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post #201 of 390
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Too much detoxing? This morning it seemed I was finally over the hump with this latest face rash. It wasn't completely gone, but the end was in sight. Then this afternoon/evening it appears to be coming back. : I did get a homeopathic cream to help with rashes, inflammation, etc, and it seems to be helping, thank goodness, but I did wondering if this would be my die-off? The other possibility is that I am reacting to the dairy I had today -- raw milk kefir. Goodness, I hope not.

I have been taking epsom salt baths and I am now thinking I should get pascelite clay to help sop up toxins. I now also have glutamine and EPO and more SA. Any other ideas?
What if you detoxed for a couple of days and didn't take any supplements? Any extra supplements that aren't getting used by your body have to be cleaned out by the liver and kidneys.
post #202 of 390
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Originally Posted by moonshine View Post
Too much detoxing? This morning it seemed I was finally over the hump with this latest face rash. It wasn't completely gone, but the end was in sight. Then this afternoon/evening it appears to be coming back. : I did get a homeopathic cream to help with rashes, inflammation, etc, and it seems to be helping, thank goodness, but I did wondering if this would be my die-off? The other possibility is that I am reacting to the dairy I had today -- raw milk kefir. Goodness, I hope not.

I have been taking epsom salt baths and I am now thinking I should get pascelite clay to help sop up toxins. I now also have glutamine and EPO and more SA. Any other ideas?
What about enzymes?

I've finally found supplements that are free of our allergies, so as soon as a few more arrive in the mail, we'll be doing vit C + quercetin, broad spectrum enyzme, acidophilus/bifidus, high vitamin CLO, flaxseed oil and glutamine.

About your face rash, how often do you have dairy products? Have you noticed any ill effects from dairy before?
post #203 of 390
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Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache View Post
About your face rash, how often do you have dairy products? Have you noticed any ill effects from dairy before?
I haven't had any dairy since starting the detox diet, which is now a week. I didn't really have any ill effect before that I specifically knew of, but I have wondered if my incessant nose blowing all my life is related to dairy.
post #204 of 390
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I haven't had any dairy since starting the detox diet, which is now a week. I didn't really have any ill effect before that I specifically knew of, but I have wondered if my incessant nose blowing all my life is related to dairy.
When I went off dairy over a year ago, I was amazed at how my congestion cleared up. I'd lived with the phlegm so long, I thought it was normal.
post #205 of 390
I've pm'd both JaneS and firefaery about this. JaneS suggested I post here

I don't know if you've stumbled upon threads explaining our situation, but we are at the point where we're not sure what to do anymore. Dh desperately wants to put dd on a hypoallergenic formula so that I can eat again. I am going to include as much information as possible in my explanation about what's been going on. I'm wondering about Leaky Gut issues in myself, but don't know how to find out if that's exactly what's going on. There is so much information out there that it's overwhelming, and with a high-needs baby who can never be put down (I can't even sit down with her...she needs to be walked around CONSTANTLY!) I can't do too much researching at once. Basically, if you could let me know your opinions on all of this, that would be helpful. I'm going to include as much information about myself as I can, incase it makes a difference:

