Bebesho2, I had HPV, too. I had it 7- oops, 8 now! -years ago. I also did a lot of research into it. Eight years ago, long before the advent of Gardasil, the information said it was transmitted via skin to skin contact in the genital region. My dad had the internet as soon as it became available. I've been using it since you had to pay per minute.
I definitely knew what I was looking for. I found enough info to wait it out, against my doc's advice. I was right, it went away on its own.
Besides, what you're saying (that they stopped saying HPV was easily transmissible once a vaccine became available) doesn't even make sense. Now that there's a vaccine, they should be trying to convince us that HPV is
very easily transmissible, not the opposite. If they had evidence that you could catch HPV w/o having sex, they'd be telling us about it, not hiding it. The less safe people feel, the more vaccine they sell.
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| To evaluate the transmission of genital human papillomavirus (HPV) through the floor and seats of humid dwellings, samples were collected with a toothbrush from the floor and seat surfaces of humid dwellings; showers, saunas and dressing rooms. The survey included 3 bathing resorts, 1 indoor swimming pool, 2 schools and 2 private homes. Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) was used to amplify the human beta-globin gene and HPV DNA. The results for HPV DNA amplification were confirmed by Southern blot hybridization under low stringency using a probe mixture of HPV types 6, 16, 18 and 31. beta-globin could be amplified only from 3 sample taken from a dressing room of and indoor public swimming pool. No HPV DNA-positive samples were found. These results indicate that transmission of genital HPV infection via floor or seat surfaces in the above dwellings in general or family use is highly unlikely. |
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Citation
None of the scenarios you've described prove that HPV is transmitted via hot tubs or toilet seats or whatever. You said you were monogamous for many years. Was your DH your only partner, ever? Were you his only partner, ever? You yourself said infection could lie dormant for years, so why would you assume that you both came to the relationship without HPV? Even if you were both virgins, had you both had no sexual contact whatsoever? Even if you had both had no sexual contact whatsoever, you don't know that neither one of you contracted it from your mothers. Vertical transmission is probably possible.
For your friend, again, vertical transmission is probably possible.
And with your relative, well, so they had one partner and they used protection. Condoms don't prevent HPV infection. They reduce the risk, but the nature of the disease means they cannot always prevent infection. So, was their partner a virgin before the relationship? Had neither of them ever had
any form of sexual contact before the relationship? And again, vertical transmission is probably possible. You mentioned the whole years of abstinence thing, but you know it can lie dormant for years without causing symptoms.
It's not unusual for high-risk types to cause no problem for 20 years, then suddenly the woman has dysplasia. This isn't evidence that the infection is new, only that it is newly detected.
There is proof that people can carry HPV DNA on their fingers. So it would be possible for someone with HPV to touch their infected genitals, not wash their hands, then touch someone else's hands, transferring the virus. However, in order for that other person to become infected, they'd have to then go home and touch their own genitals with their dirty fingers AND they'd have to have enough of the actual virus on their own hands to cause infection, which is incredibly unlikely, but not impossible. So I guess I could shake hands with someone, then go home and change my Diva cup w/o washing my hands (eeeewwww! Wash your hands before doing things like that people!) and infect myself. Does that really make HPV something other than an STD? But that hardly means I'm just as likely to catch HPV as the barfly who sleeps with everyone that comes along. Remember, your original post was that DocsNemesis, who is in a monogamous relationship, is just as likely to catch HPV as anyone else. That's hyperbole.
Even if I thought I were at risk, I wouldnt be getting the vax though.
