lrttle - Webster has an extremely high success rate. Never have I said that it always works. FWIW, I called every chiro within 2 hours from me to discuss their personal success rates with them. There is a chiro literally 2 minutes from my house who is certified in Webster but his success rate was only 50%. That doesn't fall in line with any of the test/studies that have been done on Webster so I knew something wasn't right there. When I discussed this procedure with him he wasn't able to answer all of my questions which was a big fed flag to me that he wasn't doing something right. Webster has to be performed correctly in order to work. The chiro I ended up seeing had an extremely high personal success rate and it was worth it for me to drive so far to see her. She clearly knew what she was doing.
Websters was the only thing I didn't do because there was not a provider here at this time. However I am pretty damn sure it wouldnt have worked, no matter how skilled the provider was.
Again, I think this "information" is being used to look down on mothers who chose to have cesareans for breech presentation - whether by choice or by not having any other options. Vaginal breech deliveries due carry risk, and in some studies it has shown that vaginal breech deliveries carry a higher incidence of death than those born by cesarean section (I believe its 1% higher) and they have a 2.5% higher rate of having birth injuries or other problems than those born by csection. This informatiom came from the Term Breech Study fyi. Collaborating evidence to this would be the Swedish Breech Study Group. Of course there is information to the contrary, but it seems to me it would be up to the WOMAN to decide which evidence to consider when it comes to how she should deliver her baby and what is safest.
I want to say that my grandmother had a breech baby -- however there were complications to her delivery and my aunt did have problems from her delivery. However it was not common to deliver a baby by csection at that time. My husbands grandmothers both had breech presentation babies at home, both attended by midwives without any problems. However note these were their 5th and 6th births not their first births. However these "grannies" who attended many births, can also tell you about problems they witnessed with breech presentations and even death -- and these women didn't have options like csections. Its all good to glorify breech vaginal births of the good ole days but no one on this forum wants to talk about the complications that occurred in the "good ole days" and how women didn't have many options then either.