Originally Posted by AikeaGuinea
It breaks my heart when the anti-vax faction jokes around like this. Have you ever talked to someone who grew up in the 30's or 40's when these diseases were still around? Better yet, have you ever talked to an elderly woman who raised children during the days before the vaccination program started? They would shame you for the way you talk about these VPDs. Many many tears were shed over children who contracted and died from VPDs, tears that parents nowadays do not have to shed because our children are all protected by vaccines and herd immunity. My mother, who was born in 1947, told me how she and her brothers were not allowed to go to public events because they might get polio. In her small school alone there were 5 or 6 children who had leg braces from polio paralysis. And let's not attribute it to poor nutrition and sanitation because back then people ate a heck of a lot better than we do now. I wish everyone who is against vaccination and doesn't believe in the efficacy of vaccines would spend some time with a mother in her 70's or 80's if you want to hear what life was like for mothers and children before vaccines.
Anti vaxers can laugh all they want about 15 babies dying and people being crippled but back then you should have seen the lines for the polio vaccines when they became available.
Bah. So what you're saying is that babies/people killed by vax-available disease (sorry, don't like vpd...) are more tragic than those killed/injured by vaxes? Given that deaths from VAD's are reported pretty reliably but injuries are not-even the CDC states it's around 10%...that argument is bunk to me. We'll never know what the true risk is until all
adverse reactions are reported and all
incidents of disease are accurately diagnosed.
Most VADs you get, and then get over. Assuming that you are generally healthy. Most vax reactions cause long term effects. Does the lost potential of the number of autistic children not break your heart as well? What about the numbers lost to disease caused by vax contaminants when they only 'might' have gotten the disease they were vaxed for? Like SV40 cancer?
If they were truly safe, there would not be the level of deception (attempted and otherwise) in all things related to the CDC and FDA. And it's not just vaxes that I question. Tylenol, anyone?
We can agree to disagree if you like. Just don't expect me to do what I think is unsafe because you (not you personally, Aikea-society in general) are afraid not to.