Lds Mamas/papa #37 - Page 2

[DucetteMama21842]

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!! My 300th post!! I am so excited. I started with only five in October. So I am so excited to hit 300. Actually, I think it speaks more of my addiction.

[rolenta]

Hey ladies. I'm kind of jumping in the middle here, hope no one minds :. I just thought it would be fun to get in touch with a community of like-minded mormon mamas! I don't know anyone who's into the natural family living stuff except me and I'm getting weary of the phrase "We don't need to worry about the environment, God will just fix it later." I think those people will be knee deep in dirty disposables cleaning up after themselves in the millennium, but that's just my opinion.:.

Anyway, I think reading all the posts in all the threads would kill me, so I'm just jumping in feet first!

[holyhelianthus]

NCD and Alicia- i totally heart you! :

here i am, up at 3am because i can't sleep for anything. stress stress stress. :

[holyhelianthus]

about the ex-Mormon thread on Alicia's site-
ack! yeah. i can understand the need for a community being an ex-ex-Mormon, but to be utterly disrespectful like that is telling of those particular people's character. i will say, however, that our ex-Mormon mommas on this board are very tasteful. i...erm... visted their thread a few times because, as i said, i'm an ex-ex-Mormon and was curious. never posted, becaue i thought it would be out of line, but couldn't help but look. i can understand where they are coming from and they are very nice ladies. they just disagree with the church and that's okay. where the line is crossed and then turned around and sptit on is when all respect is lost and things are said that are both hurtful and shouldn't be shared- especially in that light. NO ONE has the right to treat ANYONE'S belifes in that manner, IMHO. it would irk me no matter what the belife system.

[holyhelianthus]

hey Rolenta- i just ventured over to the ex-Mormon's thread and noticed you called us 'mos' and 'mo-mos' i had never heard that term until recently when, in my AP group, an ex-member momma used it. where does that come from?
and i gravitate towards the ex-members, too. when i fell away there was a nice big group of us that stuck together. two of them are my best friends. when i went back i got nothing but love from all of them and we still talk often.

[seren]

A new thread, YAY! I'm so tired, I wish my baby would sleep longer in the morning, but she doens't. Our family has been pretty busy. Dh is on a stupid work rotation. He had 3 days off, now he works overnight for 7 days (he works 12 hour shifts), then four days off, then day shift for 7 days, then 3 days off, night shift for 7 days, and repeat. Ugh
I am 5 days late, I had on test have a positive line, but only after the alloted time. Not evensure when. I have taken three more tests, all negative. Still no AF. With my last two it took forever to get a positive test. So I feel all in limbo. I might go to the dr today for a blood test. It's so annoying to not know.

Maggie, I noticed you have two names in your sig for the new baby. Are you thinking of a new one now?

[LDSmomma6]

Hey!!!!!!!!! Another Heidi!! Where is the other one? Heidi_m? That's my last name initial too...

Anyway, Heidi here...LDSmomma7! Joseph goes in today for his 2 week appt. He has been having a hard time nursing at night. He has a stuffy nose. I am taking him to a new doc. Actually he isn't a new doc to my other kids, but a new baby doc for me. I've never taken a newborn to this doc, so I really don't know how he is with BF and all. I hear he is good though, and he is good with my other children, so we shall see. My other doc that I have always taken my newborns too is 5 hrs away. That doc was pretty upset in the hospital that I wouldn't be taking him back to him. He forgot that I had moved, and I reminded him that I had not abandon him. He was such a great doc! I really liked him!!

I weighed myself yesterday. I can officially say I am less then 200!!!!!!!! Talk about proud of myself!!!!!!! When I had Lindsey, I stayed at 225 for almost 2 yrs!! I could not loose the weight!!! This time I was only 215 when I went in to have Joseph, and yesterday I was 198!! I am so happy!!!!!! My maternity jeans are about to fall off me, but my pre-pregnancy jeans are still a little bit tight...like maybe a few more weeks of walking will getting me down, and if I quit eating these stupid poptarts (only eating them today because DDs gave me their leftovers...: ) Yes!! I have poptarts in my house!! There, I said it!! I'm a failure at breakfast time!! I am so not a morning person!! My kids are lucky to get cold cereal w/milk and lunches packed for school!!

