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post #21 of 524
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Originally Posted by magstphil View Post
question- do you think other spiritual practices can be incorporated into our lives? not meaning like take over the principles of the gospel but i am a firm believer that truth is everywhere and in everything. an example would be LOA. that, in itself, is a spiritual belief/practice but i feel it can go hand in hand with the gospel. i once had a sister tell me and her daughter that meditation was bad because it wasn't from *our* beliefs. my personal thought is one can use meditation and creative visualization to exercise the mind, help with personal growth, organize thoughts, and calm. i just don't feel it takes away from the Spirit. but it has been debated in my personal life so much by people near me i was just wondering how you all felt.
Maggie, I believe LOA and meditation and other beliefs/practices that have merit, came from the gospel/church at one point or another, perhaps hundreds of years ago.

That's my quick answer, we're making lunch here!
post #22 of 524
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Originally Posted by Bekka View Post
Anyway, when I started reading on MDC and other places about natural family living, so much of it seemed to gel with gospel principles, like W of W, gentle discipline (some flavors), providential living, etc. that I jumped on the bandwagon with both feet. As I started reading books and websites, I started to pay _too much_ attention to the details of NFL and less attention to the *gospel.* After a while I got back into reading scriptures and realized that I'd let the little details crowd out the truths.
Umm, I don't think it is truths OR the gospel. If it's true, than it's part of the gospel. For instance, in Boy Scouts, the things that Boy Scouts upholds are gospel principles. (Truth, Honor, Preparedness, etc.) As far as gentle discipline, that is the gospel too. We are supposed to use gentle discipline techniques on everyone, lol, that's what Jesus would do! As far as nutrition, thats WoW . . . and so on and so forth. So I don't see them as separate at all.

That said, the gospel BASICS require more attention. Daily prayer and repentance and scripture study for instance.
post #23 of 524
I'm Heidi. I'm almost 37. Been married for almost 18 yrs. Have 7 children, ages 16-5 weeks old. Been a member my whole life. Married in the Dallas Temple. Married an RM. Served in Primary & YW before, and currently the Ward Music Chairperson/chorister & Relief Society Secretary. We delay vax, and we circ.

Anyway, enough with me. My parents are here this weekend for Joseph's blessing. We've been having fun, and my house is proof enough...we haven't cleaned this whole weekend, and there are toys and crapola everywhere! : We will be cleaning tomorrow after church. I can't stand a messy house when everyone leaves.

Lindsey is sick, but she is still going to church tomorrow because of the blessing and because of the fact that my parents drove 6 hrs to get here. I just won't let her attend nursery. She will go to class with me or DH.

DH & I are going out tonight with my parents. We are going Chinese. I am so excited. Haven't been out for a while without kids. Need a break.
post #24 of 524
I am Serenity, 24. Married to Bryan, we have three beautiful children. Our oldest is in Kindergarten (one of 15 or 17 K classes). We had planned to homeschool, but PPD smacked me on my butt and I am still just starting to recover. We also have an almost 4 year old and a 20 month old. Dh just got a new job, for the person who asked in the last thread (sorry I can't remember who) it's exactly what he was doing before, what he loves, industrial electrical maintenance. Basically he fixes the electrical stuff on the machines in factories. The new job is a HUGE HUGE blessing, more money, a 15 minute commute insteaad of the old 1 hour commute, and insruance that starts the day he starts work. So nice!
post #25 of 524
yey serenity that if fabulous news! better commute! better money! and he loves what he does! you can't ask for better than that.
post #26 of 524
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Originally Posted by LionTigerBear View Post
Umm, I don't think it is truths OR the gospel. If it's true, than it's part of the gospel. For instance, in Boy Scouts, the things that Boy Scouts upholds are gospel principles. (Truth, Honor, Preparedness, etc.) As far as gentle discipline, that is the gospel too. We are supposed to use gentle discipline techniques on everyone, lol, that's what Jesus would do! As far as nutrition, thats WoW . . . and so on and so forth. So I don't see them as separate at all.