Let's start back to when I was a teenager...I had moderate acne and was put on antibiotics for about 2 years. They didn't help. Then I developed depression and an eating disorder and was hospitalized for anorexia for a year. I'm since fully recovered, but pretty much starved myself and ate crap (all fat free, low cal food) for about 5 years. After that, I started eating a vegetarian (mostly vegan) diet. Dairy began bothering me, so I didn't eat it anymore, was never a fan of meat, didn't eat eggs, so I was pretty much vegan for a couple of years. After starting to eat healthy foods and really loving the whole food diet I was on, my body seemed to thrive. I also started acupuncture to treat my depression and insomnia. I rarely got sick, looked great, felt good and had lots of energy, but had horrible migraines. During this time I was on birth control for a year before TTC dd. Then I get pregnant (was off the pill for 4 months) and my health deteriorates. After I stopped the pill, I started getting acne again, but it was mild. Once pregnant, the acne was HORRIBLE. Big welts all over my face, back, chest, upper arms...it was insane! It is still bad, although gone from my upper arms and chest. Around the 5th month, the eczema started on my hands and progressively got worse. My midwife (also a ND) suggested I be tested for allergies. (IgG) A bunch of things came back as positive, although cow's milk was the only really bad one. I was supposed to do a rotation diet, but didn't get any explanation or help with that and didn't know anything about it, so I just eliminated everything it said to: wheat/gluten/soy/dairy/yeast and certain fruits and spices. It was hard. I wasn't eating much and was probably lacking nutrients in many areas. This was most likely a big mistake while pregnant...I now realize that. Well, the acne got slightly better, but the eczema continued getting worse and worse. It eventually got to the point where I would wake up at night itching and have it bleeding by morning. I wouldn't be able to sleep because the itching was so intense, so I would lay awake and cry
So dd was born in September. She is high-needs and very fussy, but she would also have these bouts of screaming like she was in incredible pain. She has had horrible mucousy poops/runny/STINKY, etc. No visible skin rashes except the cradle cap. She has horrible gas, especially at night which keeps us up for about 4-5 hours at a time. She doesn't nap (20 minutes about 3 times a day...that is it!) Wakes up every 45 minutes to an hour to eat at night. We met with a kinesiologist who said dd was extremely sensitive and couldn't tolerate many things in my diet (keep in mind I was still on the restricted diet!). So I was down to organic chicken, carrots, kale, sunflower seed butter, basmati rice, yukon gold potatoes and peas. That's it. For 4 months I have been eating that. She is getting worse too. I stopped eating the chicken that was okay with her, and she slept great two nights in a row. I am so limited on protein options right now. I had salmon the past two nights and she was okay with that, but I don't want to eat salmon every night as she will grow intolerant to that too.
I had some blood tests done to see how my body was coping and turns out my liver is actually starting to produce fat for my body. My cholesterol was way too low as well. Surprisingly, my iron was okay.
My eczema is getting worse and worse and spreading down my hands. They have me on cod liver oil, a digestive enzyme, EPA and DHA and probiotics. I have been on probiotics for about 3 years now, BTW. Dd is now taking a neonate probiotic too.

So, seeing as how I have not slept more than 4 hours a night total since her birth, the days are horrible, and she is steadily getting worse and growing intolerant to the little variety in my diet, I have no clue what to do. I don't want to go to formula...I feel that will be bad for us both. But my hair is falling out in clumps, I am weak, tired and hungry. I don't know what else to do. I am starving and losing weight rapidly. I get barely 1,000 calories a day. FYI: CO gives her reflux. My only fat is olive oil, but I over do that everyday so I wonder if she's now reacting to that too :

I've read about the SCD and such, but how can I eat foods she reacts to? I don't know what to do!

If any of you have suggestions or advice, please share! We are at the end of our ropes and I fear that either dd or I will suffer greatly from what we are doing now.

I've looked at the cheat sheat, but there is just so much information and our situation seems to be kind of unqiue (can't do a rotation diet, etc.) that I don't know what to do or where to start.
post #206 of 390
Thread Starter 
mum2be--the first thing that popped into my head when I read your story was "rotation diet". It sounds to me like your situation is similar to that of JaneS's DS, who reacted to everything. You could eliminate her major allergens and then come up with a 7 day rotation plan for everything else. That will allow you to eat a wider variety of foods and get more nutrients which will help both of you. I would also recommend really focusing on high-nutrient foods like meats, bone broth, eggs (assuming they're not a major allergen), homemade goat or sheep's milk yogurt if possible, and coconut milk and coconut oil. You could also try herbal infusions that are high in nutrients like nettle, red raspberry leaf, red clover, and alfalfa.

