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post #81 of 134
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I don't like fast food. We eat out more than we should, but it's usually at local restaurants or Steak n Shake.
Steak n Shake is fast food. They have a drive-thru.

I am fully aware of how crappy McDonald's and other fast food restaurants are. We still eat at them on occasion. I keep craving Big Macs, but I'm trying to overcome it because I get sick every time I eat one.
post #82 of 134
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Originally Posted by wytchywoman View Post
For all the people who posted here about how disgusting McD's is, is there any particular reason why you did so? The OP was just letting people know that there is a viable option at this restaurant that other people might not know about. Criticizing her and others for taking their kids to McD's is not necessary. If you don't like the restaurant and refuse to eat there, fine, but don't be judgemental about it, KWIM? We all do the absolute best that we can with our kids, and no one on this forum is prefect.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, this IS a Natural Family Living board, which I believe would include promotion of healthy eating and avoiding processed and fast food. I consider someone posting about an option at Macdonalds on this board to be about as appropriate as posting that, "by the way, infant formula is on sale at Walmart!" Worse perhaps, since some mothers actually do need to give their infants formula.
post #83 of 134
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Originally Posted by Shenjall View Post
That being said, we dont do chain fast food anymore. We go for the corner, mom 'n pop burger joints instead. Tastes sooo much better and you dont get that sick sick feeling afterward. And we like supporting the smaller guy.
hm, I don't know if I agree with the mom 'n pop burger joints being "better" than the chain fast food.

I mean, a burger is a burger right cooked in grease right?
post #84 of 134
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Originally Posted by newmommy View Post
hm, I don't know if I agree with the mom 'n pop burger joints being "better" than the chain fast food.

I mean, a burger is a burger right cooked in grease right?
No. At Macdonalds, the beef in the patty are the cheapest parts (the uterus for example) and very high in fat (the highest percent possible without losing their right to call it "beef"), and have been processed and frozen. And you are eating meat that comes from about 50 different cows instead of just one cow. Ick! This is less less likely at the Mom and pop shop, which would not have the resources to process that much meat.

We make hamburgers at home all the time. I use 5% fat ground beef purchased at the local butcher, whole wheat buns, tomatoes, ketchup, cheese. Ummm, all this thinking about hamburgers is making me hungry.
post #85 of 134
Our local place uses local potatoes which they peel and fry when you order and have great burgers with real stuff. For fast food we go to Subway where we can go heavy on the veggies adding cukes and green pepper. I don't usually add lettuce and tomato because they look so anemic but there are shredded carrots, black olives and other tasty stuff and you can choose a whole grain bread and what kind of sauce you want.
post #86 of 134
I don't eat at McDonald's because I'm a vegetarian, and they don't really have anything I want to eat, (except for those ice cream cones, which, I am sure are mostly clay, transfat and petroleum products, but are a big ice cream cone for less than 150 calories) but I do hit Taco Bell and Subway in a poorly planned pinch from time to time. I can try to keep snacks in the car, but the day does come when I reach for a piece of organic fruit leather or a package of crackers and realize that I forgot to restock after my last crisis. (Much akin to the other day, when I had to buy disposable diaper wipes because I had left the container of wet washcloths on the kitchen counter)

We've had fast food twice this week: Taco Bell on Tuesday because I wound up at the Mom's center about 2 hours longer than I expected, and then we got stuck in traffic on the way home, and it was 3:45, I still had to stop for groceries, and we had not had lunch, and Subway last night because both DH and I have a nasty cold and neither of us could face cooking or cleaning.

Despite the sociopolitcal problems with chain restaurants, I tend to prefer them because I do Weight Watchers, and can get the "Points" values for food from a chain. I also can check ingredients lists for a whole chain for meat derivatives, andnot have to ask every time. When I'm in my home territory, I have the time and luxury to go on menu patrol and learn the local choices, but if I'm in an unfamiliar territory, I like to know that my bean taco has no lard and will cost me 3 points, and that my ice-blended mocha with no whipped cream is 2 points.

As far as the 560 calorie big mac is concerned, that is a caloric bargain compared to the 1800 calorie Chipotle burritos, which are free range pork, etc, etc. Even their vegetarian burritos are well over a thousand calories.

There are a couple of places in the Menocino/Humboldt area that I saw a few years ago when we were camping up there that advertised healthy, organic food in a drive thru (and yes I know, drive thru=bad, but I don't want to haul my napping toddler out of her carseat in order to go inside), we tried one, and it was good, but very $$$$.
post #87 of 134
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Originally Posted by catnip View Post
I do Weight Watchers, and can get the "Points" values for food from a chain.
I have a co worker who is on the Point System from Weight Watchers and she is a total stickler to her points. She carries her WW Point book around so that everything she wants to eat, she looks it up to make sure she is in her "Point Range"

Yesterday, she went to Burger King (had her book) and ordered a Whopper, ate it and was horrified to learn she had reached her maximum point value for the day (25 Points...the Whopper was 26 Points )
post #88 of 134
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Originally Posted by edamommy View Post
my personal moral shame is that my deceased father-in-law created the mcd's playground thing. So.... my dh's family reaps uber $$$$ from mc'd's and my MIL LOVES to tell me how mcdonald's will be "windfall" when she dies?!?!?!

