Is this raw milk???

[SweetAfton]

If something is advertised as: vat pasteurized, non-homogenized, organic and natural milks does that mean it's raw?

It's for an Iowa source on realmilk.com.

About its vat pasteurization: http://farmersallnaturalcreamery.com/FAQs.html

TIA!


Oh- and you'd think Iowa of all places would have a source of raw milk within 2 hours of me! :

[Sihaya]

My gut tells me that this is not really raw milk. However, I'm not a milk expert, so someone else may very well disprove me. If it's your only alternative to pasteruized, though, I would go for it.

As far as Iowa and availability of raw milk, the states with the some of the strictest laws are the dairy-producing states (I live in one too!) because the commercial dairy farmers fight hard to keep raw milk out of stores.

[Nikki98]

Originally Posted by SweetAfton

If something is advertised as: vat pasteurized, non-homogenized, organic and natural milks does that mean it's raw?

It's for an Iowa source on realmilk.com.

About its vat pasteurization: http://farmersallnaturalcreamery.com/FAQs.html

TIA!


Oh- and you'd think Iowa of all places would have a source of raw milk within 2 hours of me! :

No this isn't raw milk, because this milk is pasturized, but at least it is not homogenized.
Raw milk is straight from the cow (no pasturization/no homogenization). Really I would think it would be pretty easy to find in Iowa because of the amount of farm land there- right? But at least this milk is not ultra processed, which is a good thing.

[Ravin]

Most of the farmland in Iowa is monocultured to grow corn and soybeans.

It sounds like they may be as close to raw as they may be able to get without actually being raw because of legal restrictions? If they're local and you can't find raw it sounds like the next best thing.

[memory maker]

I havent been able to find raw in Iowa either. we are mostly soybeans and corn here

SweetAfton-I dont know where in Iowa you are, but if you are around Des Moines this is a great place to get milk They have tours all the time that we keep meaning to go to, but they are always on weekends we are busy

[JElaineB]

Originally Posted by Nikki98

No this isn't raw milk, because this milk is pasturized, but at least it is not homogenized.
Raw milk is straight from the cow (no pasturization/no homogenization). Really I would think it would be pretty easy to find in Iowa because of the amount of farm land there- right? But at least this milk is not ultra processed, which is a good thing.

I live in Iowa and, no, it isn't easy to find raw milk. The Farmer's All Natural Creamery milk is about the best we can get.

[Nikki98]

I just was thinking that since Iowa seems to have a great number of farms (I have only been to Iowa once) that raw milk may be a little easier to find- sorry about my wrong assumption .

[Nikki98]

Originally Posted by Sihaya

My gut tells me that this is not really raw milk. However, I'm not a milk expert, so someone else may very well disprove me. If it's your only alternative to pasteruized, though, I would go for it.

As far as Iowa and availability of raw milk, the states with the some of the strictest laws are the dairy-producing states (I live in one too!) because the commercial dairy farmers fight hard to keep raw milk out of stores.

Good point!

[SweetAfton]

Originally Posted by memory maker

SweetAfton-I dont know where in Iowa you are, but if you are around Des Moines this is a great place to get milk They have tours all the time that we keep meaning to go to, but they are always on weekends we are busy

I'm in Ames (student at ISU) and have seen 3 kinds of milk at my local HFS:

1. Farmer's All Natural Creamery
2. Picket Fence Creamery
3. Organic Valley

Does Picket Fence Creamery have raw milk?

[SweetAfton]

Ah, I see why I'm having problems

http://www.extension.iastate.edu/NR/...anuary2007.pdf

Got Milk? Use Only Pasteurized
Recently, there has been increased interest in the
consumption of raw milk. Drinking raw milk has
been said to be beneficial to you and is supposedly
tastier that a pasteurized product.
Raw milk has been associated with at least 40
outbreaks of food borne illness in the past 10 years.
A variety of different illness-causing organisms can
be found in raw milk, each of them a life
threatening illness. The people who are most likely
to be made ill include the elderly, pregnant,
immune compromised, and children. Pasteurization
of milk is the only way to prevent these organisms
from reaching these populations.
In Iowa, the sale of raw milk for human
consumption is illegal. However, there appears to
be schemes that are being used to sell the product.
The fact that a cow is only pasture grazed and the
milk is organic does not mean that it is safe to
consume in the raw state. So, the bottom line is
that milk is healthful and nutritious. But if you Got
Milk, make sure it is pasteurized.

And when doing a search for "raw milk" at my school's webpage, there were SO many pages about how raw milk gives people e coli, how bad it is for you, how illegal it is to sell it, etc.

[SweetAfton]

This makes me want to buy a cow.

[memory maker]

Originally Posted by SweetAfton

I'm in Ames (student at ISU) and have seen 3 kinds of milk at my local HFS:

1. Farmer's All Natural Creamery
2. Picket Fence Creamery
3. Organic Valley

Does Picket Fence Creamery have raw milk?

we live in Nevada, so pretty close. My dh works in Ames and thats where I do my shopping. I havent checked with picket fence themselves to see if they sell raw, but Im betting they dont because its illegal. We have always just gotten picket fences because we all think it tastes the best and we know a family member of theirs.

[UUMom]

--Raw milk has been associated with at least 40
outbreaks of food borne illness in the past 10 years.--

It's still more dangerous to eat Taco Bell.

[AJP]

Originally Posted by UUMom

--Raw milk has been associated with at least 40
outbreaks of food borne illness in the past 10 years.--

It's still more dangerous to eat Taco Bell.

Yeah. And those "associations" are often something like a few people taste milk from a holding tank at a farm, milk that was produced and intended for pasteurization (and therefore handled differently than milk produced with the intention of raw consumption) and they get sick from it, or "associated" as in someone with food poisoning tells a medical professional that they had some kind of raw dairy within the past couple of weeks so the dairy is automatically assumed to be the culprit without further investigation. Because raw milk is legally demonized, all it takes is a suggestion or one finger pointed for it to be assumed to be the cause. Illness proven to be caused by raw milk is very rare.