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post #1 of 17
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My 11 yr old son just asked me that. : (just a little backstory, he is circ'd...I was 16 when he was born and my parents told me it had to be done, I didn't even know there was a choice in the matter. : )

Coincidently I was changing his little brother's diap (baby is intact ) when he asked me the question. My heart skipped a few beats, I breathed in deep, exhaled and very calmly explained to him what circ was. I told him that he was and that his baby brother is not. I explained to him why I had circ'd him and why I had not circ'd his brother. Ugh, talk about heartbreaking. :

He is a very sensitive, very intelligent boy and was/is outraged. I told him that I deeply regretted having it done to him and that I was sorry. He said he didn't blame me, he knows I'd never hurt him on purpose. He said how stupid circ is and that people who do it to little babies should be arrested and thrown in jail.

He asked if his foreskin is gone forever. I said that no, when he's an adult he can look into restoring it. He said "good, I can't wait, I don't want to look damaged all my life!" He talked to the baby and told him how lucky he was and told him that he had a perfect little penis. I feel bad that he feels "damaged"...that's not what I want him to think of himself, yk? But what do I say?

I've been waiting for this day to come since the baby was born and I made the decision to leave him intact. I knew that there would come a day when ds1 would question it. I choked back tears as I explained it to him but i think I did a good job. He's definitely an intactivist now though, that's for sure, so at least his sons' foreskins will be saved.
post #2 of 17
What a sweet, sensitive, smart kid.

By the way, I am jealous of your daughter's beautiful red curls.
post #3 of 17
you have a very smart and sensitive son and I am glad he does not blame you for this happening. And all 4 of your children are lovely...thanks for sharing the info..
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by caricandothis View Post
He said "good, I can't wait, I don't want to look damaged all my life!" He talked to the baby and told him how lucky he was and told him that he had a perfect little penis. I feel bad that he feels "damaged"...that's not what I want him to think of himself, yk? But what do I say?
This made me cry a bit. I'm so sorry for you and your son. It's so nice to hear that he is so confident in your love for him that he knows you would never have done anything to hurt him.

post #5 of 17
Your post has me really crying. I hurt for you and your ds. Damn circ. I just want to give you both a big hug. You are an awesome mama to be so honest with him. It sounds like you did a good job of talking to him. Your sweet ds is so insightful.

PS you have beautiful children!!!!!
post #6 of 17
Wow - thanks for posting. your son is awesome, and so are you for being so honest with him. And you know what - I think its far healthier for your son to look at things clearly and see that his penis has been damaged - that he IS missing something he should have. One of the reasons that circ continues so strongly is that the circ'd adult male population isn't outraged enough at what was done to them. You can revel in the fact that your son will protect your grandsons.
post #7 of 17
I also got really teary eyed and had to force back tears (don't want to upset my 3yo sitting next to me). One day I will have to have a similiar conversation with DS#1, I really hope he responds the same way yours did. He seems so sweet, yet so smart to understand what was done to him, but still realize that you did it out of ignorance and you didn't mean to hurt him.

I also think it is really awesome that he already wants to restore and "can't wait" till he can. What is a 'good age' to suggest someone start the process? Physically would it be better if he started before puberty so he has some extra skin to prevent possible problems from a tight circ? (which is the kind of circ DS#1 has) I can already see how tight the skin is when he has an erection. I have quite a few years that I have to deal with that I want to be prepared.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thank you all so much for the replies. I've been a bit teary this afternoon about the whole thing too, regretting it all over again and feeling so sad for my ds. He really is a wonderful kid, a gift that I was given so young, and I am so lucky to have him. I tell him every day how lucky I am to be his mama.

Oh and thanks for the comments on my kiddos. : I think they're pretty cute too.
post #9 of 17


I think you handled it well. Your son sounds like a sweetheart and it's wonderful that he'll protect his little boys from being circumcised! At least this will end with him. And he knows about restoration which will be a great advantage to him (and his future partners) when he is old enough to start seriously thinking about it

love and peace.
post #10 of 17
I'm so sorry for you and your little smart boy .
Please tell this heartbreaking story to your patents. I think they have to apologize to your little boy as well. And to you too. Giving an advice is a huge responsibility especially when we are talking about somebody else’s body part. I hate people who give advices about something they have no clue about! I can only imagine how it breaks your heart now. A lot of hugs to you mama.
post #11 of 17
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That had to be such a difficult moment as a mom, I think you handled it very well.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by caricandothis View Post
He asked if his foreskin is gone forever. I said that no, when he's an adult he can look into restoring it.
Unfortunately, that's not quite true. His real foreskin is gone forever. If it were possible to truly restore a real, fully functional foreskin then much of my problem with circumcision would be allayed.

The real foreskin can never be restored. But extra skin that will look like a foreskin can be. It will completely lack the lost-forever specialized sensory tissue, but it will be more-or-less functional in most other ways.

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Originally Posted by caricandothis View Post
I feel bad that he feels "damaged"...that's not what I want him to think of himself, yk? But what do I say?
The thing is, he is damaged. So it's an accurate--albeit harsh--way for him to think of his penis. So yeah, there's not much you can say, unfortunately.

I'm sorry you and your son had to go through this. Aside from (what I consider to be) the somewhat misleading comment about foreskin restoration, I think you handled it very well.



Edit:

Oh, and I applaud you for leaving your second son intact, despite having circed your first. That took guts. Good job!
post #13 of 17
He's 11, I think she handled it in a pretty age appropriate way and if he wants she can go into specifics when he's a bit older.
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
Blarg, thank you for your reply. I understand that his actual foreskin is gone forever and that restoring isn't going to bring it back but when he asked that question (one I didn't anticipate an 11 yr old asking!) I answered it the best I could. I actually showed him on his little brother what the foreskin is and told him the best I knew how what had been taken away (from him) and what restoring would do. I'm no expert so I'm sure what I told him wasn't entirely 100% accurate, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, yk?

It was a very emotional conversation and with an 11 yr old who is just entering puberty and is full of questions anyway, quite an awkward one as well.

Thank you again to everyone who replied. It's so nice to get encouragement and support.
post #15 of 17
I think you handled this (very difficult) converation very very well I really wish dh's parents were so open and honest with him when he was younger (so that he didn't first learn about circ as an adult, left wondering why his parents had it done to him). Another for you and your son
post #16 of 17
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"He said how stupid circ is and that people who do it to little babies should be arrested and thrown in jail."

post #17 of 17

Don't feel bad

Don't feel bad. When he's older, point him to:

http://frcchat.org/phpBB2

There are one or two restorers there under 18, though it is generally not recommended to start very much below age 18.

He'll thank you for it.

I wish my mother had half as much honesty and sincerety as you did when I found out and asked my mom.

Don't let guilt hang over you like a cloud. Your explanation was heartfelt, I think he recognizes this.


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