I don't really understand why you feel that you should be ashamed for a 'moral failing' of sombody else, but if it helps...

Your FIL has provided many a warm, safe spot for children to play for free, to get away from the shelter, or a home where the power's been cut off. His 'invention' has helped me and my family get out of a stressful situation (visiting a relative wth a very child-unfriendly home) where the kids could just relax and have fun. When we've not had money to go somewhere else and it was too cold to go to the park, my kids have enjoyed getting out of the house for an hour or two and the company of the other kids who were there doing the same thing.

I'm sure it's just a moral failing on my part to use it, but...it's a moral failing I can live with. I hope you can manage to take some small comfort in that.
post #89 of 134
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Originally Posted by wife&mommy View Post
I bet you were really healthy though!

Maybe as a child, but then the college years hit.

I hated the way I grew up, there was such an exteeme perfection expectation. Everything I did had to measure up, and food was no different.

The end result, a 200+ lbs daughter who dropped out of college no less than five times before finally getting my degree, having two children out of wedlock, and not meeting ANY of my mother's expectations. Finally at age 37, it has been almost four years since I have had regular contact with my mom. (and my brother sneaks over to see us)

How healthy is that?
post #90 of 134
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Originally Posted by newmommy View Post
hm, I don't know if I agree with the mom 'n pop burger joints being "better" than the chain fast food.

I mean, a burger is a burger right cooked in grease right?

Well, going along with the "everything in moderation" argument, I dont see anything wrong with french fries and hamburgers from time to time. And like cmlp said, chain restaurants use some nasty stuff.
The two places we go to use local ground beef and local potatoes. Both use fresh meat to make a burger (as opposed to the frozen shipped from wherever patty) and use fresh cut potatoes instead of the frozen shipped from wherever fries. In fact, what these restaurants are making are really something close to what I could make at home. I certainly cant say that about mcD or burger king. Granted, it does cost more than the chain fast food, but I feel better about it.

When needing something quick to eat on the road, we've gone to a grocery store and picked up some buns and deli meat and make wee sandwiches in the car. I know deli meat isnt the best, but its a choice we make and are happy with.
post #91 of 134
It's not what you add to your diet that makes a real difference- it's what you leave out. You can eat all the fruits & veggies you like but as long as you still eat things like McDonalds you will be suceptible to sickness & disease.

Convienience is really not convienient at all.
post #92 of 134
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Originally Posted by sophmama View Post
I'm still waiting for someone to start a *drive through* fast food chain that offers 100% whole wheat, real meats, dark leaf lettuce/spinace, etc. Basically it would totally rock if someone would start a chain based on the stuff you can buy at Whole Foods. Us crunchy types get busy and need to grab something quick sometimes too you know. And a lot of people would come just because it's touted as "healthier".
That would be awesome!

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Originally Posted by 2Sweeties1Angel View Post
Steak n Shake is fast food. They have a drive-thru.
Hmm... so does an Amish restuarant I know of. Have you ever watched them make a burger? I've seen them take what looks like fresh or thawed patty of meat and grill it right there for all to see, then put it on a bun. It's not like what my dh has described seeing at the fast food restaurants in town (toss a pre-cooked patty into a microwave). It just seems like a step up from Burger King or McD's. Maybe I'm deluding myself... but we like to stop there for chili now and then.
post #93 of 134
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Originally Posted by cmlp View Post
Well, in case you haven't noticed, this IS a Natural Family Living board, which I believe would include promotion of healthy eating and avoiding processed and fast food. I consider someone posting about an option at Macdonalds on this board to be about as appropriate as posting that, "by the way, infant formula is on sale at Walmart!" Worse perhaps, since some mothers actually do need to give their infants formula.
I've noticed that this is a NFL forum and a lot of what I do, and other people do here is considered to be NFL. Like I said, everyone does the very best they can and no one is perfect. We are not engaged in a crunchy contest to see who is the best. I will go out on a limb and assume that everyone is here because there is info that benefits them in someway as a human and a parent. Sometimes some of us need to eat at McD's. Sometimes some of us need to buy formula at walmart. I came here to learn and receiving info is a huge blessing to me, being judged is not.

Namaste,

Michelle
post #94 of 134
Sigh...the mere mention of Steak and Shake in this thread has me dreaming of a steakburger. And those skinny little fries. And a chocolate malt. It may not be healthy but it's heartwarming.
I'm trying to get DH off the fast food which has in turn made me not go near it in my struggle to be a good role model-
I think it's a little bit funny how they have all these "healthy" choices now- It's almost as if now they can say, "sorry your heart quit, but we made many other choices available!"
post #95 of 134
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Originally Posted by edamommy View Post
my personal moral shame is that my deceased father-in-law created the mcd's playground thing. So.... my dh's family reaps uber $$$$ from mc'd's and my MIL LOVES to tell me how mcdonald's will be "windfall" when she dies?!?!?!

