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post #21 of 37
fek:

our insurance provider agreed to pay up for 50% of our costs for various alternative treatments when we asked. i did ask by phone and talked with a human being--it's very different than sending a letter.
post #22 of 37
Thread Starter 
thanks guys.

I have medicaid for insurance, and my Dr would have to make a huge case w/ them to cover either procedure, so I'm certain they would not cover anything else related to weight loss assistance, ykwim?

I came up originally w/ 4 ozs/6x a day, (i got the 4 ozs from what MIL said the GBS pouch holds), but I am never around or something comes up and I skip a meal anyway.

I can't exactly just change everything as far as making healthier quality foods b/c I already do, lol. Its just the quantity that I have a problem with. (Although, I would do more organics if it weren't for the cost!) I've switched from VitD to skim milk, we eat salads and veggies, and we dilute juices by 50%...(DH refuses to give up sodas), we eat more whole grains and less refined sugars, etc.

It doesnt matter how healthy the food is, if you eat 3x the reccomended serving, you won't lose weight, lol. That's my problem, basically.

I forget the name of my yoga DVD, buts its cardio-based, so its supposed to help you lose weight as well as limber you up. Its for beginner's too, and I just have a hard time bending as far as I need to, leaning this way and that, and at some point usually fall over or get a fat-cramp, lol. I am trying to do more w/ my tae bo...DH has a friend who lost alot of weight doing that, and i can do it, it just hurts my knees and i have to stop and rewind it to keep up with what they are doing, lol.

Next paycheck, I am going to inquire at the gym about their services. I definately need a support system. I really wish DH would do this with me, it would be easier for us both, but he complains and whines whenever we try to diet together, etc, its just not going to happen with him! His attitude is this: He's a man, and he needs more than 1 broiled chicken breast and a salad for dinner.

thanks you guys! I am leaving my thoughts of surgery behind and focusing on me and my DD and making myself healthier for us both!
post #23 of 37
I can't weigh in on the surgery, but if you are worried about portion sizes, you might want to check out the book Eat to Live, by Joel Fuhrman. There are also numerous monthly threads here in this forum on the topic. While I would not do it as low fat as he recommends, you can totally lose weight quickly doing this diet. And, re portion sizes, you can eat unlimited amounts of veggies (and fruits, but veggies are better). Also you eat a min of one cup of beans per day. Beans are great for filling you up and keeping you full for a long time AND are nutritious. If you buy dried beans and soak and cook them yourself, not only are they better for you, but also very cheap.

The salads I used to eat (when I was really on plan) were the size of what I would normally serve a salad in for my whole family.
post #24 of 37
I haven't read every single post in this thread so please forgive me if I'm repeating anything, but I just read too that you aren't thinking about GBS anymore?

I had GBS 4 months ago and I have to say that it is the single best thing I have ever done for myself, I have lost 83 pounds so far and feel better than I have in years. It is not taking the easy way out by any means and has been very hard for me but I am so happy when I put on a pair of pants just to find that they are now falling off of me.
I take alot of vitamins every day and eat at least 80g of protein a day, you have to to make sure that your body is still getting the nutrients it needs. I have seen those people who have had the surgery who have that "sickly" look to them but they are usually the people who refuse to take their vitamins and eat all of their protein. I do have some extra skin but my insurance will pay for my plastic surgery so I'm not too worried about it.

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me, I also belong to a site that is for people who have had the surgery and it has been a real life-saver for me.
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
There are still a few questions I have about WLS in general. Does it basically work by restricting how much you can eat at once, forcing you to stick to a diet? If that's the case, it seems to me that sticking to a restrictive diet would be just as effective (though would require a whole lot more willpower) making any kind of WLS unneccessary. Or is there some other factor at play besides forced portion control?
Weight loss surgery requires a drastic change in diet or you get side effects--throwing up, diarhhea, nutrients aren't absorbed, etc. There was a couple in Seattle who both had the surgery...the Seattle Times followed their story. Worth a read if you're considering this...http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...risks03m0.html is one of their articles on it. And this one http://archives.seattletimes.nwsourc...&date=20030304
post #26 of 37
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Originally Posted by ChristyH View Post
I haven't read every single post in this thread so please forgive me if I'm repeating anything, but I just read too that you aren't thinking about GBS anymore?

I had GBS 4 months ago and I have to say that it is the single best thing I have ever done for myself, I have lost 83 pounds so far and feel better than I have in years. It is not taking the easy way out by any means and has been very hard for me but I am so happy when I put on a pair of pants just to find that they are now falling off of me.
I take alot of vitamins every day and eat at least 80g of protein a day, you have to to make sure that your body is still getting the nutrients it needs. I have seen those people who have had the surgery who have that "sickly" look to them but they are usually the people who refuse to take their vitamins and eat all of their protein. I do have some extra skin but my insurance will pay for my plastic surgery so I'm not too worried about it.

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me, I also belong to a site that is for people who have had the surgery and it has been a real life-saver for me.


what she said!