What probiotics are you two taking and what are the doses (how many billion CFU's)?
post #207 of 390
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Originally Posted by mum2be View Post
I've pm'd both JaneS and firefaery about this. JaneS suggested I post here

I don't know if you've stumbled upon threads explaining our situation, but we are at the point where we're not sure what to do anymore. Dh desperately wants to put dd on a hypoallergenic formula so that I can eat again. I am going to include as much information as possible in my explanation about what's been going on. I'm wondering about Leaky Gut issues in myself, but don't know how to find out if that's exactly what's going on. There is so much information out there that it's overwhelming, and with a high-needs baby who can never be put down (I can't even sit down with her...she needs to be walked around CONSTANTLY!) I can't do too much researching at once. Basically, if you could let me know your opinions on all of this, that would be helpful. I'm going to include as much information about myself as I can, incase it makes a difference:

Let's start back to when I was a teenager...I had moderate acne and was put on antibiotics for about 2 years. They didn't help. Then I developed depression and an eating disorder and was hospitalized for anorexia for a year. I'm since fully recovered, but pretty much starved myself and ate crap (all fat free, low cal food) for about 5 years. After that, I started eating a vegetarian (mostly vegan) diet. Dairy began bothering me, so I didn't eat it anymore, was never a fan of meat, didn't eat eggs, so I was pretty much vegan for a couple of years. After starting to eat healthy foods and really loving the whole food diet I was on, my body seemed to thrive. I also started acupuncture to treat my depression and insomnia. I rarely got sick, looked great, felt good and had lots of energy, but had horrible migraines. During this time I was on birth control for a year before TTC dd. Then I get pregnant (was off the pill for 4 months) and my health deteriorates. After I stopped the pill, I started getting acne again, but it was mild. Once pregnant, the acne was HORRIBLE. Big welts all over my face, back, chest, upper arms...it was insane! It is still bad, although gone from my upper arms and chest. Around the 5th month, the eczema started on my hands and progressively got worse. My midwife (also a ND) suggested I be tested for allergies. (IgG) A bunch of things came back as positive, although cow's milk was the only really bad one. I was supposed to do a rotation diet, but didn't get any explanation or help with that and didn't know anything about it, so I just eliminated everything it said to: wheat/gluten/soy/dairy/yeast and certain fruits and spices. It was hard. I wasn't eating much and was probably lacking nutrients in many areas. This was most likely a big mistake while pregnant...I now realize that. Well, the acne got slightly better, but the eczema continued getting worse and worse. It eventually got to the point where I would wake up at night itching and have it bleeding by morning. I wouldn't be able to sleep because the itching was so intense, so I would lay awake and cry
So dd was born in September. She is high-needs and very fussy, but she would also have these bouts of screaming like she was in incredible pain. She has had horrible mucousy poops/runny/STINKY, etc. No visible skin rashes except the cradle cap. She has horrible gas, especially at night which keeps us up for about 4-5 hours at a time. She doesn't nap (20 minutes about 3 times a day...that is it!) Wakes up every 45 minutes to an hour to eat at night. We met with a kinesiologist who said dd was extremely sensitive and couldn't tolerate many things in my diet (keep in mind I was still on the restricted diet!). So I was down to organic chicken, carrots, kale, sunflower seed butter, basmati rice, yukon gold potatoes and peas. That's it. For 4 months I have been eating that. She is getting worse too. I stopped eating the chicken that was okay with her, and she slept great two nights in a row. I am so limited on protein options right now. I had salmon the past two nights and she was okay with that, but I don't want to eat salmon every night as she will grow intolerant to that too.
I had some blood tests done to see how my body was coping and turns out my liver is actually starting to produce fat for my body. My cholesterol was way too low as well. Surprisingly, my iron was okay.
My eczema is getting worse and worse and spreading down my hands. They have me on cod liver oil, a digestive enzyme, EPA and DHA and probiotics. I have been on probiotics for about 3 years now, BTW. Dd is now taking a neonate probiotic too.

