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[RedOakMomma]

Guys, people aren't going to agree in the issue of this family--it's just too odd, too extreme, and too explosive of a situation. Discussion is good, but I don't think there's much chance of convincing anyone about what's right or what's appropriate.

And I don't think this particular tragic situation is typical of 99.99% of adoptive parents or birth parents, but using terms like "vultures" and "baby stealers" in an adoptive parents forum is bound to hurt some feelings and cause anger. While the poster using those terms might not be referring to adoptive parents in general or the adoptive parents here, these are extremely offensive words/concepts to adoptive parents.

This is an extreme comparison, but you wouldn't ever use the "n" word to describe a certain person, then say to other black people present "I was only using to describe THAT PERSON," kwim? The word(s) hurt, plain and simple.

[RedOakMomma]

Originally Posted by Satori

HG sufferers are a radically different class of women when it comes to mental states during and shortly after birth and they should be protected from making any life altering decisions while effected and if you have a problem with that then maybe you need to look at your own motivations and why it bothers you.

I think almost everyone here would agree that HG sufferers should get added protection from making life altering decisions, but the "problem" wasn't only about that--it was about the language used in describing the adoptive parents. She was bothered by your language, and that's what she told you, and she had every reason to be bothered by it. I think tempers are getting in the way of seeing what people are truly offended by.

Seriously, folks---->

[blessed]

Originally Posted by Satori

HG sufferers are a radically different class of women when it comes to mental states during and shortly after birth and they should be protected from making any life altering decisions while effected...

That's an interesting concept. So these woman should be declared incompetent to manage their own legal affairs?

[the_lissa]

Originally Posted by Starr

Thats one...

Okay, but she quoted post 90 which didn't say anything like that.

And besides the point, she wasn't calling all adoptive parents baby stealers or vultures. She was calling this couple, and I definitely agree that their actions are horrific.

[blessed]

Originally Posted by erin_d_a

I am done with you. I don't have time.

So, at least we're back to talking about the actual facts of this case..

[erin_d_a]

Adoptive parents are neither babye stealers nor vultures. I think a little common courtesy could be used on an adoption forum.

I am an adoptive mom myself and I am not a baby stealer. My DH and I participated in an ethical legal adoption. The Needhams did not, this makes them child abductors, not adoptive parents. We had a placement before our daughter was born where mom changed her mind and we could have fought her and kept the baby. If we would have done that and not returned her daughter to her, that would have made us abductors. There is a big difference between adoptive parents and abductors but they both exist in the adoption industry.

The facts in the Allison Quets case are clear and show that the Needhams and Shornstein did everything in their power to steal children from a woman who was sick and confused. That is why the courts granted visitation to Allison until they could figure out all the facts of the case. They threw out vast amounts of falsified information that had been concocted by the attorney and the Needhams. The notery public even testified under oath that Shorstein back dated documents, which is an offense that could cause him to be disbarred.

[lauren]

Closing thread for review.