That said, the gospel BASICS require more attention. Daily prayer and repentance and scripture study for instance.
But what I was saying was that the *details* were the problem. I was stressing over which kind of cloth diapers to buy. And trying to get other people to see things my way. And stressing because we couldn't afford to buy organic all the time if we wanted any variety in our diet. And reading so much about vax and freaking out and panicking that I wasn't leaving any space in my heart or time in my schedule for the gospel, which include the basics. Some may disagree, but I believe that different people may get a different answer to the vax question. OR whatever. And the gospel truths that could be had, even in all these other sources, were getting lost in the noise. That's all.

(: I'm all full of really bad figures of speech today ...)
post #27 of 524
HI Everyone
I am Jenn ,28 married to DH -Dan 27 for 2 years (1/24/05) we were sealed last year on 2/18/06 in the Oakland Temple. Our DS is Isaac he is 11 months on Monday. We are still mostly bf ,very little solids , co-sleeping and back on the CD wagon after a short sposie break : . We are starting to eat better , use whole wheat pastas ,brown rice etc. , eat more veggies. Now if we can just incoprate in the walking we will be set : I am currently inactive have not been to church in a month so I am considered inactive . We have been omitting alot of what we should be doing, prayer ,ss , fhe .. we are trying to start doing all of that again. We are going to church tomorrow though. I am supposed to be teaching primary -CTR6 , but have not felt right about it , I emailed the primary pres and counselor they are my friends and they have a sub for me. I am not sure what to do their .. i need to do my calling ...
I know what I am supposed to do , I was raised in the church and I know where I need to be. I just need to learn how to manage my $ better and live more simply . (back away from the cd websites ) ... anyhow i love this thread and am going to try and keep up with it this time :
post #28 of 524
hi! that other thread got ahead of me so fast, I'll just introduce myself again... I'm Chrissy, my kids are 4 months, 23 months, and 4. My husband and I are converts.

Currently, I am in a whirlwind of activity to get needed services for my oldest who has several neurological issues. things are really looking good right now as far as getting some good answers and interventions very soon.
post #29 of 524
Heidi, my dd is being blessed tomorrow too! We had her sealed today in the Bountiful Temple! It was so wonderful! My son cried through his entire sealing, but this time around, they were both angels. DD was smiling and happy the whole time, and ds had a great experience too. Though he was ticked because he didn't get to see all the rooms he'd seen pictures of in the books we showed him.

I am Lisa, age 37 in a month (is anyone here old than Heidi and me?), married for 11.5 years and mother of two, ds age 4.5, and dd age 6.5 months. Both of my children are adopted, and right now my heart is full thinking of the wonderful blessings they've been in our life, and of the wonderful birthmoms who sacrificed for them.

Bekka, I agree with your thoughts about AP/NFL and the gospel. I find myself answering to this "philosophy" instead of having the gospel be my standard sometimes. I agree that there are many things within AP and NFL that fit perfectly with the gospel, but there is danger when we hold one above the other as far as our loyalties go.
post #30 of 524
I'm Alisa. NCDaddy and I are mad passionate lovers. Sh! Don't tell our spouses! :
post #31 of 524
Alisa, you made me giggle!
Another quick intro- I'm Kelly, 21, married to Damian, 26 (RM, Mexico) for 3 years. We have 1 dd, Isabel, 22 months, and are TTC #2.

So... No church here today! My entire Stake cancelled today, because we are in the middle of what the News is calling the "Blizzard of 2007." We've had something like 14 inches of snow in like 12 hours, and 30-50 mph winds. Also, we're having record setting cold temps. It's great fun here is West Michigan! Although, the slacker in me doesn't mind the cancellation, b/c I worked 3rd shift Saturday (I'm actually still there!) So now I get to go home and sleep for like 7 hours instead of 2!


Hope Everyone else has a wonderful and peaceful Sunday!