Anyway, I have a few hours before I have to get in the shower to take Joseph to the doc. I am going to go lie in the bed, while the younger girls are watching Nick, Jr. :

Oh, and I forgot to ask the hospital, which I may need to call...I noticed after I got released that Joseph had gotten a shot (without my knowledge). It was in his upper thigh. Would that have been the HepB? I can't remember what they give at hospitals anymore. I assume he also got his PKU. I do remember having to go back to the clinic at 2 weeks to get the other PKU done, but I don't know what they do here. Guess I will find out today!! We delay vacs, just to let y'all know, so I was kinda ticked that he was given a shot. :

[LDSmomma6]

Originally Posted by seren

Maggie, I noticed you have two names in your sig for the new baby. Are you thinking of a new one now?

I think I read somewhere on another post, that she isn't convinced that she is having a girl...so she has the boy name picked just in case!!!

Maggie...tell us about the names! My DH would never go for names that your children's. I think they are cute, but he would have a cow!

[holyhelianthus]

Originally Posted by LDSmomma6

I think I read somewhere on another post, that she isn't convinced that she is having a girl...so she has the boy name picked just in case!!!

Maggie...tell us about the names! My DH would never go for names that your children's. I think they are cute, but he would have a cow!

:

Olive is our girl's name pick and Romulus our boy's although Romulus isn't in stone. truth be told no name for us ever is until baby gets here and we *know* they're a such-and-such. but Romulus is our favorite that we can agree on. the other two are Omri (my pick) and Ezra (his pick).

Heidi! i'm lucky to have a DH as nuts as i am. he picked Mable's first name. we decided while preggers with Lily that all our children's names would mean something to us personally. and that their middle names would start with the first letter of their first names and be from Tolkien, again with something that means something personally to us. we be crazy! he named Mable after a song i named Lilith after a myth (Lilith as the first wife of Adam). Olive is for my love of olive trees, Romulus is because we're trekkies : Omri is for 'the Indian in the Cupboard' series and Ezra is not the Prophet but rather a band DH likes. personally, i'm rooting for Omri but Romulus is okay, too. we'll see when he gets here. because i swear he's a he!!! of course, i'm prob wrong and insane for going against the u/s but that's just me. suprisingly we don't have any other girls names that seem 'right'. Olive is it. so if she arives and is, infact, a she but isn't an 'Olive' she'll be nameless for a while.

[Laurel]

I never intro'd myself on the last thread, so I guess I'll do it now. I've been part of the LDS threads since the very first one way back in January 2002. I can't believe it's been that long! There's been a lot of water under the bridge here.

I've been married for 11.5 years and have two children. Dallin is 4.5 and Sariah will be 6 months in a few days. Both of my children were adopted through LDS Family Services, in fact, Sariah will be sealed to us in just a few weeks. I'm so excited! I have also been wanting to brag to somebody that my baby is still nursing! I know that is not a big deal to most of you, but for me with inducing lactation, and with having such a hellish time trying to do it with ds and ending up giving up at 4.5 months, making it this far is a huge milestone! Especially when things are going well and I have no reason to doubt that she will still be nursing at 1 year and hopefully at 2 years and beyond. I am hardly making any milk at all, and I sometimes feel guilty and discouraged about that....but I have to keep telling myself that what I have accomplished is super-human anyway and there is no reason to feel guilty when I have done far more than most moms would do.

I am a Cub Scout den leader in my ward, and trying to keep liking it after 3 years. The new RS president came up to me last night and we were talking about callings, and she told me that she keeps thinking of my name and has thought about making me a teacher. I am so flattered, but why do these RS presidents keep telling me this stuff and getting my hopes up? Our last RS president submitted my name for the same calling 1.5 years ago and was turned down, being told that I am needed in Scouts. Then, just a month or so ago, she mentioned casually that they needed another teacher and joked that maybe she could try again for me. However, a few weeks later I accidentally saw a piece of scrap paper that dh had left laying around, which was a note saying that they were submitting a name for the calling, and it wasn't mine. (DH is in the bishopric.) I was bummed about that. So now we have a new president, and here she is telling me that she is thinking about me and wonders if I should be a teacher? Is this some message from the universe, or just a way to make me truly crazy to continually get my hopes up for my dream calling and then keep me in Scouts??? : I now understand why it is protocol to keep discussion of callings quiet until the call has been extended.

