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post #141 of 144
Moonfirefaery, after reading your last post I realize that we misunderstood each other drastically!!! When I said that oral herpes can infect someone else with genital herpes, I didn't mean by kissing on the lips; I meant by kissing on the genitals. When I said that oral herpes can cause blindness, I didn't mean by kissing on the lips; I meant by getting secretions from a herpes blister (one's own or someone else's) into the eye, for instance by touching one's mouth and then touching one's eye, which is something little kids do pretty often.

And I thought you were claiming that HSV-1 never, ever causes genital herpes. Reading your posts again, I still think that's what you were saying. But I must have misunderstood because you seem to be acknowledging that fact now.

And there is nothing in the three quotes you posted that I think should be "set straight".

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My own experiences, doctors advice, and research that has been ongoing for probably a LOT longer than you've been doing research
You mentioned several times that you've been infected for 13 years. Well, I am older than you are, and it was 13 years ago that I had a boyfriend with genital herpes and did a lot of research to find out what I was risking if I had sex with him. I was the kind of kid who read any and all information about sex that I could find, so it's been about 25 years since I first read that both herpes viruses can cause oral or genital outbreaks.

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I was picked on because someone decided to spread a rumor that I had the STD oral herpes caused by HSV-2 and must have contracted it by being a 12-year-old slut.
I think that alone could explain why you are so eager to prove that HSV-1 is healthy and normal while HSV-2 is the cause of all herpes problems. If I'd had that experience, I might feel the same way. I'm sorry you had such a rough time. If I had been in your class, I would've told everyone that oral herpes is spread in many non-sexual ways and therefore it didn't mean anything about your behavior. And I probably would've gotten picked on for being a know-it-all instead of a "fun" person who spreads gossip unquestioningly, but whatever.

Edited to add: This thread has not changed my mind about whether I want to get herpes, but it HAS made me realize that my stance on kissing is inconsistent with my stance on sharing food and beverage. I'm very casual about sharing, even though that's how I got mono when I was 18. I still think it's nice to save lip-kissing for a few very special people, and I still don't feel that it's something to share with my child, but avoiding it as a means of avoiding disease is not all that great a precaution. Most illnesses that spread by saliva have a slightly better chance when the saliva is transferred directly rather than on an inanimate object, but it's not that big a difference.
post #142 of 144
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it's been about 25 years since I first read that both herpes viruses can cause oral or genital outbreaks.
That's interesting considering that was only recently acknowledged widely by the medical community Moreover, the oral lesions caused by HSV-2 are usually quite different and less mild than those caused by HSV-1. Regardless of how long you have been studying and reading, living with it, being treated for it, knowing others who have it, is quite a bit different. Would you tell a Cancer patient you know more about their Cancer than them because you've been reading for many years?

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I think that alone could explain why you are so eager to prove that HSV-1 is healthy and normal while HSV-2 is the cause of all herpes problems
No, being accused of exposing my child to an infectious, dangerous disease that could cause him to go blind or have genital herpes (when it can't) is the reason why I am eager to prove that HSV-1 is not as severe as HSV-2, is not an STD, and will not do my child any harm from him kissing me on the lips. You made certain if your first few posts to tell me all about blindness and genital herpes, as if that has anything to do with the subject of lip-kissing.

I was teased for having a father that was in the Navy, for liking Mickey Mouse in 5th grade, for becoming a witch in middle school, and for various other reasons. Someone spread a rumor about me in high school that I performed oral sex on someone else's boyfriend. A rumor is just a rumor. I could really care a less about one cause of teasing than any other. Please don't assume that you know something about me.

I'm not particularly too worried because I plan to teach my son better than to be physically intimate when he's ill and to practice safe sex. Not to mention the fact that HSV-1 rarely causes recurrent genital herpes, only a single outbreak that disappears and then returns later as coldsores. So again if you don't want to kiss your child, don't, but don't act as if those of us who do and get coldsores are infecting them with a deadly STD.
post #143 of 144
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Originally Posted by Pyratekk View Post
Okay, my fiancee and I are having a bit of an argument (or rather a very heated discussion) about parents who kiss their children on the lips. So I told him I would post here about it and we'd see what kind of results we get.

`So how many of you kiss your children on the lips?
`For those of you who do, when did you start and would you ever feel that they were too old for this and stop?
`For those who don't, any real reason why not?


Thanks in advance for your responses!!
My DS is 14 months. I do kiss him on the lips and I get in my kisses whenever I can
That said, I will continue kissing him on the lips until he makes it known that he is not comfortable with it any longer.
post #144 of 144
We do, since birth. Never really even considered not doing it. It was just natural for us to do it, more so me than DH. I still kiss my parents on the lips.
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