Desperately need some nt food ideas for my 3yo dd

[ComaWhite]

Please help us, the allergy test results are in and I don't know what to feed my daughter.
The Catch is:
-Shes highly allergic to casein, egg, almond, beans, soy and sunflower
-Shes also allergic to blueberry, grapefruit, orange, coconut, filbert, hazelnut, green peas, squash and zucchini.
-She is mildly allergic to lemon, pineapple, tomato, sugar, buckwheat, corn, lentils, oats and whole wheat.

Ok but she CAN have:
-all meats, shellfish and seafoods
-all other fruits and veggies
-pecan, peanut, walnut
-amaranth, barley, rice, rye, spelt
-cocoa, honey, yeast

We are so lost here and I would appreciate any ideas.
How do you do an NT diet for a picky kid with no casein, no coconut and little to no legumes and grains? She is absolutely devastated about losing her cheese

[elelvee]

Oh boy

Could you send a message to Dr Cowan's "Ask The Doctor"?
He's located in San Francisco. www.fourfoldhealing.com

There's probably a Yahoo group for people/their kids who have allergies. Various WAPF spinoffs, Native Nutrition. I never belonged to them, I just know they exist. I think there's an Allergies group within MDC.

All I would know to do with your restrictions is naturally leavened bread, cod liver oil, and bone broths....anybody else?

[ConsCathMamma]

We do apples and carrots and peanut butter a good bit for snack.

Also, my 2 1/2 year old likes bacon a lot (as do I) for a snack. So, keeping some slab bacon cooked in the fridge to offer as a snack might be a good replacement for a slice of cheese (fat and salty, yk?).

Smoothies of just frozen fruits she can have with cod liver oils and maybe nutritional yeast snuck in.

Rice pudding for cereals.

Does she like soups? Barley and rice are yummy in soups with meat and veggies.

I haven't done this, but ferment the veggies she can have for probiotics to replace those from the yogurt and kefir she can't have.

Quinoa is also a grain tat my toddler loves.

[*Jessica*]

http://www.foodyoucaneat.com/food/Links.php

I'm so sorry! Can you give us an idea of what she usually eats so we can help you find substitutions?

[beka1977]

A different perspective: How lucky your daughter is going to be! Unlike the rest of us who do battle with processed foods, sugar, etc... she will grow up knowing what it is like to eat a healthy diet. It will be second nature for her.

I would suggest that you get out some paper and brainstorm what she can eat. You are going to need a lot of paper - its going to be a very long list. Make it a family project to come up with every food... spices, juices, veggies, meats. Be as specific as possible "cumin, cinnamon, macadamia nuts, pecans...." This list will be your guide for eating. Listing all of the foods she can eat will shift your focus to what is possible. By listing things like spices you will begin to think "Oh, hey, curry powder and chicken... I can do something with that!"

I would suggest that all family members treat this as a fun game, an adventure. You should all try to stick to her diet (at least when with her) as much as possible. Look up lists of foods, like grains, and then work your way through experimenting with each different possibility. Seek out exotic veggies and fruits. For example: Forbidden (Black) Rice is always a big hit in our house because it is yummy, pretty, and very different. Cruise the bulk food bins and learn how to cook everything she can eat. Pay special attention to presentation of foods to make things more fun. Cut chicken into strips and make star shapes. Make towers of fruit stuck together with peanut butter. Have a fondue night with a type of dip she can eat. Aim for fun and she will forget about her missing cheese. Maybe she would like one of those divided plates with something different in each section - this way not everything has to be a cohesive meal. Or perhaps you want to experiment with tapas style dinners - lots of little small plates for everyone to pass around.

I haven't finished reading NT yet, so I don't know all of her dos and don't. However your daughter still has access to the most traditional foods - meats, nuts, veggies, and fruits.