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Seriously? This is your moral shame?

You've led a charmed life.
post #96 of 134
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Originally Posted by wytchywoman View Post
I've noticed that this is a NFL forum and a lot of what I do, and other people do here is considered to be NFL. Like I said, everyone does the very best they can and no one is perfect. We are not engaged in a crunchy contest to see who is the best. I will go out on a limb and assume that everyone is here because there is info that benefits them in someway as a human and a parent. Sometimes some of us need to eat at McD's. Sometimes some of us need to buy formula at walmart. I came here to learn and receiving info is a huge blessing to me, being judged is not.

Namaste,

Michelle
post #97 of 134
This is an NFL board...and we are here to be supportive, helpful and each share our own wisdom with eachother as well as receive that from others. Right?? Right????

So why is it not okay to profess that it's perhaps not a great thing to eat at McDonalds or any other fast food restaurant? If I was on here talking about the differences between formulas and which one was better for my child...sure as heck someone would pop in with options having to do with bfing and that would be okay. Or so it seems...

My point is, why do we need to get tense about other peoples thoughts. If some people eat at mcdonalds isn't it okay for others to wonder why you would and give details as to what makes it not okay? If I was making a choice that wasn't for the greater good of my child and knew that there were better options for my child, I would be looking for alternatives YK? The OP seemed to have noticed this and in expressing her alternatives, others provided further wisdom. Some talked about snacks in the car, others about going to healthier fast food joints etc.

Often times I have been in a pinch...fussy hungry little one in tow and she's been super starving. We didn't go to mcd's because that was our only option, we stopped at the grocery store, grabbed something quick and ate it in the car. THe point of my rant here is that beyond putting some supposedly healthy veggies on an already crappy burger there are OTHER options.

Mc Donalds food is not natural...I don't think anyone can debate that...so why the hostility from those who do eat there? Aren't you looking for healthier alternatives???

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post #98 of 134
I completely agree and respect those that say eating at McD's is unhealthy. Instead of putting puking icons, ick, ewww, disgusting, that's nasty, how could you do that to your kids, etc.... how about you teach me what you know. Help me learn some healthy viable alternatives? Educating is one thing, shaming and guilt tripping is another. I learn a lot faster and whole lot better when the lesson in matter of fact and not judgemental, sorry if that makes me a bad person, but that's just how I am. I would like very much for this to be a supportive atmosphere where we could ask questions, even about unhealthy things, and get some good solid answers without being put down for making mistakes in the past.

namaste,

Michelle
post #99 of 134
And I can totally respect your position...sorry for my role in the puking icon...ever since seeing Supersize Me I can't help but feel that way...but I should have been more sensitive.

Basically...IMO it seems people eat fast food for it's convenience. Yes? I think a pp said that it isn't always convenient, I inferred that she was referring to the long term health consequeneces to eating food that doesn't serve us well. I can't agree with this more. There is so much evidence out there that indicates eating a diet rich in whole foods will give us better health, ward off disease and help us to feel better, have more energy, and a better frame of mind. And that is just us as adults. What about our children? I basically worry that though it's easy to pop a burger in her hungry little mouth and get instant gratification, that she will pay the consequences for this later in life, through poor eating habits of her own, disease, or obesity. We do all want what's best for our children...so why not help eachother find ways to avoid things that harm our kids.

Sooo...to be more specific, from what I have read, do and can see from this thread...here is my list of alternatives:

Fast food -
Subway, quizinos, wendy's salads, tim hortons (for us CDNS)

Pack sandwiches, cheese and crackers, bagels, fruit, sliced veggies, granola bars, or even leftovers for the car if you are out and kiddos need to eat.

Plan your day around your meals so to avoid getting to that hungry time of day and be in need of stopping somewhere.

Model what you want your kids to be doing. If you eat mcd's they will want to also. Show them healthy eating habits with moderation in foods that are a good treat but still have some value to them. (Smoothies, fruit salad, muffins, homemade burgers and oven baked fries (try sweet potato ones ).

Anyone else have ideas...this is my effort at sharing what I think will help us all be healthier individuals.
post #100 of 134
Thanks for the suggestions. Those are so helpful!!!!
I know that my next question probably isn't a particularly healthful one but here goes:
Frozen foods/TV Dinners... anything you'd recommend?
I have FM and CFS and there are days when my joints feel like they are filled with ground up glass and I can't even stand up well enough to try to cook for anymore than a few minutes. I have relied on fast food and frozen food a lot during these times and I don't really know what to replace it with other than the suggestions you just gave. So anything in the freezer aisle that's good?

Namaste,

Michelle
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