't know that it can be attributed to the solids. We have an allery test at the naturopath today at 3pm (my time) I am really hoping for a starting point with that. At least some guesses on where to start would be nice. Thanx for your support, I will let you guys know what happens today.....
post #16 of 18
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iluvmybabies - You might want to give it at least another week. It takes up to *3* weeks for dairy to get out of breastmilk (2 1/2 weeks was the point for me) and can take longer than that for it to get out of the baby's system. And of course other allergens could cause mucous poop, too.
I've read that it takes 6 weeks for dairy to get out of your system.
post #17 of 18
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I called around today, and the naturopath dr said he can do an allergy test, how reliable is this?
We went to a naturopath for allergy testing and treatment. She is a NAET practioner (www.naet.com) and it actually seemed very accurate and the treatment also seemed to work.
I won't give Kelsey the stuff she has tested positive to an a skin test, but the muscle response testing identified several more "allergens' (NAET uses the word allergen very loosely) and we treated her for them with accupressure and she gained a pound in a month (huge for her) and quit getting hives daily and started eating solid food.
I dunno, I find NAET so weird I can hardly think about it, but I also think it worked for us. Our naturopath said she believes it works but it may not work for someone who is really skeptical. (I am skeptical, but Kelsey is not, she's only two.) We did it using me as a surrogate, I held Kelsey with skin to skin, and she tested ME. She also did the treatment the same way. Whatever happened, we saw big changes in the same timeframe!
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by Pauli View Post
We went to a naturopath for allergy testing and treatment. She is a NAET practioner (www.naet.com) and it actually seemed very accurate and the treatment also seemed to work.
I won't give Kelsey the stuff she has tested positive to an a skin test, but the muscle response testing identified several more "allergens' (NAET uses the word allergen very loosely) and we treated her for them with accupressure and she gained a pound in a month (huge for her) and quit getting hives daily and started eating solid food.
I dunno, I find NAET so weird I can hardly think about it, but I also think it worked for us. Our naturopath said she believes it works but it may not work for someone who is really skeptical. (I am skeptical, but Kelsey is not, she's only two.) We did it using me as a surrogate, I held Kelsey with skin to skin, and she tested ME. She also did the treatment the same way. Whatever happened, we saw big changes in the same timeframe!
We did something very similar with out chiropractor and it worked! We had 3 family members with food sensitivities. We've been given the all clear for most of them now 1 year later. I would recommend it to anyone!
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