-Kelly
post #32 of 524
Okay, so Primary is going better and better. We are definitely following most of the things our predecessors do, so it's nice not to have to build from the ground up, just rip out a wall, put up new curtains, etc.

Anyway, just wanted to comment on the COOL song. The kids learned it for the Primary presentation last year. I just don't think it would have flown when I was a kid! It's pretty jazzy and less "trational." I remember my dad thinking that The Lord Needs Valiant Servants was too ??????? something.

But this new song was from the Friend in around 93 or 1996.

"We are children, holding hands around the world
Like an army ..... (still learning the lyrics)
We will do what is right, we will follow his light,
We are building the kingdom of God!"

OR something like that. Very inspirational, and the kids totally stand up and sway: "We are children (clap) holding hands around the world
Like an army (clap) ..."

It's very cool, and even the kids who hate Primary music really seem to "get" this song and love it. Almost like Armies of Helaman. I just think that some kids really dislike "Little Lambs so white and fair ..." and the like? I'm glad there is a variety, and you can still feel the Spirit and inspiration. Traditional music is wonderful. Okay, I've always loved the music aspect of Primary.
post #33 of 524
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Originally Posted by Bekka View Post
"We are children, holding hands around the world
Like an army ..... (still learning the lyrics)
We will do what is right, we will follow his light,
We are building the kingdom of God!"
I liked that song a lot too. The words and sheet music are here: http://www.lds.org/pa/library/0,17905,5049-1,00.html
and you can download it here:
http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,6413-1,00.html

and you can buy the Janice Kapp Perry version here:
http://www.ldsaudio.com/shop/music.a...e=album&id=100
post #34 of 524
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Originally Posted by Bekka View Post
Okay, so Primary is going better and better. We are definitely following most of the things our predecessors do, so it's nice not to have to build from the ground up, just rip out a wall, put up new curtains, etc.

Anyway, just wanted to comment on the COOL song. The kids learned it for the Primary presentation last year. I just don't think it would have flown when I was a kid! It's pretty jazzy and less "trational." I remember my dad thinking that The Lord Needs Valiant Servants was too ??????? something.

But this new song was from the Friend in around 93 or 1996.

"We are children, holding hands around the world
Like an army ..... (still learning the lyrics)
We will do what is right, we will follow his light,
We are building the kingdom of God!"

OR something like that. Very inspirational, and the kids totally stand up and sway: "We are children (clap) holding hands around the world
Like an army (clap) ..."

It's very cool, and even the kids who hate Primary music really seem to "get" this song and love it. Almost like Armies of Helaman. I just think that some kids really dislike "Little Lambs so white and fair ..." and the like? I'm glad there is a variety, and you can still feel the Spirit and inspiration. Traditional music is wonderful. Okay, I've always loved the music aspect of Primary.
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Originally Posted by klg47 View Post
I liked that song a lot too. The words and sheet music are here: http://www.lds.org/pa/library/0,17905,5049-1,00.html
and you can download it here:
http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,6413-1,00.html

and you can buy the Janice Kapp Perry version here:
http://www.ldsaudio.com/shop/music.a...e=album&id=100
When Alisa and I were teaching Primary in Springville (before moving back to Provo) my favorite Primary song was "Scripture Power"

That is one cool so...
shut your mouth
I'm just talkin' 'bout "Scripture Power."


We taught our second lesson today, went pretty well, except I had the wrong time in my head for when SS was over, so I went 10 minutes over. But what really gets me is that no one said anything. Not even the Bishop's wife who was in our class (we're in a BYU/UVSC student ward).