So anyway, I'm in Cub Scouts and dh is in the bishopric, which has been a great learning adventure and challenge for me the past six months, especially with a new baby. That could be a whole other post, but my baby is fussing and I'd better stop now.

[KarmaJoy]

Hi everyone ~ I have been lurking on the old thread for a while and figured with the new thread I should step up and introduce myself. It is nice to see like-minded LDS mamas...not exactly the norm here in the midwest, which is hard becuase I am from Oregon whre the crunch factor is a little higher. I have a completely delightful 16 month old dd. We co-sleep but are trying ease out of it, and trying to keep breastfeeding (6 months of thrush and counting) I use mainly sposies : but CD some as we are in the early stages of potty training. I believe in AP and good nutrition. Well...that's me. Hi! :

[Isaacs_mom]

thanks danile for the encouragement i am gonna try it today but we are also considering a diaper service .and i love your son's name too
mags : i love your kids names very original , when i first saw that , i thought you were saying it was twins :

hope everyone is having a great day !!

[Isaacs_mom]

hi Karmajoy welcome

[milk4two]

Hi to everyone. I'm Adria, mom to 8 kids ages 16 through 6 months. I also feel out of place at our ward. I know it's because w/ my twin pregnancy, then the twins crazy 1st two years and then another baby...we haven't made it to church nearly as often as we'd have liked. Neither of us have callings either, which is good because I don't know how we'd get them done, but also makes for not having many friends in the ward.

Last week someone stood up in RS and said that she had 9 children (all grown). And that with 9 children it was very important to find one thing to be happy about or grateful for each day. I felt like she was speaking right to me. I'm having such a hard time because it seems like someone is always crying and I just can't take that day in and day out without a break. Since I heard her talk I've been looking for one thing each day and it's helping. Sometimes it's a struggle to find one thing to be happy about but I always manage, even if its something small.

I am definitely going to find the book mentioned previously (And the Righteous Shall Prosper) - so thank you for recommending it!

[danaalex]

i'm dana, i have three dds, 5, 3.5, and 21 mo. i was baptized aug 19, 2006 and i just love the church. i love everything about it. i wish that i had found it sooner! my girls love it too. and my Dh who was not really supportive in the beginning has become much more relaxed about the whole thing. he's gone to a bunch of activities with us, and enjoys the company of some of the other fathers i have met. there are a lot of engineers and CIA type people in our ward and i think that is good for my DH.

so, things are good

i have a question for those of you who are SAHMs with LITTLE kids or kids that are at home for a reason (ie. homeschooled). how much does your husband help out at home? how organized/ clean is your house?

my DH and i had a discussion this morning because of a box that was left in our kitchen. last week i was sick and i am sick again this week. and i am NEVER EVER EVER sick. so, christmas stuff has been taken down and put in boxes, but the boxes haven't made their way back into the basement because i haven't felt up to taking them downstairs. of course HE doesn't think, " oh maybe i could help her with this." no, he says to me, "well, it looked like you had it under control." but then today he gets upset that the stuff isn't put away yet. i told him that i do the best i can around here, and if he is expecting perfection he's not going to get it from me.

i keep our house clean, and organized, but sometimes some stuff has to wait--- like when i'm sick and trying to care for three small children. i guess i'm wondering if other men are like this too??????

[LionTigerBear]

Hi Dana, we've been in the church for almost four years ( where does the time go??)

Fulltime childcare is a fulltime job (more than!) so my husband and I view it that way. We share "chores"-- errands and housecare-- mostly equally. But if one of us is less able, the other one picks up the slack at that time. So if dh is working over time, I pick up the slack (or try to) or if I'm having a hard time with our baby, then he will do more around the house.