So, seeing as how I have not slept more than 4 hours a night total since her birth, the days are horrible, and she is steadily getting worse and growing intolerant to the little variety in my diet, I have no clue what to do. I don't want to go to formula...I feel that will be bad for us both. But my hair is falling out in clumps, I am weak, tired and hungry. I don't know what else to do. I am starving and losing weight rapidly. I get barely 1,000 calories a day. FYI: CO gives her reflux. My only fat is olive oil, but I over do that everyday so I wonder if she's now reacting to that too :

I've read about the SCD and such, but how can I eat foods she reacts to? I don't know what to do!

If any of you have suggestions or advice, please share! We are at the end of our ropes and I fear that either dd or I will suffer greatly from what we are doing now.

I've looked at the cheat sheat, but there is just so much information and our situation seems to be kind of unqiue (can't do a rotation diet, etc.) that I don't know what to do or where to start.
first of all, hugs to you. It sounds like things are really, really tough. I think the hardest part about all of this is that every person/child is unique, and all the research is really hard to fit in with a child needing constant attention.

Have you heard about the special foods rotation diet? You can read about it here:
http://www.specialfoods.com/rotationdiet.html

I had someone suggest it to me from these boards. I haven't actually done it yet - our case is not as severe as yours and I am trying a few other regimens first, but reading your story reminded me of it. I do think that we can create issues by just eating the same things (my dd was fine with cinnamon, and then it turned into a problem because I ate it all the time - it was the only flavor she could tolerate, so I overdid it), which makes it even harder because then you start chasing a moving ball.

My husband was pushing the hypoallergenic formula, too, until I really figured out how much it would cost (our insurance won't pay for it even with a dr. rx). And once I shared that with him, he became so much more supportive and hasn't said another word about how much I spend on supplements or time I spend researching!

Good luck!
post #208 of 390
Thanks for the support

I guess what I would like to know is, how do I know that I am dealing with leaky gut for sure?

And...

If I am, and it's ME that's causing dd's problems, would she be better off on a formula?

See, I am all for BF'ing and know that it would be very hard to give it up, but if I keep damaging her gut by eating things that she can't tolerate, how on earth is she going to start to heal?

I am taking pharmax HLC high potency powder. There are 8 billion viable cells in 1 gram, and I take 3-1/4 teaspoons a day now. She takes the same brand of the neonate with 1 billion viable cells. I dip my pinky in it and stick it in her mouth about 3 times a day.

Also, I am taking L-Glutamine and just started the L. Reuteri today after all those studies came out about colic, etc.
post #209 of 390
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Originally Posted by mum2be View Post
Thanks for the support

I guess what I would like to know is, how do I know that I am dealing with leaky gut for sure?

And...

If I am, and it's ME that's causing dd's problems, would she be better off on a formula?

See, I am all for BF'ing and know that it would be very hard to give it up, but if I keep damaging her gut by eating things that she can't tolerate, how on earth is she going to start to heal?

I am taking pharmax HLC high potency powder. There are 8 billion viable cells in 1 gram, and I take 3-1/4 teaspoons a day now. She takes the same brand of the neonate with 1 billion viable cells. I dip my pinky in it and stick it in her mouth about 3 times a day.

Also, I am taking L-Glutamine and just started the L. Reuteri today after all those studies came out about colic, etc.
There really isn't any way that I'm aware of to be sure, scientifically speaking, that you are dealing with leaky gut. Basically it works like this: if your gut is working properly the foods you eat will be properly broken down into their respective components and your BM will reflect that. If your gut is not working properly and is "leaky", the foods you eat don't get broken down properly and food proteins make their way into places they shouldn't be, like your bloodstream and BM. Because your DD's body isn't designed to handle BM like this, she reacts.