This Friday we're flying out to California (the Bay Area) because my brother and his wife are blessing their baby in a week. Can't wait. It'll be the first time we've seen little Isaac and it'll be the first time my family has seen Connor since last August/September when they were here to drop my sister back off at BYU. So we're excited for that. I'm just a little sad we won't be in class next week to teach the lesson. One of my favorites: the calling of the Twelve Apostles. I love comparing Peter, James, John and the rest to the modern Apostles and talking about what kind of men the Lord calls as Apostles:
Peter, James and John and Andrew were fishermen, Matthew was a tax collector, most of the rest were fishermen or shepherds ... my favorite part of the lesson is talking about what the current Apostles did before their calling as an Apostle:

President Gordon B. Hinckley: Church employment since returning from his mission

President Thomas S. Monson: Was in the US Navy during WWII; General Manager of Deseret Press

President James E. Faust: Navy during WWII; a trial lawyer, a Utah state legislator and was appointed by Pres. JFK to the Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights and Racial Unrest

President Boyd K. Packer: Was in a B-52 bomber over Europe in WWII; educational administrator

Elder L. Tom Perry: WWII Marine, stormed the beaches at Okinawa; Boston-area department store Vice President and Treasurer

Elder Russell M. Nelson: Cardiovascular surgeon

Elder Dallin H. Oaks: Was Justice Earl Warren's law clerk, later became a trial lawyer; President of BYU-Provo

Elder M. Russell Ballard: A car salesman (he sold Edsels)

Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin: Former President of the Utah Trade Association

Elder Richard G. Scott: Nuclear engineer. He worked 12 years on the staff of Admiral Hyman Rickover (at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee), developing military and private-sector nuclear power reactors - he helped to design the first nuclear submarine and subsequently became a consultant to the nuclear power industry

Elder Robert D. Hales: USAF fighter pilot during WWII; he was President of the Papermate Co., a division of Gillette; he later headed Hughes Television Network

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland: Educator; President of BYU-Provo

Elder Henry B. Eyring: Educator; Associate Professor of Business, Stanford University; President of BYU–Idaho (then Ricks College)

Elder David A. Bednar: Educator; Associate Dean at the University of Arkansas

Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf: Pilot for Lufthansa Airline; he is the 93rd Apostle since 1830 and only the 11th to be born outside the United States (of German nationality, born in Czechoslovakia)

And, two who have recently departed this life:
Elder Neal A. Maxwell: Pig farmer; Educator: taught that the University of Utah; served as a legislative assistant to Senator Wallace F. Bennett of Utah

...and...

Elder Daivd B. Haight: Mayor of Palo Alto, California; owned a hardware store in Palo Alto; he is the father-in-law of billionaire businessman and philantropist Jon Huntsman and grandfather of the current Governor of Utah, Jon Huntsman, Jr.

Now ... it's nap time, so I'm off... (sorry for the long post, I just think that this is fun information - just goes to prove 1 Samuel 16:7)
post #35 of 524
nak
thanks for the rundown, ncd. i'll include that in my lesson next week.
post #36 of 524
Wow wow wow. Subscriptions stopped randomly again, and I just read about 7-8 pages from the old thread, and this one too.

I'm Becky 26 years old, living in MD, hoping to relocate to Colorado or anywhere west within the next year, if I can manage to light a fire under DH's tush and get him going on his promise to start looking for a new job. I'm tired of MD. Even though things are starting to get better for us... we finally found friends to have playdates with, we now love our new calling in our ward, etc. Still, I am sooo feeling ready to move on. And *hopefully* out of an apartment situation. (Speaking of which, the long discussions about small apartment living was an interesting read for me...I'm starting to feel very cramped with 2 kids in a 2 bed apt.)

My kids are 3 (daughter Melinda) and 17 months (son Jacob). DH and I have a new calling in Primary, teaching CTR6, so all of us are in the Primary right now, DD new in Sunbeams, and DS too young for nursery.