Now, I am the one who is pickiest about the place being neat. I have realized that havingthe house be out of order at all is a real trigger for depression for me, and I don't think that's unusual. I think having as much "stuff" as people tend to have in this society is the abnormal thing. It gets everywhere and gets cluttered. My dh and I are really getting into a more minimalistic lifestyle. Things have been leaving our apartment in truckloads. Where did it all come from? IT is very freeing. We don't need it. It's just stuff. Most of DS1s toys are out, he doesn't need that many, furniture that isn't regularly used or we don't like, is gone, extra clothes, extra plates, gone . . . all gone.

It makes cleaning so much easier and the more we get rid of the happier we are. It is seriously addictive in a good way.

Since I am the one who is pickiest about cleaning up, I usually have a problem with things being dirty beofre he does. (Not always though.) I usually let my dh know, nicely, what I would like done, and then I have to be gentle about how and when he chooses to do it. But if it is really bothering me I let him know how I'm feeling too. (Without blaming him, I have to take responsibility for my own feelings. That's the hard part!)

HTH

[Bekka]

Originally Posted by danaalex

how much does your husband help out at home? how organized/ clean is your house? ...

of course HE doesn't think, " oh maybe i could help her with this." no, he says to me, "well, it looked like you had it under control." but then today he gets upset that the stuff isn't put away yet.

Hi Dana, DH helps out a LOT. Things are usually behind in the organized and clean department. DH is a physicist, though, and I had a lot of guy friends in college who were science/engineering types. What I found is that there is NOTHING intuitive in the way they interact in relationships, but they usually aren't bothered if someone indicates what they need.

Example: DH probably would also not have thought "oh, I could help her with this." But if I'd said, "Oh, I wish I could get to the Christmas box, but I feel awful and lightheaded," or even better, "Can you please take it downstairs", he _knows_ how to help me. He doesn't have to try and guess about what I'm needing right now.

He does REALLY well knowing about the routines of the house. Since we moved in, he is a champion laundry sorter, and will round up kid laundry, diapers, and even weird stuff like tablecloths. Reads ALL the labels, and won't put it in if he's not sure (asks me). He also does more of the financial stuff (most ...: ), but I do more of the "wet cleaning." (Toilets, sinks, tubs, floors) and he doesn't like "washing" such as heavy cleaning of pots, etc. I hate organizing, so he'll empty the rack and put away dishes out of the dw. He does a lot more than my dad does; my parents fall into really traditional roles, but my mom showed more love and less organizational skills to us!:

Okay, is that really more than anyone needed? I have 4 kids, dd's 8 and 6, and 6 mos. and ds 3. I love doing CDing--I'm being very hermit-like this January after all my sewing and travelling in Dec. But at least I'm exercising. I just have all these plans for sewing, organizing the house, etc. I'm just having trouble to get enough sleep to be able to implement my ideas. Plus I'm reading about something specific and important that's pending ... for church. I love to sew, read, and I'm very interested in NCB, nutrition, and I'm
"lactively" involved in a grassroots support organization for breastfeeding. Drewsmom used to be in my ward, but their move has been great for them. But we miss her! She planted a lot of natural living seeds, I think. There are slings and stuff all over the place in our ward. And they had a "Mobywrap" party in another ward in the stake.

[Leiahs]

Hi everyone!

So my VT called this morning just as I was walking out the door and apologized profusely for missing our appointment. She said she was so embarrased...she hadn't even looked at the calendar this week, and was thinking it was next week. She asked if I remembered, and I said I did, and she told me I could call her and remind her anytime if it ever happened again. I *felt* like it was probably just a slip and she totally didn't remember. And I even considered calling her, but felt uncomfortable with the idea. Anyway, I know she wanted to come, and now I feel a bit guilty about venting about it before even talking to her first.

Alisa, about the other board and ex-mormon stuff. Boy oh boy. Years ago when I had a sloooowwww job, I used to hang out at an LDS board, which was at least half populated by non-members or ex-members. The discussions there were just...well, let's put it this way: After several months of participating in the discussions, even when trying to do my best at explaining things with my own point of view and testimony, I *HAD* to just leave, and be completely done with it, because it was so destructive to my faith and having the Spirit nearby. It really just opened a huge can of worms inside my head, and I started questioning things I really should have just left alone. So I just avoid any similar topics nowdays, so I don't go down that path again.

