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post #21 of 30
Yes, children are just so inconvenient, aren't they? Why do people like that have kids? I'm sorry breastfeeding was so unpleasant for her, but that doesn't justify the stance she has taken. It's too bad she couldn't find a good lactation consultant instead of, not only giving up herself, but trying to convince as many other women as possible to give up or not even try. In a desperate attempt to free herself from guilt, she has turned all her negative energy against breastfeeding and women who breastfeed. She has done a great disservice to a society that needs, more than anything, encouragement to breastfeed and support for breastfeeding mothers. That article is the last thing people need to be reading. How dare that b**** accuse us of breastfeeding just because we want to make a point or be competitive! She obviously doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. It is irresponsible for her to write such rubbish and irresponsible for the paper to print it. Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.

queen620, that woman wasn't calling you a bad mother. She was just proud of her accomplishment, and she should be proud. If a mother told me she never gave a bottle or a pacifier, I would say "That's great!" and I would feel very proud of her, even though I have NOT accomplished that myself (I gave occasional pacifiers and bottles of juice). I would not turn it around into a negative judgment against myself. If another mother told you that her child was chosen for the lead in the school play, you would say "That's great! You must be so proud!" You wouldn't think that what she really meant is "How come YOUR child wasn't chosen for the lead?"
post #22 of 30
I agree with Veganmama.

I had a conversation not to long ago with a neigbor. I said something to her about helping the woman across the street to nurse her twins when they arrived. Both women were pregnant and the topic came up.

This woman has had her baby and from our previous conversation I knew she didn't nurse her first 2 and wasn't going to nurse this one either.

When I mentioned that her neighbor really was committed to breastfeeding the twins, all she could say was, "why would anyone want to do that, it hurts, it hard to do and it will be impossible for her to nurse 2 at a time. She shouldn't even bother".

When I tried to defend breastfeeding she kept coming up with excuses, so I just dropped it and never talked to her again about it. Sometimes its pretty useless to try and if she feels bad its not my fault. She started up with the insults about breastfeeding and all I did was offer the facts about breastfeeding. I never even brought up the word formula. So her guilt if she even felt any is all hers.

I see the baby now everyday when she picks up her son from kindergarten (our children are in the same class) and the baby is always in the stroller plugged up with a pacifier.

The woman with twins (they are now 2 months) are nursing beautfully
post #23 of 30
drivel. my sil lives in soho - she is beyond single so nowhere near children, but this is so her and her crowd. the sex in the city bit. so sad. so many women missing out on so much...
post #24 of 30
Ya know i do consider it a badge of honor. DD was in the NICU wouldn't latch had reactive attatchement disorder and sensory integration and wouldn't even ask to eat. it would have been easier to get a purple heart than to nurse that child. But bottle feeding just wasn't an option (didn't have the money before she was born and certainly didn't have the money after the uninsureds NICu stay) #2 had a short frenulum that we couldn't get clipped until she was two months. That was like two months of purple nurples every time she nirsed., i cried through every feeding but again, quitting was not an option.

Does this make me better than someone else? No. But it sure beats the hell out of the me I used to be before I had someone worth fighting for, worth suffering for. It is my honor to serve my children through breastfeeding them.

is it a competion? No, ut I need to run the good race in all that O do for ny childen.

Did i sacrifice anything? Well, yeah, you can't not secrafice stuff when you have kids.

Scared to quit? Wel that is an intresting prespective. better tyhan being scared to continue. It isn't like I am addicted. It isn't like I disn't do the happy dance the day Lily (little miss never gonna wean ) took her last sip. I can't say thatever felt to scared to quit. That is just silly.

All I can say about the author. All i got to say is WHAAA! poor you!!!
post #25 of 30
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Originally posted by lilyka

Scared to quit? Wel that is an intresting prespective. better tyhan being scared to continue.
That is what irritated me most about that. It isn't self sacrifice, you're just scared not to do it. Well, whoop-de-doo, it was never my intention to make some huge sacrifice, I just wanted to feed my child the best way I could. Scared not to breastfeed? Uh, yeah! That's how she eats, she would not take a bottle, and once I had the experience of feeding breastmilk to my child, I didn't want to use formula, it's certainly not something I would fight to switch her to if I had no need. The author is just plain daft! Or maybe she works for the formula companies and is daring breastfeeders not to be afraid of formula.