Example day off the top of my head:

Breakfast: Fruit smoothie with vitamin stuff hidden in, bacon,
Snack: Peanut butter on rice crackers, banana
Lunch: Canned chicken/Tuna with apples and grapes mixed in, walnuts, applesauce
Snack: Peanut butter on celery or carrots decorated with raisins, sweet potato "fries" with olive oil, rosemary, honey
Dinner: Large pieces of romaine lettuce to use as wraps for meat and veggies or stir fry. Brown or black rice. Veggie with nutritional yeast sprinkled on top.
Dessert: Frozen berries, flavored ices, or date bars (dates mixed with nuts)

Really, if you look at it like a game, or an artistic challenge there are a lot of possibilities. Clearly you need to "mourn" what you have lost, but there is plenty to move on to...

[JaneS]

How did you determine strong vs. mild allergies?

For the mildly allergic foods, I would recommend doing a rotation diet. DS has many food allergies and that's is what we are doing right now. If you have a deficient immune system and leaky gut, any food at this age given to excess is likely to provoke more immune reactions. For that reason I would stay far away from peanuts at this age.

Did you check both cow and goat casein? They are different.

French Meadow European Rye, Spelt and White Spelt breads are awesome and phytate free.

You want to do bone broths as much as possible for the glutamine to heal gut. Also consider evening primrose oil for the EFA's that heal too.

We heard from our allergy clinician that most people react to quinoa for some weird reason so go carefully on that one.

Sweet potato, especially the white kind if you can find it, might be a good staple for breakfast for example. Bfasts are the hardest for us it seems.

[saratc]

Along the lines of pp suggestions, I have started a brainstorming list for you:

Veggies:
* Asparagus
* Avocados
* Beets
* Bell peppers
* Broccoli
* Brussels sprouts
* Cabbage
* Carrots
* Cauliflower
* Celery
* Chard
* Collard greens
* Cucumbers
* Eggplant
* Garlic
* Kale
* Leeks
* Lettuce
* Mushrooms
* Mustard greens
* Olives
* Onions
* Parsley
* Potatoes
* Spinach
* Sweet potatoes/yams
* Swiss chard

Fruits
* Apples
* Apricots
* Bananas
* Cantaloupe
* Cranberries
* Figs
* Grapes
* Kiwifruit
* Papaya
* Pears
* Plums
* Raspberries
* Strawberries
* Watermelon

Dairy
* Eggs

Beans & Legumes
* Black beans
* Chickpeas
* Kidney beans
* Lima beans
* Navy beans
* Pinto beans

Nuts & Seeds
* Chia Seeds
* Flaxseeds
Did you test pumpkin seeds, cashews, and sesame?

Grains not already mentioned
* Millet

Assuming the sugar tested was based on cane sugar, here's some sweeteners you should be able to use:
* Agave Nectar
* Honey
* Maple syrup
* Stevia

It's a great plus you didn't lose cocoa! There was a recipe somewhere around here for brownies made with black beans instead of flour.

This doesn't help much for cheese in sandwiches, but nutritional yeast makes a great cheeselike flavoring in sauces and sprinkled over food.

[Rachel J.]

There's a GFCF NT yahoo group that you might find helpful. They have some recipes on file and I'm sure you could get aome good ideas and support there.

[ComaWhite]

Ok Im trying to reply to everyone here, hope I don't miss anything

Originally Posted by *Jessica*

http://www.foodyoucaneat.com/food/Links.php

I'm so sorry! Can you give us an idea of what she usually eats so we can help you find substitutions?

Thank you for the link, I checked it out and got some amaranth recipes I will try. The only foods she will eat without a fight is bread, crackers and chocolate. She has always been a very fussy eater.

Originally Posted by ConsCathMamma

We do apples and carrots and peanut butter a good bit for snack.

Also, my 2 1/2 year old likes bacon a lot (as do I) for a snack. So, keeping some slab bacon cooked in the fridge to offer as a snack might be a good replacement for a slice of cheese (fat and salty, yk?).

Smoothies of just frozen fruits she can have with cod liver oils and maybe nutritional yeast snuck in.

Rice pudding for cereals.

Does she like soups? Barley and rice are yummy in soups with meat and veggies.

I haven't done this, but ferment the veggies she can have for probiotics to replace those from the yogurt and kefir she can't have.

Quinoa is also a grain tat my toddler loves.

Good ideas that I hadn't thought of, thank you!