I found MDC when I was searching for an answer about circumcision. I am so grateful I was pointed here. I started lurking on CAC, then Diapering, then BF'ing, eventually posted enough to stumble across the LDS thread, and so on. Sorry I'm being brief :P I've learned a lot since I've become a member. And I like to think I'm maybe getting a little bit crunchy...I started CD'ing DS when he was 6 months, and I still am and enjoying it. DS self-delayed solids and is still just getting into them at 17 months, but is healthy, developing normally, and very cheerful. DD had a delayed vax schedule and somewhat selective (no chicken pox/flu), and DS is completely unvaccinated at least for now. I still haven't come to a firm decision about what I want to do. I FEEL like I don't want to do any of them, and then some crazy inner part of me freaks out and says, "WHAT?!? You can't just do NONE of them!!!" I know I need to do some serious fasting and prayer about it... but like so much in my life, I have been putting it off because I am so indecisive.

Home teachers actually came last week and quoted from the new RS/Priesthood manual, I think, about the difference between being valiant or not is how much we put things off for another time. It really spoke to me. Aaaaand I put off making any major changes in my life. Sigh. But I've been thinking about it!

Getting back to my "intro", I'm really struggling lately with cooking in general, and meal planning, so it's a miracle when we don't grab fast food for an entire week, but I have been trying to buy more horomone-free dairy, whole grains, and organics whenever possible. I really enjoy those changes, and I enjoy the feeling of cooking a wholesome meal. For instance, this whole week my family's been sick. Yay. I had a fever/head cold on Sunday, then the kids started coughing, then DS started throwing up, then DH started throwing up and then DH and DS *both* were dealing with diarrhea. And well, it was so nice to cook a nice healthy pot of chicken noodle soup for us all. And it was so nice to see the difference breastfeeding could make for DS during this type of sickness. And the cloth diapers to soak up the messes. And cosleeping to make us all feel better. Except that I banished DH to the other room the last couple nights so he wouldn't gross me out with his trips to the bathroom, lol.

Anyway, I'm being pulled away with calls of "I'm HUuuuuuungry Mommy!" so I gotta wrap up. BUT, thanks for sharing the messy house pictures. My house looks like that or worse most times and it's nice to know I"m not alone. I'm embarassed to have people over most of the time, lol. But anyway... I will try to get back to this thread more quickly next time, because that reading marathon was RIDICULOUS!!!! :P
post #37 of 524
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Originally Posted by Bekka View Post
But what I was saying was that the *details* were the problem. I was stressing over which kind of cloth diapers to buy. And trying to get other people to see things my way.
Gotcha. I think it's just two different sides to the same coin. There, I jumped on your bad-figure-of-speech bandwagon!
post #38 of 524
NCD , I live in the bay area in cali .. and i have a son named isaac hehe .. anyhow thanks for the info on the current apostles.
I went to church today , it was good. I just need to decide what to do about my calling. I am supposed to be teaching CTR6 but they have had a sub for the last month and a half and I am not sure I am ready to step into it or should. I am emailing the primary pres about it. If she wants me to I will teach next week.
Hope everyone is having a nice Sunday.
post #39 of 524
I love our ward! I missed church today, because of not getting enough sleep the last two nights-- DS1 had been waking up with night terrors. But, DH took DS1 (2yo) to church, and brought the news back home to me: the elders' quorum president just announced a new "freecycle" type program for the church. I have had bad "luck" with the regular freecycle, but I think a ward freecycle is such a GREAT idea! Also, our ward has committed to bringing in 60 new members this year! I feel stoked and motivated! 60 new members, wow that would be so great! Last year we had about 10 converts join I think. I don't know if that's average or what. ? Speaking of this, a friend who had moved away last year recently moved back into town and we just found out she will be living less than a block away! She had been slightly interested in the church before so this doesn't feel like a coincidence to me. Plus she's slightly crunchy too and she has a 4yo daughter.

Is anyone else annoyed by the new spell check feature here? It got me to spell committed right though!
post #40 of 524
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I love our ward! I missed church today, because of not getting enough sleep the last two nights-- DS1 had been waking up with night terrors.
Have you considered give in DS1 a priesthood blessing? Couldn't hurt, and you might just get some sleep too.
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