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post #1 of 12
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Has anyone seein it? With Clive Owen? I really liked it on the whole - except that a woman gives birth (in a warzone) to the only new infant in 18 years and she doesn't breastfeed - she doesn't bottle feed either - obviously. But I was squirming in my seat wondering why she didn't put that babe to the breast.
There was even a scene where Clive Owen was helping her comfort the baby and he tells her to put the baby over her shoulder and pat her back.:

Man it drove me crazzzzy!
post #2 of 12
This is hilarious! I just saw this yesterday, and was thinking the SAME THING! I mean, they were trying to hide the baby- What is easier than bf-ing? I also told my dh that if they gave that kid a bottle- I was going to say very LOUDLY- "Bull S&*%" and walk out. But I didn't have to. I almost walked out because of how intense it was- I seem to have trouble with movies of a certain nature since becoming a mama. But in the end- I kind of thought maybe she was burping the baby- so she must of bf-ed it. That's how I made it in my sunshine and rainbows mind. I needed something good to come out of that movie.

How funny.
post #3 of 12
Can you guys put *spoiler* in the title for those of us who haven't seen this, and didn't know if she made it to having the baby?
post #4 of 12
I'm so sorry!!!
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I'm so sorry!!!
It's okay, I just won't tell my husband. He's dying to see it.
post #6 of 12
Funny! I thought the same thing, too! I never told DH what I was thinking, and on the way home he was saying that it was a good movie, but he would have done a few things differently (he's a film/video major). One of the things he said he would have done is shown the mom bfing. He said it was driving him CRAZY waiting for her to bf, and then she never did. He's a lactivist. He just doesn't know it yet.

Shannon
post #7 of 12
If you haven't seen the movie then don't read the post. I was okay with her not breastfeeding because the whole premise in the movie was that women weren't able to have babies for 18+ years so the knowledge of how to care for a baby wasn't known to the young mother. She knew nothing about caring for babies, including breastfeeding. It kinda reminded me of Blue Lagoon with Brooke Shields, who didn't have the knowledge to breastfeed.
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If you haven't seen the movie then don't read the post. I was okay with her not breastfeeding because the whole premise in the movie was that women weren't able to have babies for 18+ years so the knowledge of how to care for a baby wasn't known to the young mother. She knew nothing about caring for babies, including breastfeeding. It kinda reminded me of Blue Lagoon with Brooke Shields, who didn't have the knowledge to breastfeed.
Spoilers ahead...

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I would kind of buy that except that her travelling companion was a midwife and Clive Owen was also a father. Sure, it had been 18 years for the both of them, but you still think they could have given the young woman a few words of advice on breastfeeding. I didn't expect either of them to be IBCLCs but they could have at least said "Your baby's hungry."

Especially given the world that they were living in---pandemic diseases, unclean water, refugee camps---breastfeeding would have been essential for her little one.

OT for lactivism, but the other thing that bugged me was that the pregnant woman was laboring on her back as if that was somehow the natural position that a woman would assume who was about to give birth rather than a product of a century of medicalized births.

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I have this experience a lot with movies about childbirth and breastfeeding. [Anyone else have all these thoughts about nipple confusion when you saw Tsotsi?] But eventually you realize that directors and screenwriters don't even think to research this stuff. They just recreate other images from movies to evoke our cultural scripts for "woman in labor" or "newborn baby" and those cultural scripts have only a vague relationship to the real world experiences.

But for cosleeping and no bottles!
post #9 of 12
Yeah, Dh had to tell me to shhh cause I was getting so upset "Give the baby the boob for God sake"!!, "sure we can watch people getting shot and killed, but god forbid we see a baby breastfeeding"!!!
post #10 of 12
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the knowledge of how to care for a baby wasn't known to the young mother.
I don't buy this. First, as a pp pointed out, there were people there who had seen babies before. Second, if I was the first pregnant woman in 18 years, I'd want to know how to take care of one. I'm sure I would have asked, before giving birth, "So what will the baby eat?" Third, were there no other mammals in the world? I didn't see it, so just wondering. Finally, if you just let the babe do what it wants, it finds the darn boob most of the time. Especially after a NCB. So I agree that not BF the babe sounds pretty odd.

But nowadays any childbirth on TV, in movies, or often in books or even news articles just drives me batty because it's so "off."

Julia
dd almost 10 mos
post #11 of 12
DH gave me a copy of The Children of Men for Christmas. I had seen the movie trailer and commented that I would like to read the book - but it is out of print in the states so he got a Canadian copy from Amazon and wrapped it with movie passes for me! (2 cheers for DH and the totally thoughtful gift!)

Anyway, there is a description of the baby BFing in the book. I hope I am not violating anything by quoting P.D. James here. So if I am, oops I will delete it...


"The baby needed no encouragement to suck. He was a lively child, opening on Theo his bright unfocused eyes, waving his starfish hands, butting his head against his mother's breast, the small open mouth voraciously seeking the nipple. It was extraordinary that anything so new could be so vigorous. He sucked and slept."

So if there is no show of BFing in the movie it is not because it was left out of the book. Personally I think showing her nursing would show a return to the basics of childbirth and care after a hiatus in the cycle of human life. Sort of a way of showing how, even with none of the supposed necessities of having a baby that there are now, it is still possible to have a thriving baby. KWIM?

And it was a pretty good book, made all the better by DH's thoughtfulness. Haven't made it out to see the movie since we can't seem to get out without the kiddos...
post #12 of 12

Spoilers!

i get that they hadn't seen a baby in 18 years- and Chi (or however you spell her name) even said that she hadn't ever seen a pregnant mom, but when she revealed that she was pregnant to Theo, she was in a cow barn with milking cows. She even made a comment about how they got the milk. I think she had at least an inkling.
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