IMO your DD will not be better off on formula. The kids of people on this board who weaned have been worse off after weaning, no matter how poorly the child was doing while nursing. Your DD may very well react to formula, too, and then where would you be? The trick is to find a diet for you that will not keep aggravating her immune system, either by eating unusual foods that she doesn't react to or by rotating foods so that her system isn't constantly bombarded by the same foods over and over.

You may want to look at getting probiotics from www.customprobiotics.com They will probably be cheaper and much stronger than what you are taking now--1 gram of the one my DD is on contains 260 billion CFU's. How old is your DD? She should probably be getting a probiotic that only contains bifidus infantis and I know the pharmax neonate contains other strains.
She probably also needs way more probiotics than she is getting right now. My DD is getting 100 billion CFU's a day at this point.
post #210 of 390
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Originally Posted by mum2be View Post
Thanks for the support

I guess what I would like to know is, how do I know that I am dealing with leaky gut for sure?
there is a test that you can do through genova diagnostics... costs about $65.
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And...

If I am, and it's ME that's causing dd's problems, would she be better off on a formula?
no.
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See, I am all for BF'ing and know that it would be very hard to give it up, but if I keep damaging her gut by eating things that she can't tolerate, how on earth is she going to start to heal?
breastmilk contains good things too which surpass the bad things.
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I am taking pharmax HLC high potency powder. There are 8 billion viable cells in 1 gram, and I take 3-1/4 teaspoons a day now. She takes the same brand of the neonate with 1 billion viable cells. I dip my pinky in it and stick it in her mouth about 3 times a day.

Also, I am taking L-Glutamine and just started the L. Reuteri today after all those studies came out about colic, etc.
ah. i would also add evening primrose oil... probably at least 3g per day. perhaps MSM (organic sulfur) to help strengthen connective tissue.
post #211 of 390
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Originally Posted by caedmyn View Post

You may want to look at getting probiotics from www.customprobiotics.com They will probably be cheaper and much stronger than what you are taking now--1 gram of the one my DD is on contains 260 billion CFU's. How old is your DD? She should probably be getting a probiotic that only contains bifidus infantis and I know the pharmax neonate contains other strains.
She probably also needs way more probiotics than she is getting right now. My DD is getting 100 billion CFU's a day at this point.
She's 4 mo. How would i get that much into her? She won't take a bottle.
post #212 of 390
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there is a test that you can do through genova diagnostics... costs about $65.
I see two tests on their site. Which one is it? They're done by stool samples, correct? Would it be helpful to get dd tested too?
post #213 of 390
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She's 4 mo. How would i get that much into her? She won't take a bottle.
She can suck it off your finger. It's only a tiny amount--you start with one baby scoop (1/10th of a gram) and work your way up to however much you think you need. It would probably take 2 or maybe 3 "finger dips" to get all of a baby scoop into her mouth.
post #214 of 390

Rotation Diet

Can we talk about rotation diets? I'd like to start one to preserve dd's tolerance to her safe foods and give her a chance to tolerate some of the iffy ones, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about it. I've done some reading online and got a few ideas. Here's the idea so far. Tell me what you think:

Day 1: Rice, green beans/yam, peach, pork, palm oil
Day 2: Wheat, squash/onion, apple/tomato, chicken, canola oil
Day 3: White potato, spinach/mushrooms, blueberry, beef, olive oil
Day 4: Oats, peppers/peas, pear, turkey, coconut oil
Day 5: Quinoa, carrots/garlic, banana/grapes, eggs, sunflower/safflower oil

It's a five day rotation. One concern I have is how to incorporate legumes. Since they're related, I'm guessing I shouldn't do a different one daily, but what about twice a week? Also, is it worth it to rotate things like herbs and spices (or even garlic and onion)? I'm also thinking that rotating vegetables needn't be so strict since there's a lot of variety to be had in general. I'm especially interested in helping dd tolerate a wider variety of fruits and not lose her tolerance of grains.
post #215 of 390
Hi all! I suspect my DS has a leaky gut. I've read the cheat sheet sticky, but its like reading French! Here's our deal

DS had horrendous cradle cap as a newborn, down his forehead and oozing. Ick! After that healed, he quickly dev'p eczema. I breifly tried an elimination diet, but his eczema got worse so I stopped. Finally when he was 10 months I insisted on allergy testing for dairy. Turns out he is allergic. I then insisted on a referral to an allergist.

