Originally Posted by Arwyn
Canadian midwives have their own issues, though. It's a pretty good system, yes, but it's not perfect, either. No set up that would prosecute Gloria Lemay is anywhere near perfect. (I think Oregon is probably as near perfect a set up - except for the payment of midwives part, which just sucks everywhere in the US - as I know of, so of course they're trying to rewrite the legistlation to be crappy like everyone else.)
Oregon? I have heard more horror stories about Oregon, when it comes to CPS taking children away from families, than any other state.
Originally Posted by Storm Bride
Originally Posted by flyjawn
i guess the difference is that i see the restrictions and limitations that are currently in place as being perfectly acceptable.
nonetheless i hope you have the birth experience that you want storm bride.
Why is it reasonable?
I've done the research. I know the risks of VBA3C. If I feel that those risks are worth it, why should it be perfectly acceptable that I be deprived of a choice of care providers? How it perfectly acceptable that I can be required to go without food or water, be restricted to a bed (causing more painful contractions), and be cut open against my will?
If there weren't women willing to go against the grain and refuse licensing, I'd have no options at all...and that's exactly the way the system is set up. I'm not supposed to have any options. I'm supposed to do what I'm told.
If you find that perfectly acceptable, that's your business. But, I don't see why you should get to dictate what's an acceptable birth for me...and I don't see why the SOGC of the College of Midwives should be allowed to do so, either.
Acceptable to her is not the same as reasonable.
It is acceptable to her, because it doesn't interfere with the way she would want to do things anyway.
It is like a teenager who wants to go to a party until 10pm, and her parents set a curfew at midnight. She will not feel restricted. If the teenager wanted to stay out until 2am, she would feel restricted by the same midnight curfew.
Pregnant women are not children. We should not be restricted. If they want to INFORM us of possible risks, fine, but no restrictions.
The reason the government feels like it can restrict us, and decide which risks are worthwhile for us, is because from the government's point of view we are its property. Note that it is illegal to kill ourselves. We are caretakers of the government's property (ourselves and our dependent offspring) as long as we care for the property in a way the government finds acceptable. If not, the government will rescind our privileges to care for ourselves or our offspring.