Healing the Gut Tribe--January 2007 - Page 2

[joeysmom1729]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

joeysmom, what is it about the SCD that makes you hungry? I remember being hungry only when I tried to combine SCD and anti-candida. Is it because you can't do dairy? That would make it harder. Can you do nuts? I think nut butter is the first to be introduced. Eat lots of fatty meat, like lamb and dark meat poultry and salmon and beef. Eat freqently. Eat bananas! And introduce cooked apples fairly soon. And if having it around temps you then don't have it in the house! If you need carbs, eat more carrots! The soup has a ton of carrots in it, that should help. You could also try a bit of cooked squash like butternut squash. It's not on the intro diet, but it's better than rice!

I guess I just have too many rice products in the house and it's too easy for me to grab them. I was also hooked on Van's gluten free waffles. I also couldn't do the yogurt, so I just didn't know what else to eat. Too much juice makes my diarrhea worse. I actually am trying again today. I'm really determined to do this!! I've had diarrhea for over a month now and I'm getting so weak. I see my gastro tomorrow and I know he's going to bring up 6-MP, which I refuse to go on. That is why I really have to give this diet a shot. How soon can I try the nut flour muffins?

[bluets]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

Hi everyone,
No time to catch up right now but a quick question.

I bought the bobs red mill coconut flour. Are other brands of coconut flour better? This stuff tastes like cardboard! I thought the brm almond meal was bad!

wilderness family naturals is a good one. i've also read that tropical traditions has good stuff too.

[bluets]

Originally Posted by joeysmom1729

I guess I just have too many rice products in the house and it's too easy for me to grab them. I was also hooked on Van's gluten free waffles. I also couldn't do the yogurt, so I just didn't know what else to eat. Too much juice makes my diarrhea worse. I actually am trying again today. I'm really determined to do this!! I've had diarrhea for over a month now and I'm getting so weak. I see my gastro tomorrow and I know he's going to bring up 6-MP, which I refuse to go on. That is why I really have to give this diet a shot. How soon can I try the nut flour muffins?

if you make bone broths and can get some of the broth to gel, the gel also makes a yummy snack. or buy some gelatin powder from the store and use it to make plain gelatin.

[MeMommy]

Anyone on here tried EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) for their gut issues? I'm an EFT therapist, but I didn't even think about trying it for my yeast! Yesterday I read this article, andthat's what gave me the idea.

I'm going to try it, I'll let you all know what happens!!

[moonshine]

Anyone here dealing with reflux? Seems it is what I have, or at least one of many things. Curious as to what you are doing for it.

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by moonshine

Anyone here dealing with reflux? Seems it is what I have, or at least one of many things. Curious as to what you are doing for it.

I take Betaine HCL tablets with meals. As long as I take the right amount I don't have problems with reflux. They're supposed to eventually teach your stomach to produce the right amount of HCL again, and I was able to reduce my dose from 4 per meal to 2-3 per meal after a while, so hopefully I'll eventually be able to stop them altogether. I take the 350 mg ones but the 60-650 mg ones seem more common.

[caedmyn]

Anyone have any experience with kinesiology (sp?)? I'm thinking about trying it for DD if nothing else works.

[Chinese Pistache]

Subbing.

We've talked about IgE vs IgG allergies here before. When I started this whole gut-healing journey, I was sure that we had food sensitivities (IgG) due to leaky gut. Now that we've been diagnosed with regular old IgE ones, I wonder how that plays into gut healing. I'm frustrated by not knowing how it's all connected. I don't buy that we've got these allergies because of unlucky genetics since we do not have a family history of allergies at all. And yet, my dd is definitely allergic to a few things now, and sensitive to many more. SCD isn't even an option because, among other things, we are avoiding all nuts and dairy and many fruits.

Anyone want to discuss this?

[formerluddite]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

Anyone have any experience with kinesiology (sp?)? I'm thinking about trying it for DD if nothing else works.

we tried NAET 4 years ago when dd1 was just shy of 2. the accupuncturist used kinesiological testing as the basis for diagnosing the allergies, then as the retest after applying the technique (accupressure on some particular meridian while in contact with the allergenic item or a vial of homeopathically prepared allergen).

i also saw a chiropractor for pregnancy induced hypertension, and he used kinesiological testing to decide what supplements to give me, and as pre/post testing for treatment.