Allergist tests show an allergy to dairy, egg, tomato, and strawberry. Since we have eliminated these, I've also discovered a allergy to watermelon (probably all melons) and possibly avocado. It seems like we get a new allergy every other week. Now I fear he may have one to potatos. I'm at my wits end with this.

This past week, I started dosing him with 1 tsp of a multi probotic (dairy free) and 1tsp of flax seed oil at lunch. I take 1000 mg of EPO and 1200 mg of fish oil daily. He is bf but also gets three meals a day.

DS eats freeze dried fruit and corn, rices, frozen veggies, french fries (bad momma, but may be cut out soon), chicken, sometimes beef (doesn't seem to care much for it), cheerios, oyster crackers (sometimes for a snack). I don't think he gets anything else with regularity. I make sure he doesn't ingest (nor do I) anything with his allergen in it, but if there is a cross contamination possibility, I may eat it, but he won't.

I'm not sure what else to do to help. I'm planning on continuing the probiotic/flax oil for 3 months straight, as I think I read that in the mothering link. Maybe I'm supposed to be giving it at a different time or throughout the day instead of all at once?

I don't know what else to do or if I'm even healing his gut, so I'd appreciate some suggestions. Oh, and I do have coconut oil in the house, but the thought of ingesting straight fat on a spoon about gags me. DS might like it though. Could someone break down some suggestions in layman's terms on what I should be doing or am doing wrong to heal DS's gut?
post #216 of 390
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Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache View Post
Can we talk about rotation diets? I'd like to start one to preserve dd's tolerance to her safe foods and give her a chance to tolerate some of the iffy ones, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about it. I've done some reading online and got a few ideas. Here's the idea so far. Tell me what you think:

Day 1: Rice, green beans/yam, peach, pork, palm oil
Day 2: Wheat, squash/onion, apple/tomato, chicken, canola oil
Day 3: White potato, spinach/mushrooms, blueberry, beef, olive oil
Day 4: Oats, peppers/peas, pear, turkey, coconut oil
Day 5: Quinoa, carrots/garlic, banana/grapes, eggs, sunflower/safflower oil

It's a five day rotation. One concern I have is how to incorporate legumes. Since they're related, I'm guessing I shouldn't do a different one daily, but what about twice a week? Also, is it worth it to rotate things like herbs and spices (or even garlic and onion)? I'm also thinking that rotating vegetables needn't be so strict since there's a lot of variety to be had in general. I'm especially interested in helping dd tolerate a wider variety of fruits and not lose her tolerance of grains.
I would rotate garlic b/c it's a pretty common allergen. You might consider whether you need to rotate food families and only eat the family once every 4/5 days. For instance, garlic and onion are in the same food family.
post #217 of 390
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Originally Posted by mum2be View Post
I see two tests on their site. Which one is it? They're done by stool samples, correct? Would it be helpful to get dd tested too?
Its a lactulose/mannitol test, where you drink something with both of these in it and then do a urine sample. What's in your urine tells them whether your gut is hyerpermeable.
post #218 of 390
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Originally Posted by Caden's Mom View Post
Hi all! I suspect my DS has a leaky gut. I've read the cheat sheet sticky, but its like reading French! Here's our deal

DS had horrendous cradle cap as a newborn, down his forehead and oozing. Ick! After that healed, he quickly dev'p eczema. I breifly tried an elimination diet, but his eczema got worse so I stopped. Finally when he was 10 months I insisted on allergy testing for dairy. Turns out he is allergic. I then insisted on a referral to an allergist.

