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post #21 of 67
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Originally posted by Hilary Briss
It's nice to have my opinion of Texas and Texans validated.
We're not ALL that way, HB. But then again, some of us also originally come from the northeast (and would love to get back there ASAP).
post #22 of 67
I don't believe everything I read on the internet either, but I also don't believe the #@%$ we are being fed by the mainstream press.

Not every Republican likes Bush. My dh, a die hard MODERATE republican can't wait for '04. He said that it can't come soon enough. He called Bush the other day a facist

(Quote: Fascism is an extreme right-wing ideology which embraces nationalism as the transcendent value of society. The rise of Fascism relies upon the manipulation of populist sentiment in times of national crisis. Based on fundamentalist revolutionary ideas, Fascism defines itself through intense xenophobia, militarism, and supremacist ideals. Although secular in nature, Fascism’s emphasis on mythic beliefs such as divine mandates, racial imperatives, and violent struggle places highly concentrated power in the hands of a self-selected elite from whom all authority flows to lesser elites, such as law enforcement, intellectuals, and the media.) http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15867

It has NOTHING to do with liberal v. conservative. My dh will not hesitate to vote for any democrat next time, regardless of who it is because of Bush.

I think there are many people, republicans included, who are scared to death of the loss of civil rights, the reckless abandon in which $ is being spent, the arrogant neglect of diplomacy, the catering to the corporations, the tax break for the rich, etc.

Take a look at these 2 links. This has been painstakingly pieced together from news reports (reputable news agencies), interviews, and public government documents - some of which are now being supressed. Take the time to read all the way through. You will be shocked and incensed.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...eabridged.html

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...bushon911.html

I agree with Dean. I want my country back!
post #23 of 67
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Not every Republican likes Bush.
You can say that again!
My husband, a lifelong Republican, did NOT vote for Bush and changed his voter registration from Rep to independent. He says his strong environmental convictions and his respect for women/children/education/health care cannot let him be a Republican anymore.
My inlaws, lifelong Southern Conservatives, did not vote for him and have already said will not vote for him next year.
My MIL is a CPA and she goes nuts every time she hears of Dubya's ridiculous tax cuts.
post #24 of 67
Yep, still love the guy. I, too, love all things conservative.
post #25 of 67
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We're not ALL that way, HB. But then again, some of us also originally come from the northeast (and would love to get back there ASAP).
Well, if you're not native, it hardly counts. Let's not even open up the whole nature vs. nurture can of worms.
post #26 of 67
Though I don't quite HATE G. Dubya, I can't say I LOVE him either. I don't agree with much he has done and can't wait until 2004! GO NADER!!

-Sky:
post #27 of 67
>>>GO NADER!!<<<<

Please, please tell me you are not voting for Nadar!?!?

post #28 of 67
T

HB, check out Austin if you ever get the chance. There actually do exist some reasonable, funky leftie natives there.
post #29 of 67

A funny for you all...

Bush vs Bush
post #30 of 67
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HB, check out Austin if you ever get the chance.
I have a friend from grade school that lives in Austin, and he swears by it. Maybe it's the exception that proves the rule?
post #31 of 67
What's wrong with Nader, exactly? :

I'm impressed with those of you whose dh's were/are Republicans and yet obviously have minds and eyes and hearts to see this administration for what it is. You don't have to be a Republican to support Bush--you have to be either a completely uninformed kneejerk conservative or a die-hard right-wing idealogue. Either way, it's dangerous to even consider keeping this guy in office. Even many Republicans are backing away from this admin's actions, saying-- whoa, this isn't representing my beliefs!

You can be a conservative and not support this administration, you know. It would just make you a fairly smart conservative. Those do exist, right? I'd like to believe so.
post #32 of 67
Devi, that was TOO FUNNY! Did anyone else check it out?
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post #33 of 67
Sorry to spoil your image Marlena, but I am a native Austinite and so is dh. Most of the "leftist" here are transplants from up north or out west .

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You don't have to be a Republican to support Bush--you have to be either a completely uninformed kneejerk conservative or a die-hard right-wing idealogue.
WOW!! What an inflammatory remark! I can assure you that I am neither! If fact I know many Democrats and Republicans that support Bush (both here and outside of Texas).

Liberals have been calling conservatives "intolerant and narrow minded" for years. Activism at MDC proves to me that the left is more guilty of those qualities. Name calling and stereotyping based on where someone is from - Real mature! I would guess that most of you don't know any conservatives, or you would not be so quick to make fun of us. I have deep initmate friendships with people from all political spectrums and tolerate and respect them. But I still hold strongly to my convictions, because I truly believe them!

Signing off now and staying away from activism like I normally do!
post #34 of 67
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What's wrong with Nader, exactly?
Nothing is wrong with Nader, the person. In fact, he has done some great thing. What is wrong with Nader, the presidential candidate, is that if he had not intentionally moved votes from Gore to Bush, we would now have Gore in the WH. The Green Party said *specifically* that there was no difference between Bush and Gore in 2000 so vote for them to send a *message.* Do people still think there is no difference. I want Bush *OUT* of the presidency and hate to think of Nader once again pulling votes from a democrat. I think there is a lot wrong with the party system we currently have, but don't think electing Bush is helping!

Kay
post #35 of 67
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I would guess that most of you don't know any conservatives, or you would not be so quick to make fun of us.
Actually, I do have friends that are Republicans. Some that I've known since childhood. We debate all the time, but we are still friends. My best friend is a die hard Republican and I do make fun of her sometimes.
post #36 of 67
don't have to be a Republican to support Bush--you have to be either a completely uninformed kneejerk conservative or a die-hard right-wing idealogue

I don't find this remark imflammitory at all. I find it very accurate.

BTW, I do know republicans, both of parents are. And they support the big business causes that most repubs (and this admin) do. I attribute it to the fantasy life they have where they imagine they are also members of the super rich that would benefit from the cuts. The self hatred that they have for who they are is apparent from the lack of support they give to fellow Americans that are also working class.
post #37 of 67
@TiredX2: I can't vote...to young... Bummer.

-Sky
post #38 of 67
Just curious GothicWiccan, what led you to Mothering.com? Your website says you are 13. I know it's T, but I bet everyone else wants to know too.
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post #39 of 67

Re: A funny for you all...

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Originally posted by Devi
Bush vs Bush

I couldn't view it
post #40 of 67
Yeah...I'm just a kid I was led here because my mom (gentlegreen) is a frequent visitor here and I am often peering over her shoulder and reading diferent posts.

PS what did you think of my website? So far, I've heard "very...um...interesting" and "Very random..." Yeah...I know!

-Sky
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