Originally Posted by JaneS

How did you determine strong vs. mild allergies?

For the mildly allergic foods, I would recommend doing a rotation diet. DS has many food allergies and that's is what we are doing right now. If you have a deficient immune system and leaky gut, any food at this age given to excess is likely to provoke more immune reactions. For that reason I would stay far away from peanuts at this age.

Did you check both cow and goat casein? They are different.

French Meadow European Rye, Spelt and White Spelt breads are awesome and phytate free.

You want to do bone broths as much as possible for the glutamine to heal gut. Also consider evening primrose oil for the EFA's that heal too.

We heard from our allergy clinician that most people react to quinoa for some weird reason so go carefully on that one.

Sweet potato, especially the white kind if you can find it, might be a good staple for breakfast for example. Bfasts are the hardest for us it seems.

We had an IgG blood test done for 96 food items. It had a scale of how severe the reaction was to each food. Our naturopath told us to to competly avoid all traces of the "high" and "moderate" reaction foods, and that we could slowly and occasionally introduce the "low" reaction foods after a few months of gut healing and then retest again this summer.
She reacted off the charts to ALL dairy, cheese, yogurt, even goats milk.
Im having trouble finding a spelt bread at all, or a rye bread without wheat flour in it. I might have to experiment with making my own.
Thanks for the heads-up on the quinoa.

Originally Posted by saratc

Along the lines of pp suggestions, I have started a brainstorming list for you:

Dairy
* Eggs
Beans & Legumes
* Black beans
* Chickpeas
* Kidney beans
* Lima beans
* Navy beans
* Pinto beans
Did you test pumpkin seeds, cashews, and sesame?

Grains not already mentioned
* Millet
It's a great plus you didn't lose cocoa! There was a recipe somewhere around here for brownies made with black beans instead of flour.

This doesn't help much for cheese in sandwiches, but nutritional yeast makes a great cheeselike flavoring in sauces and sprinkled over food.

She reacted to kidney, lima, sting, pinto and soy beans so I don't want to give her any beans. They did not test for pumpkin seeds, cashews, and sesame. Thanks for the nutritional yeast suggestion, I didnt realize that you could use it for cheese-like recipes.

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The problem we are having now is that because we changed her diet so drastically, she is resisting pretty hard. We took her shopping yesterday and picked out $150 worth of food at the market and the healthfood store. She seemed pretty excied by picking out everything, but once we got home she started begging and crying for chocolate and dh's bread. She hasnt eaten anything since. We made a smoothy yesterday together with frozen strawberries, a banana and rice milk and she wouldnt drink any. I made her a really yummy breakfast porrige with millet, rice milk, ghee and maple syrup and she wouldnt taste even a bite. Made a winter root soup with chicken stock and she wouldnt taste even a bite. I made punmkin seeds with the crispy nuts recipe for her and i think she had 2 and decided she didnt like them. She doesnt want the crispy walnuts because they are not almonds. She eagerly toasted and spread a piece of GF rice-bread with ghee and jam and then took a bite and wouldnt eat the rest.
Im indredibly frustrated here, I dont want to get into power struggles about food, but she refuses to try anything new here and only wants to binge on sugar and carbs she cant have.
Should I just wait out her hunger and eventually shell eat? Shes so tiny and skinny already that its stressing me out that she wont eat. And shes SOOOOO crabby because shes SOOOO hungry.

ETA: I wnted to add that we tried the Feingold diet, gluten free diet and the SCD diet before this blood allergy testing so i think shes feeling very confused by being told all the time what she can/cant have and have that changing all the time.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by andrea

Im having trouble finding a spelt bread at all, or a rye bread without wheat flour in it. I might have to experiment with making my own.

Certain French Meadow breads are 100% rye, spelt, kamut ... no wheat.
http://www.frenchmeadow.com/products-wheatfree.htm

[ComaWhite]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Certain French Meadow breads are 100% rye, spelt, kamut ... no wheat.
http://www.frenchmeadow.com/products-wheatfree.htm

I just sent them an email regarding canadian sales, but Im not entirely sure that they do. Does anyone have any Canadian sources? Spelt tortillas sound really great!!!!