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post #21 of 48
My boyfriend does not believe that his sexuality was damaged due to being circ'd,,,he feels amazing amounts of pleasure and sensitivity so I'm not sure I would personally agree that it harms a man sexual pleasure.
post #22 of 48
Really? How long ago was he circ'd? He's comparing it to... what?

If you plucked my eyelid off I'd probably say my eyeball was still sensitive, esp if I had nada to compare it to.
post #23 of 48
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Originally Posted by mystic~mama View Post
My boyfriend does not believe that his sexuality was damaged due to being circ'd,,,he feels amazing amounts of pleasure and sensitivity so I'm not sure I would personally agree that it harms a man sexual pleasure.
Yeah, I saw an angry post by someone on another board say exactly the same thing, he compared it to his colourblindness, and said that he enjoyed his view of the world just the same as everyone else does.

It's just a pity that his view of the world is not as rich in colours as the world that everyone with normal sight sees, isn't it? He will never know the difference, but try as he might he couldn't convince anyone that someone with colourblindness has just as good vision as someone with normal vision. It's the same with circumcision, just because he can orgasm doesn't mean that either he (or you for that matter) is getting the full experience.

I sometimes ask people with that argument how they would feel if they knew that they'd been born with perfect vision, but their mother had thought that they wouldn't be able to handle the brightness of the world, so deliberately had their eyes altered so they couldn't see all the colours...
post #24 of 48
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I have vestibulitis. It's a hypersensitivity of the nerves of the vestibule, the area between the clitoris and the vagina. Most of the time, penetration during sex is painful. Even when it's not painful, it's not pleasurable at all. I have no idea how sex is SUPPOSED to feel for a woman. I have no frame of reference. This is all I've known. If most American women had vestibulitis, they wouldn't know any different than discomfort and lack of sensation during sex and would probably rate their sex lives much higher than they would had they developed it later in life. The only reason I know any different is from the experiences of other women.

Similarly, women in African/Middle Eastern nations that routinely circumcise their women report enjoying sex and even experiencing orgasm. Everyone is like them and circ'd sex is "normal" to them. Had they experienced sex and orgasm prior to circumcision, I have no doubt they would rate their sex lives much lower than they presently do.
post #25 of 48
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Originally Posted by kxsiven View Post
This is impossible to test.
Well.

My daughter's father happens to be a fag. : He is intact, he is British and RIC is very uncommon. He has slept with literally hundreds of men, like 400+ probably, so that's a pretty good case study IMO. He gets around. And he says that intact men are *way* more sensitive than cut men, and that cut men require much more intense friction than intact men to orgasm, whereas intact men can enjoy much more subtle forms of stimulation. He said he couldn't believe the difference when he came over here and began having sex regularly with circed partners.

So... I believe him. And I would not cut any son of mine, and aside from the pain/unnecessary trauma to a newborn issue, this is largely why.
post #26 of 48
I meant from the point of view of a man who is circumcised as infant. There is no way he can honestly/scientifically tell any sensitivity difference if he was circumcised as newborn. All he knows is 'cut sex'.

Ofcourse allready common sense tells that when you cut something away = no more feeling.

IMO it is really sad for men and women who have been cut when they were children. They will never experience the total gift mother nature gave.
post #27 of 48
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Originally Posted by kxsiven View Post
I meant from the point of view of a man who is circumcised as infant. There is no way he can honestly/scientifically tell any sensitivity difference if he was circumcised as newborn. All he knows is 'cut sex'.
Yes, yes I understand what you are saying. You make a very good point. And then people say, "Well I don't feel any difference." They don't know.
post #28 of 48
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Originally Posted by TigerTail View Post
Really? How long ago was he circ'd? He's comparing it to... what?

If you plucked my eyelid off I'd probably say my eyeball was still sensitive, esp if I had nada to compare it to.
he was circ'd as a baby,,,he is not comparing it to anything I guess,,,it is true that he feels a lot of pleasure during sex, noticeably more than any other man I've been with, he is very sensitive and aware in general and another thing he said was that he isnt sure he would want to feel more pleasure because it would be even harder to slow it down,,,we practice tantra together....I am going to ask him to consider restoring again, for me.
post #29 of 48
OK this may be way TMI

But I have mentioned damage affecting my sexual pleasure before so I'll just keep on going here.

I have heard the comment about circ'd men not knowing if they would want to experience "more" because it might be too much ......

Before my damage, I could ride pleasureable sensations forever.
Now I still receive pleasure but I do not have the same fine sensitivity and that makes it much more difficult to fineness the pace. I have wondered if part of what I have experienced is akin to what a man who is circumcised experiences. If they were circumcised at birth, they would have nothing to compare it to, hence the belief "I couldn't take any more".
It's quality not quantity.

My bottom opinion is that it's gotta harm it. And thank goodness for humankind, most still experience pleasure.

Now 400+ male contacts, that's more like the info I could depend on..... then again it really isn't a study is it.
post #30 of 48
I think anecdotes that plural become more reliable than most data- how are you going to arrange a double-blind study?

"Let's see, we need two hundred intact guys who don't know they're intact, two hundred circ'd guys who don't know they're circ'd, & some enthusiastic fellators/trixes who are nonetheless too stupid to know the difference."

I don't have 400 experiences chocked up, but I did live through the seventies & eighties as a single girl (in Hollywood), & let's just say my experiences agree with Thismama's Babydaddy.
post #31 of 48
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"Let's see, we need two hundred intact guys who don't know they're intact, two hundred circ'd guys who don't know they're circ'd, & some enthusiastic fellators/trixes who are nonetheless too stupid to know the difference."
post #32 of 48
Tigertail

post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by hummingbear View Post
OK this may be way TMI


I have heard the comment about circ'd men not knowing if they would want to experience "more" because it might be too much ......
I've heard this hollow speculation from some cut guys before too, and it always strikes me as ridiculous. First, it's no good reason to cut a child. Second, well......some of us maybe COULD have handled all that excess pleasure....or we sure would have liked to practice trying to.
post #34 of 48
Oh TigerTail, I like your study BEST OF ALL!!!

Plus, I personally have compared the two options, and I find the functioning of an uncut pokey to be preferable!
post #35 of 48
I want to direct that porn movie . That could be camp ne plus ultra, don't you think?
post #36 of 48
post #37 of 48
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Originally Posted by Bm31 View Post
I've heard this hollow speculation from some cut guys before too, and it always strikes me as ridiculous. First, it's no good reason to cut a child. Second, well......some of us maybe COULD have handled all that excess pleasure....or we sure would have liked to practice trying to.
I don't see my intact s/o as "handling excess pleasure" when we have sex. Its more like its just about the same for both of us- very intense and intertwined together. In fact, he can stop short of ejaculating about twice before he can't do that anymore and seems to be exacting much careful control when he does. I attribute this to the nuances he feels. And if its just plain old "OMG!!" type of "excess pleasure" that's being referred to here, what's not to handle? Its the same for him as for me- you get lost in waves of delerium over and over....
post #38 of 48
Yeah, I can remember that feeling *sniff*
post #39 of 48
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Yeah, I can remember that feeling *sniff*
What do you mean "remember"? I have not been following your "story" I guess.....
post #40 of 48
I'm from the UK and current partner is American circ'd.
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