Allergist tests show an allergy to dairy, egg, tomato, and strawberry. Since we have eliminated these, I've also discovered a allergy to watermelon (probably all melons) and possibly avocado. It seems like we get a new allergy every other week. Now I fear he may have one to potatos. I'm at my wits end with this.

This past week, I started dosing him with 1 tsp of a multi probotic (dairy free) and 1tsp of flax seed oil at lunch. I take 1000 mg of EPO and 1200 mg of fish oil daily. He is bf but also gets three meals a day.

DS eats freeze dried fruit and corn, rices, frozen veggies, french fries (bad momma, but may be cut out soon), chicken, sometimes beef (doesn't seem to care much for it), cheerios, oyster crackers (sometimes for a snack). I don't think he gets anything else with regularity. I make sure he doesn't ingest (nor do I) anything with his allergen in it, but if there is a cross contamination possibility, I may eat it, but he won't.

I'm not sure what else to do to help. I'm planning on continuing the probiotic/flax oil for 3 months straight, as I think I read that in the mothering link. Maybe I'm supposed to be giving it at a different time or throughout the day instead of all at once?

I don't know what else to do or if I'm even healing his gut, so I'd appreciate some suggestions. Oh, and I do have coconut oil in the house, but the thought of ingesting straight fat on a spoon about gags me. DS might like it though. Could someone break down some suggestions in layman's terms on what I should be doing or am doing wrong to heal DS's gut?
Don't have much time now, but for starters I would cut all grains out of his diet. They're hard to digest in general and babies don't produce the enzyme they need to digest them until they're at least a year old. Also, you might think about giving your DS high vitamin CLO directly, and also CO directly (my DD will eat it off a spoon). You can substitute CO for any other fat in cooking or baking--it's very versatile.
post #219 of 390
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Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache View Post
Can we talk about rotation diets? I'd like to start one to preserve dd's tolerance to her safe foods and give her a chance to tolerate some of the iffy ones, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about it. I've done some reading online and got a few ideas. Here's the idea so far. Tell me what you think:

Day 1: Rice, green beans/yam, peach, pork, palm oil
Day 2: Wheat, squash/onion, apple/tomato, chicken, canola oil
Day 3: White potato, spinach/mushrooms, blueberry, beef, olive oil
Day 4: Oats, peppers/peas, pear, turkey, coconut oil
Day 5: Quinoa, carrots/garlic, banana/grapes, eggs, sunflower/safflower oil

It's a five day rotation. One concern I have is how to incorporate legumes. Since they're related, I'm guessing I shouldn't do a different one daily, but what about twice a week? Also, is it worth it to rotate things like herbs and spices (or even garlic and onion)? I'm also thinking that rotating vegetables needn't be so strict since there's a lot of variety to be had in general. I'm especially interested in helping dd tolerate a wider variety of fruits and not lose her tolerance of grains.
I am confused about rotation diets. I found one that said eat the same foods all day and then don't eat those foods for 5 days. Another place said to only eat the food once during the day and then not again for 5 days. This same site said that you can eat related foods(green beans/lentils) a day apart but not 2 days in a row.

Aside from that confusion, there are some foods I would stay away fromes, spinach(high in oxalates and amines), pork, wheat.
What about these foods to add: steamed celery, steamed chayote, brussel sprouts,rutabaga, parsnip, beans/lentils, buckwheat (I just tried Poconos brand and it is yummy and mild in flavor), lamb, veal, ghee.
post #220 of 390
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Originally Posted by mum2be View Post
She's 4 mo. How would i get that much into her? She won't take a bottle.
Sorry I didn't reply the other night...I have alot of catching up to do.
You can cup feed or dropper feed. I just mix the probiotics into breastmilk and cup feed ds. HE loves it! If that wasn't working though I'd be using a dropper (like a tincture bottle.)
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