I was talking to my sister last night and told her about all the horror stories that I have heard as well. She said the same thing. Those people who are malnurished, are not following their doctors instruction and not taking their vitamins.
post #27 of 37
Christy1980---go kick that doctor of yours in the pants.
You did not have the gallbladder issues due to weight--you had gallbladder issues due to heredity. I know because I run marathons and had no choice but to have my seriously diseased gallbadder removed last year...and I don't have the weight issues. And mine was so bad that I had I not had it removed, I would have died (it was diseased and had attached itself to my liver)...it was awful (and of course, it was so bad that I had surgery and wasn't able to have it removed laproscopically--figures!)....
So don't you dare kick yourself for that! You did your best with nursing and you gave it all you had--that is the best you can do. Don't get into the mindset that is self-defeating!
For what it's worth, I looked at your Christmas picture and you a very beautiful woman. There are lots of beautiful on-the-outside people who are worthless on the inside. Just remember that.
A research partner of mine had the surgery done (bypass) and she lost over 180 pounds and then went through (and is still going through) surgery to remove excess skin. She seems happy, but my concern for her would be how she eats now. Many things make her very ill and she can not enjoy anything larger than an ounce or two at a time, which meant that ate throughout all of our meetings (I only see her once a week, but it was the same every week).
I say let nature be your guide...maybe take some of the suggestions here that don't require surgery and forget willpower--that's a myth.
Little steps. After all, we don't gain it overnight, it won't come off that way.
For me, it's the wake up call that my kids need me and if I am not healthy enough to take care of them--no one else will! My health issues aren't serious, but I am a much older mom and that worries me every day.
Hang in there, I am sure that this is a difficult decision for you and I wish you the best in making the best decision for YOU.
post #28 of 37
I have no experience with WLS, but I have very similair situation to you. I am 5'6" tall and in Jan of last year I weighed 230, my highest weight ever (even counting preg). I had high blood pressure that resulted in my last 2 c-sec adn I felt so unhealthy. I have no will power when it comes to food - I LOVE it. We too eat very healthy, but I was eating alot of it. On April 1st of last year I started Eat to Live. No meat and cheese is very hard for me and I do break down and have a bite once in a while - but it is ok to "cheat" once in a while on it, and you get to eat so much good food. I am now about 175 (my scale broke) and I am down 3 clothes sizes and I feel so much better. My BP is down some, but not completely. Just an alternative to think about
post #29 of 37
Thread Starter 
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Thanks you guys.

Moonshine, yes! more salads, more beans! : I love garbonzos, lol.

ChristyH, I am not considering surgery my only option anymore. When I came here and posted my OP, I was really depressed about my weight and I had just watched the show about the guy that played Buck Rogers having had GBS. I cried and was thinking "that could be me, losing 100 pounds in a year!" Thank you for sharing your story and congratulations on your weight loss! my MIL is not keeping up with her meds/vits/protein, and her DH and DD yell at her regularly for it, lol. so she looks sickly and her hair is very thin and frizzy. I'm not sure if she has had her skin removal surgery or not, but hers wasnt very bad, it may have sprung back on its own ykwim?

GG! omg!! i think i should go kick my Dr...get this...my aunt, my uncle, my grandma and my mom have all had their gall bladders out, too, and ALL of our Drs say that diseased galll bladders are not hereditary. All of us are obese, though, except uncle and grandma. Thank you for your post, you mostly said everything i needed to hear, lol.

Jess, Congratulations on your weight loss! we could not do a 'no meat/cheese" diet b/c my DH would kill me for taking it away from him, lol, and I could not resist it if it was in the house, ykwim?
post #30 of 37
i think that portion sizing can be difficult, but my parents did "the zone" and find the portions "too large!' and i've definately heard the dame of fuhrman!

i eat salads that are like this: tw heads of lettuce, cucumbers (about 1/2 a large one or a whole small/med one), 1/2 white onion, about 1.5 cups garbonzos (or other bean--i love frnech lentils sprouted!), celery (about 3-4 sticks cut to pieces), olive oil and sea salt. it's huge. i love it!

it's certainly not four oz of food. don't starve yourself--that will not help with weight loss!
post #31 of 37
Just poking in, suggestion in terms of feeling full while still eating less food. I have always find that if I draw out the meal by eating mindfully, chewing food longer, putting my fork down sooner and taking a sip or two of water between every bite makes me feel much fuller with less. The water helps fill your stomach up and I find I drink more water this way then if I'm just trying to drink it by itself. I'm not always good about doing this, but it works for me when I do!
post #32 of 37
Thread Starter 
well, i've lost 2 pounds doing portion control for 4 days! Yay! And I'm really not hungry all the time, i find I'm getting hungry right on schedule...I try to space my mini-meals or snacks about 2 hours apart, so i get hungry about every 2 hours. If I try to eat more than 4oz, i feel over-full, so I think my portions are ok and I don't feel deprived.
post #33 of 37
spacing is important, as it keeps blood sugar levels balanced i eat every two or so hours too.

i tend to eat about 1500 cals a day--so not much--but i don't function on "oz" because i don't know how that would work as far as figuring out macro and micro nutrient needs.

i do agree that eating mindfully is important.
post #34 of 37
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i find that i want to eat healthy, that i want to get up in the am an move (i do yoga first thing, after washing hands and rinsing my mouth--as is traditional). that i want to exercise throughout the day. these are things that i turly want.

when i act on that, then i'm living as i want and my body is healthy and happy.

thus, eat and move as much as you want! but first, you have to discern between what you are doing habitually and what you truly want.
wow, this really resonates with me!! thank you!
post #35 of 37
I had gastric bypass just over 2 years ago and I have lost about 230 pounds. I am very healthy, have just had blood work done in Dec to prove it, and am 100% convinced that this surgery saved my life... pm me if you want more details.
post #36 of 37
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I had gastric bypass just over 2 years ago and I have lost about 230 pounds. I am very healthy, have just had blood work done in Dec to prove it, and am 100% convinced that this surgery saved my life... pm me if you want more details.
wow- that is awesome!
my sister just got her new surgery date!
post #37 of 37
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I had gastric bypass just over 2 years ago and I have lost about 230 pounds. I am very healthy, have just had blood work done in Dec to prove it, and am 100% convinced that this surgery saved my life... pm me if you want more details.
That is wonderful!! I just had my surgery 4 months ago and am down 83 pounds so far, I have 70 pounds left to lose and am hoping to do that in the next 6 months so I can have my plastic surgery. You rock! Way to go!
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