[formerluddite]

coconut oil allergy question

been reading here for about a month, trying to learn more in relation to our family's issues. dd1 had numerous food sensitivities as a baby, we did elimination dieting (off dairy and soy for over a year), later did NAET and a candida cleanse with some success, in that her sleep improved somewhat, eczema (developed at 18 mos in elbow/knee folds) improved somewhat, and adding soy and dairy back into our diet didn't exacerbate things.

i've suspected at times that yeast has flared back up, and reading here makes me wonder if anyone ever really gets rid of it. as maintainance we take probiotics, and i've been adding commercial kefir, kombocha tea recently since learning about them here. i added coconut oil (spectrum organic virgin unrefined) as a supplement about 3 weeks ago, taking 1/2 tablespoon 2-3 times a day. a week ago i had a reaction to some nuts dh brought home (my lips itched and swelled a bit) whereas i usually eat nuts (occasionally) with no problem. yesterday i felt my mouth itch about 10 min after taking the coconut oil. i also itched after eating an avocado, which i reacted to sometimes years ago, but haven't had any problem with lately.

so i'm wondering if i've been unknowingly allergic to coconut, and daily exposure is making it more apparent, and lowering my tolerance to all things that i might be "a little" allergic to. i've always loved coconut, especially fresh in the tropics, but also dried, candied, milk, etc. i know that sometimes the foods you love are the ones you're allergic to, once you get hooked on the body's beta-endorphine response.

some earlier posts mentioned mycotoxins in some CO; i'm also wondering if the brand i'm eating has this issue, and maybe i'm reacting to that, not the coconut (i hope...).

i had my husband do NAET on me for the CO. i hope he hit the right spot; he's quite the skeptic and it'd been a few years since i needed anything cleared so i'm a little fuzzy on where to press. i'll try the CO again in a few days.

any advice/insight?

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by formerluddite

yesterday i felt my mouth itch about 10 min after taking the coconut oil. i also itched after eating an avocado, which i reacted to sometimes years ago, but haven't had any problem with lately.

so i'm wondering if i've been unknowingly allergic to coconut, and daily exposure is making it more apparent, and lowering my tolerance to all things that i might be "a little" allergic to. i've always loved coconut, especially fresh in the tropics, but also dried, candied, milk, etc. i know that sometimes the foods you love are the ones you're allergic to, once you get hooked on the body's beta-endorphine response.

some earlier posts mentioned mycotoxins in some CO; i'm also wondering if the brand i'm eating has this issue, and maybe i'm reacting to that, not the coconut (i hope...).

i had my husband do NAET on me for the CO. i hope he hit the right spot; he's quite the skeptic and it'd been a few years since i needed anything cleared so i'm a little fuzzy on where to press. i'll try the CO again in a few days.

any advice/insight?

Oh my, this has been my experience recently. I've never been a big coconut eater. I enjoyed it, but never went out of my way to get it.

We bought coconut oil when we gave up dairy (to replace butter) and I've been using it somewhat regularly. But I just started eating more coconut milk and last week, I made coconut yogurt. I ate one small container every day that week and I noticed that my mouth started to feel a bit itchy and I felt a bit congested. Also, dd (who is nursing and allergic to other things) refused the yogurt after her first bite. Last night, I made an Indian dish that included about 5 oz of that yogurt. DD ate one bite of the meat, and spit out the next. My mouth started to feel very itchy , and the roof of my mouth seemed scratched (like when I ate Captain Crunch as a kid: ). I got a headache, too, that came on suddenly a few minutes later.

Anyway, I'm taking dd in for some further allergy testing, but we're definitely avoiding coconut for now. I'm really freaked out that I'm having a problem with it, because in the past little while, I seem to be reacting to many things I've never had a problem with before.

[sparkletruck]

Could this be die off? You are both, if i remember right, dealing with yeast? CO is an antifungal... although that wouldnt explain the reactions to the other stuff..

[sparkletruck]

Moonshine - are you still doing TCM? Ive heard of people having success with reflux doing that, if the HCL doesnt work. Walt Stoll's site has a lot of info about the relationship btwn stress and GI issues (and not in the obvious, Im stressed/anxious so shunting blood from my GI tract). I have found his ideas - based on well accepted research - very relevent to me, surprisingly so. If you want to hear more, PM me, and Ill tell you all about my issues

[amis2girls]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

DD's reflux symptoms seem to have gone away since I eliminated wheat. Unfortunately I think she may be reacting to something else I'm eating, probably either eggs or tomatoes

Can I ask you what diet you're doing? Eliminating the top 8 or something else more geared toward healing the gut?

