Insurance company pro-intact?

[Kristine233]

I thought this was interesting... I just received information on policy changes for the MN state provided insurance. As of Jan 2007 Circumcision is no longer covered unless deemed medically necessary or a long history of proven religious reasons. Routine circ is no longer covered.

This doesn't really apply to us as my DS is now almost 6 (and was circ'd.. sorry, lol) but I thought you all may find this new info interesting. The start of a trend amoung insurance companies.

[Fyrestorm]

Medicade in many states have ceased coverage of RIC. Thank the Gods!!! \

Keep 'em commin!!!!

[jessjgh1]

Kristine....

Private insurance or medicair????

Just curious because if someone made it happen for a private insurer, it would be great to get the ball rolling on that with other insurers, just as it is being done with medicaire.

Jessica

[Getz]

Probably, more pro-save some money versus pro-intact, but it is saves some foreskins and people start realizing that having whole sons is not to freak out about, I say more power to them! I wish every state (especially the conservative midwest) would stop paying for circumcision!

[eepster]

It makes perfect sence circ is cosmrtic surgery my insurance won't pay for a boob job or a nose job why should it pay for circ.

[buckeyedoc]

I hope Ohio stops covering it, even if it's only for financial reasons. At least parents will have to realize it isn't being covered because it isn't an essential procedure. I saw this quote in the Columbus Dispatch last year:

"Bill Tulloss of the Cincinnati suburb of Evendale is lobbying Ohio to join the movement. Medicaid pays for one-third of Ohio births.

"It is just crazy that Medicaid is spending taxpayer money on something that is not necessary at a time when Medicaid expenditures are bankrupting the state," said Tulloss, a retired college math professor and a member of the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers.

The Ohio Medicaid program spent $4 million in federal and state money during the past three fiscal years to cover almost 62,000 circumcisions.

"It’s one of our smallest expenditures," said Dennis Evans, spokesman for the Department of Job and Family Services."

http://www.cirp.org/news/columbusdispatch01-15-06/

[Fi.]

or a long history of proven religious reasons.

Why would anyone with a "or a long history of proven religious reasons" even be trying to get the state to pay for a circ considering they don't use doctors? That doesn't make any sense.

[KMK_Mama]

One of the Moms from my DD's pre-school just told me the other day that the insurance she had at the time of her sons birth didn't pay for circ...I think it was Aetna. She was pissed off because she had to pay $500 for his circ. :

I was so shocked I didn't say anything. She knows my son is intact but has never asked why. If she did, I would probably clam up and not be able to talk anyways!

Oh yeah, I have Health Net and they don't cover circ either. Yay! My friend who had the same insurance at the time payed $150 I think.

[bbrandonsmom]

Wow, makes me want to check Fl's insurance. That's interesting and great news I think. If your insurance won't cover it, then people are either going to get mad that they're paying a nice $500 bill for it or realize it's not needed. I think a lot of it is pressure to look like dad etc, and I think that's sad.

[hunnybumm]

Originally Posted by eepster

It makes perfect sence circ is cosmrtic surgery my insurance won't pay for a boob job or a nose job why should it pay for circ.

We really need to "watch our language""
Costmetic surgery:

1. plastic surgery for improving a person's appearance by restoration of damaged areas of skin, removal of wrinkles or blemishes, etc.
-Dictionary.com

1. plastic surgery to remove wrinkles and other signs of aging from your face; an incision is made near the hair line and skin is pulled back and excess tissue is excised
-WordNet(R) 2.1 (C) 2005 Princeton University

1. Surgery that modifies or improves the appearance of a physical feature, irregularity, or defect.
-Notice "surgery" in that
-The American Heritage (R) Dictionary

Originally Posted by KMK_Mama

One of the Moms from my DD's pre-school just told me the other day that the insurance she had at the time of her sons birth didn't pay for circ...I think it was Aetna. She was pissed off because she had to pay $500 for his circ. :

I was so shocked I didn't say anything. She knows my son is intact but has never asked why. If she did, I would probably clam up and not be able to talk anyways!

Oh yeah, I have Health Net and they don't cover circ either. Yay! My friend who had the same insurance at the time payed $150 I think.

I really feel for that mom, having to pay $500 to have her son mutilated and your other friend for having to pay $150. : What kind of world are we living in? Thankfully a slightly better one!

Medicaid in NC also does not cover circ (well, at least in my town, not sure if it's a state thing or what)! Yay!

I know that Tricare (military Isn.) does pay for it, I say THANK YOU to them for helping to mutilate my first son. : If I had been told it would cost me $500 out of pocket, I wouldn't have had it done. We wouldn't have had the money! My son would still have his forskin.

Now, Tricare is somehow associated with Health Net because I have had to call Tricare and have them transfer me to Health Net Federal Services when I was trying to get my freestanding birth center covered (only 50% but better than nothing). Does that mean that Health Net does pay for circ?

[saucebox]

Ins co's are pro-anything that saves them money, so duh!

[eviesingleton]

Originally Posted by saucebox

Ins co's are pro-anything that saves them money, so duh!

Then why are they so slow to cover a $4000 homebirth but will gladly cover a $10,000+ hospital birth?

[Minky]

Does anyone other then me find the "and was circed, sorry, lol" in the first post real disturbing?

[Treece]

i do but i dont know where to start.

ya know, aetna (in ok in 2004) doesn't cover circ, i think. our docs told us that it would cost 250 to circ my son, ok well, that and his intact dad was why we didn't. if not for either of those, i'm afraid iwould have circed him but NOW i am adamantly intactavist.

[trmpetplaya]

Originally Posted by Minky

Does anyone other then me find the "and was circed, sorry, lol" in the first post real disturbing?

*raises hand* Also quite off-colour and inappropriate, IMO.

My private insurance that I got through working at a local bank didn't pay for circumcision. The two closest hospitals here don't even perform RIC anymore. I don't know if they still do adult circumcisions, but they won't do infants

love and peace.

[Selesai]

I had Aetna when my son was born (2006) and they still covered RIC then.

[Telle Bear]

Originally Posted by Minky

Does anyone other then me find the "and was circed, sorry, lol" in the first post real disturbing?

YES, but I'm going to let it go since we can't "hear tone", and the topic is such a good and postive one for us intactavist...I don't want to get caught off the topic.

[4stgal]

My best friend works for an insurance company (my insurance company) and he said there has been a debate on whether or not to cover RIC for a while. So far, they still cover it til 6wks, but bf is fighting to have them stop. I hope they do cause I think a lot of RIC would stop if people had to pay out of pocket for it.

[trmpetplaya]

Originally Posted by 4stgal

My best friend works for an insurance company (my insurance company) and he said there has been a debate on whether or not to cover RIC for a while. So far, they still cover it til 6wks, but bf is fighting to have them stop. I hope they do cause I think a lot of RIC would stop if people had to pay out of pocket for it.

That's why Elvis was intact His mom couldn't afford to pay for it...

love and peace.