About diapers: I have to again admit that I've fairly new to the natural living scene, and am still making changes in my life. I had no second thoughts about using disposable diapers with my first child. And also with my second child, at first, despite having heard of options about cloth diapering. It wasn't until our diaper pail broke and I started putting both their diapers in plastic grocery bags that things just hit me - DH had gotten behind on taking the trash out, and there I was, with only 2 kids in diapers, and my hallway was lined with 4 plastic bags, completely stuffed to the brim with plastic diapers, and I looked at it, and just when "OH MY GOSH. What am I *doing*?" All of that was going to the dump, and going to sit there for who knows how long, all from me and my TWO children. I had considered the idea of cloth before, but never looked into it much because I was comfortable, but that was the catalyst for me really starting to change. Before that, I had always been of the mind set that recycling and stuff "didn't really matter" because the second coming would come soon enough, and the earth would be renewed anyway. : I didn't need to worry about the earth's condition 200+ years from now!

But now I've changed my view on things - just like I want to take care of my body, keep it clean and pure and working at its best, because it is God's gift to me, and sacred, the same should apply to the earth - I should try harder to take care of it and keep it clean. And besides, I dont' really know how long it needs to last, anyway.

I guess that's less about diapers and more about environmentalism...but still applicable, I guess. For me, the decision to go ahead with cloth diapers came down to eliminating such a huge source of waste in my family, and also saving a bit of money overall.

Danaalex:
My home is generally a wreck!! DH helps out a ton. I'm not a great housekeeper at all (I learned a lot of bad habits from my mom, but even still, that's not really an excuse...) and so basically DH has an equal share of the load. I generally take care of the laundry, although DH frequently helps me fold when I'm doing a lot at once. DH does at least half of the kitchen cleaning - we're both bad about stacking dishes up instead of putting them right into the dishwasher, so we take equal responsibility in the mess We both do general pick up/vaccuming, but I do a little bit more than he does.

Basically, my view to rationalize all this is that it's my job to care for and entertain the kids during the day, and his job to earn money at his job, and the house is both our responsibility. Now, if we had a house and not an apartment, and he had to do work to maintain it (like plumbing, drywall, etc) then I might change that a little bit and work harder to shift the household chores a little further to my side of the scale to make up for the maintenance he would be doing during his non-working hours.

He's not always thrilled to help me, but knows me well enough to realize that if he doesn't help, I'll just wait until I'm good and ready to get going. If he does help, it goes faster and gets done earlier, and everyone is happier!

[guestmama9911]

Originally Posted by magstphil

about the ex-Mormon thread on Alicia's site-
ack! yeah. i can understand the need for a community being an ex-ex-Mormon, but to be utterly disrespectful like that is telling of those particular people's character. i will say, however, that our ex-Mormon mommas on this board are very tasteful. i...erm... visted their thread a few times because, as i said, i'm an ex-ex-Mormon and was curious. never posted, becaue i thought it would be out of line, but couldn't help but look. i can understand where they are coming from and they are very nice ladies. they just disagree with the church and that's okay. where the line is crossed and then turned around and sptit on is when all respect is lost and things are said that are both hurtful and shouldn't be shared- especially in that light. NO ONE has the right to treat ANYONE'S belifes in that manner, IMHO. it would irk me no matter what the belife system.

Bryan made a good point when he said "What do you expect from a board started by people who didn't like that MDC wouldn't let them talk bad about other people?"

Touché.

It doesn't say much about people when they take pride in ripping up someone's religion. I wanted to dish out as much as I was getting but luckily Bryan is levelheaded and talked me out of it. So I'm going to vent on my blog and leave it at that.

[guestmama9911]

Originally Posted by danaalex

i have a question for those of you who are SAHMs with LITTLE kids or kids that are at home for a reason (ie. homeschooled). how much does your husband help out at home? how organized/ clean is your house?

I can't answer this question because my DH is a contributing member of this thread.