Or is it all the same? :

[bluets]

coconut oil, avocado...

i *just* read on the yahoo GFCFNN list that coconut oil and avocados are high in salicylates (amongst other offending things). could that be part of the problem?

[mommy2girlies]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

I posted a reply for you on the December thread

Thank you....Eczema looks great today. Redness is completely gone, although you can still see very faint little bumps. In the areas where it was really mild, its now gone: So its either the solids or dairy. So I've stayed off dairy for good for the past few days, but we're pretty sure its the food he's eating. We're gonna wait for a few more days and try solids again and see what his trigger is.

Thanks for the feedback

[mommy2girlies]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

joeysmom, what is it about the SCD that makes you hungry? I remember being hungry only when I tried to combine SCD and anti-candida. Is it because you can't do dairy? That would make it harder. Can you do nuts? I think nut butter is the first to be introduced. Eat lots of fatty meat, like lamb and dark meat poultry and salmon and beef. Eat freqently. Eat bananas! And introduce cooked apples fairly soon. And if having it around temps you then don't have it in the house! If you need carbs, eat more carrots! The soup has a ton of carrots in it, that should help. You could also try a bit of cooked squash like butternut squash. It's not on the intro diet, but it's better than rice!

We're doing the SCD with my dh and he swears he's not hungry. I would be starving!! So as a household we've cut down on carbs and have gone vegetarian again. And because of ds, Im dairy free! : We've really had to get rid of some of our foods that we crave, cuz both of us have no will power. If its in the house and I want it, its nearly impossible for me to say no. I can rationalize anything, especially if chocolates involved. I LOVE food and now its so frustrating. Im hungry but its almost too much trouble to figure out what I can eat. Im a huge cheese fan!! Does anyone have any good suggestions for veggie cheese. A kind that melts good? Am I asking the impossible?

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache

Subbing.

We've talked about IgE vs IgG allergies here before. When I started this whole gut-healing journey, I was sure that we had food sensitivities (IgG) due to leaky gut. Now that we've been diagnosed with regular old IgE ones, I wonder how that plays into gut healing. I'm frustrated by not knowing how it's all connected. I don't buy that we've got these allergies because of unlucky genetics since we do not have a family history of allergies at all. And yet, my dd is definitely allergic to a few things now, and sensitive to many more. SCD isn't even an option because, among other things, we are avoiding all nuts and dairy and many fruits.

Anyone want to discuss this?

I feel like we are in a similar situation. We have food sensitivities, maybe some food allergies, but are they caused by leaky gut or is leaky gut the result of being sensitive to these foods? I have started on the Failsafe diet to see if that can help us. I have just started it, so I don't know that I can offer you any advice, but I can post the websites where I have been getting my info.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/allergyd...tolerance.html
http://www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuf...tion-diet.aspx
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.in...afebooklet.pdf
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~breakey/index.html

I am also a member at the yahoo groups FailsafeUS, FailsafeNT, and failsafebaby. I have started the Failsafe elimination diet CFGF and egg free. I have also cut out all my supplements, as many of them bother chemically sensitive people. I want to start the diet as clean as possible so we can try to find out what is bothering us.

SCD helped but in the end it is not the answer for us.

[Punchy Kaby]

Originally Posted by bluets

i *just* read on the yahoo GFCFNN list that coconut oil and avocados are high in salicylates (amongst other offending things). could that be part of the problem?

This is one of the things that Failsafe aims to cut out, as well as amines and sulphites, and of course nasty chemicals.

Only on day 3 of the diet, but I have no cravings of any sort. I am usually a late night muncher (especially for crunchy foods) and even though sugar is allowed on this diet, I don't want it.

[MeMommy]

Originally Posted by caedmyn

Anyone have any experience with kinesiology (sp?)? I'm thinking about trying it for DD if nothing else works.

We got DD tested by a kineseologist when I thought she had reflux, but really she just had multiple food sensitivities. The kineseologist was able to tell me what to avoid, and since then DD has been a different, and happier baby.