I read an article once about how the media publishing the studies that show breastfeeding is better than formula feeding is a bad thing because it makes mothers who couldn't do it feel badly about themselves, and the media should be supporting new moms instead of making their jobs harder. I dunno, that isn't really the role of the media. They certainly don't mind running formula ads.

I never think that I am a better mom than someone else because I breastfed and she didn't. There is so much involved in this. I just like to meet other breastfeeding moms because it is a point of similarity and I think we all look for those. I will admit that I feel bad when I see a baby sitting on the floor in a carseat with a bottle propped in his mouth when the mom could be holding him and feeding him the bottle. But even then I don't think, "wow, what a bad mom" although I might think she isn't very well informed, or perhaps is just overwhelmed.

I will admit that I can feel bad when I see others doing things that I feel like I should be doing too. Like when I see people out walking and I realize I haven't done my exercise for the day, I start to feel guilty. The other day we drove up to Lake Tahoe, and we passed many very athletic bicyclists pumping their way up these steep hills. I asked my husband, "Doesn't it make you feel bad about yourself when you see those really fit people on bicycles?" My husband said, "No, I know I'm fat and sedentary, I feel darn good that I'm in the car and not out there on that bike." He really doesn't care, but I do.

I think there are formula using moms that honestly don't care either, but then there are some who feel badly that breastfeeding didn't work and are breastfeeding advocates who go on to breastfeed other children, but still feel bad about the child who was weaned early, or not breastfed. I don't want moms to feel bad, but I don't think that not publishing studies that show that breastfeeding has benefits over formula is going to make someone feel any better about themselves.
post #26 of 30
Nipple nazi????wtf????

I keep hearing about the pushy self righteous nursing moms but i haven't met any yet.

Honestly, though. Our culture is so not supportive of breast feeding, that to stick with it and be fearless and proud about nursing, sometimes you have to cop a little bit of an attitude just to counteract the crap! it just baffles me to read crap like this that makes it seem like breast feeding moms are somehow oppressing ff moms. As if. When was the last time someone got kicked out of anywhere for feeding their baby with a bottle?

grrr.
post #27 of 30
This woman is so defensive!

The thing is, she can think breastfeeding sucks (no pun intended, hee hee) and write whatever the hell she wants about her own experience, but it pisses me off that she goes so far as to assume that anyone who does not agree with her is lying. As far as I'm concerned, that's the most judgemental thing a person can do - assume that anyone who does not share their opinion is wrong, crazy, or full of sh*t.

It is a shame that there are going to be people who read this and assume she's right, though.
post #28 of 30
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Originally posted by LunaMom
The thing is, she can think breastfeeding sucks (no pun intended, hee hee) and write whatever the hell she wants about her own experience, but it pisses me off that she goes so far as to assume that anyone who does not agree with her is lying.

EXACTLY!!!

AAARRRRRGGGGGG!!!
post #29 of 30

My first post here...

Whats funny is that most FF moms that haven't BF or didn't for very long don't understand the emotional reasons why a lot of women BF. BFing is soo much more than just the best food for your child. Its a way to heal them when they get hurt, relax them when they get overtired, put them to sleep when they are having trouble doing it on their own, calm them when they get overwhelmed, sometimes its even a way for the child to reassure himself that mother loves him and will do anything for him. It really does create such a special and unique bond between child and mother. THAT IS WHAT KEEPS THE NURSING MOTHER GOING. It has nothing to do with fear. But of course, most FF mothers don't understand that because bottlefeeding is JUST about feeding.
Okay, I am done know, just had to add my 2cents!!
post #30 of 30
Quote:
Originally posted by Firemom


The woman with twins (they are now 2 months) are nursing beautfully
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