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post #21 of 395
Of course, if Joan thinks it's a good idea I might have to revise my opinion...

Dar
post #22 of 395
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post #23 of 395
Speaking as someone who is still not 100% sure that we will begin homeschooling next year (dd in preschool right now but will almost definitely be unschooled rather than keep on with schooling next year) I would love an unschooling subforum. There have been times when I wanted to learn more, hear more about real daily life experiences with unschooling, etc. and have had to sift through a lot of stuff to find anything that may prove useful to me. Sometimes so much I just get frustrated and put it away until another time. It would be cool to have one area to go where I can learn more about unschooling and chat with others doing what we may be.

That said, Dar's idea of stickies could also work out in a similar way if done well.
post #24 of 395
Thread Starter 
I think we need stickies too, and am surprised there isn't an unschooling sticky already but I don't think that it is a adequate substitute for an unschooling forum.
post #25 of 395
I don't think there is really anything wrong with the forum as it is.

I do agree that organizing the sticky threads would be helpful.
A sticky about unschooling would be good.
Questions about reading come up often so maybe that is worthy of a stickied thread. Maybe a sticky for "new to homeschooling" would be useful too.


I understand why the learning at school forum has subforums representing different types of schools. I feel there is a less clear division between the different home learning styles of posters here though. I think as a group we are harder to fit into neat boxes. To me, it would be more harmful than helpful to try to create that division among us.
I use a boxed curriculum with my dd right now. I still really respect unschooling and get inspiration from hearing how those families approach an issue with their kids. I don't know if I'd feel welcome to read and post in an unschooling subforum.

I feel that if there are any subforums added that age specific subforums would be most helpful and least divisive to the community. I would think one for age 5 and under, 6-11, and ages 12+ would be adequate.
post #26 of 395
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I think the posts really show the differences in homeschooling philosophies. As an unschooler age brackets mean absolutely nothing to me. My child doesn't learn stuff based on her age, we don't have expectations of learning based on age. But I can totally see why they are useful for school at homers though.
post #27 of 395
The age specific forums would still be annoying and divisive. If I have a problem with DD's behavior as it relates to home learning, do I post about it in general HSing, HSing 6-11yos, HSing 12yos because she's almost that age, in "preteens and teens" under general parenting, or under Gentle Discipline? It's hard enough to chose between HSing, parenting preteens/teens, and GD!!

The homeschooling forum isn't so busy that posts get lost/moved off the first page within a day, before they have a chance to be answered. Therefore, I don't see the need to chop up the forum.
post #28 of 395
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Originally Posted by frogguruami View Post
But would those of us who aren't 100% unschoolers get shunned. I, personally would lose out on alot of valuable info and ideas because I would not feel welcome on an unschooling subforum. Even though I am pretty darn relaxed, I am not an unschooler.
post #29 of 395
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
I think the posts really show the differences in homeschooling philosophies. As an unschooler age brackets mean absolutely nothing to me. My child doesn't learn stuff based on her age, we don't have expectations of learning based on age. But I can totally see why they are useful for school at homers though.
See, and I consider myself to be on the unschooling end of the spectrum but the very loose age brackets (i.e. preschool, school aged and teen) are meaningful to me. The reason why is because the numerous posts asking for guidance on instructing babies and toddlers (or posts expressing anxiety that a toddler doesn't know some particular academic skill) don't have any relevance to my hs philosophy or to my issues as a legal homeschooler. I think there should at least be a division between people who homeschool as an alternative to mandatory schooling and people who are working with their babes/toddlers/preschoolers at home. They don't seem to be related topics, to me.

And I'm one of the many people who probably unschools but who is not comfortable using the label due to the very vague definition of unschooling (and the subsequent in-fighting over what it actually means). So I'd be sad to see the unschoolers put in their own forum. I like straddling the line between unschooling and ultra-relaxed eclectic hsing.

And mostly, I really love the interaction between unschoolers and school-at-home folks (and all those in between) simply because I've learned SO much from that interaction.
post #30 of 395
I do not like the age seperation idea though.

We do not school by age. so such a division would just make the forum more difficult for me to use.
post #31 of 395
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See, and I consider myself to be on the unschooling end of the spectrum but the very loose age brackets (i.e. preschool, school aged and teen) are meaningful to me. The reason why is because the numerous posts asking for guidance on instructing babies and toddlers (or posts expressing anxiety that a toddler doesn't know some particular academic skill) don't have any relevance to my hs philosophy or to my issues as a legal homeschooler. I think there should at least be a division between people who homeschool as an alternative to mandatory schooling and people who are working with their babes/toddlers/preschoolers at home. They don't seem to be related topics, to me.

And I'm one of the many people who probably unschools but who is not comfortable using the label due to the very vague definition of unschooling (and the subsequent in-fighting over what it actually means). So I'd be sad to see the unschoolers put in their own forum. I like straddling the line between unschooling and ultra-relaxed eclectic hsing.

And mostly, I really love the interaction between unschoolers and school-at-home folks (and all those in between) simply because I've learned SO much from that interaction.
The thing is though....homeschooling is a lifestyle for us. It does not matter beans to me if my children are "legally" homeschoolers. Our lifestyle is different from the beginning because we choose to homeschool.

Dominick is my only "legal" homeschooler, but Abby and Angelo will tell you they are homeschooled as well.

I will not devalue their learning by saying it is as then Dominick's because of their age. They each excel in their own ways.
post #32 of 395
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The thing is though....homeschooling is a lifestyle for us. It does not matter beans to me if my children are "legally" homeschoolers. Our lifestyle is different from the beginning because we choose to homeschool.

Dominick is my only "legal" homeschooler, but Abby and Angelo will tell you they are homeschooled as well.

I will not devalue their learning by saying it is as then Dominick's because of their age. They each excel in their own ways.
Ok, I understand this and I actually used to feel very passionately this way. I knew I wanted to homeschool since ds1 was a year old. And it IS a lifestyle. Nothing changed in our lives when I had to legally file for ds1; we were still the same people with the same lifestyle. But (treading carefully b/c I don't want to sound intolerant), I think there are many people who do formal learning at home in the early years who don't end up homeschooling. And I struggle to see the relevance of "help me teach my 2 or 3 year old to read" to typical homeschooling issues. I don't mean to sound like a snob. :
post #33 of 395
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Ok, I understand this and I actually used to feel very passionately this way. I knew I wanted to homeschool since ds1 was a year old. And it IS a lifestyle. Nothing changed in our lives when I had to legally file for ds1; we were still the same people with the same lifestyle. But (treading carefully b/c I don't want to sound intolerant), I think there are many people who do formal learning at home in the early years who don't end up homeschooling. And I struggle to see the relevance of "help me teach my 2 or 3 year old to read" to typical homeschooling issues. I don't mean to sound like a snob. :
I agree and am irritated by posts like that as well.

I know what you mean....I think it will end up punishing mamas who ARE truly homeschooling their young ones though.

When I come across a thread I think is against my belief system in regards to our learning, I skip it.
post #34 of 395
Maybe there could be a few subforums like on vegsource?
post #35 of 395
I would really enjoy an unschooling subforum : But I wouldn't love subforums by subject or age.
post #36 of 395
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We do not school by age
I was thinking that I would like to see what other five year olds or 12 year olds, etc., were up to, and that having age brackets would make that easier. I don't have specifice expectations for my kids based on their ages, either, but if my kids express interest in something, I would be interested in age-appropriate ways of exploring those interests with them. There's a difference in the ways you explore "space" with a 5 year old and with a 12 year old, for example.

Namaste!
post #37 of 395
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
I think the posts really show the differences in homeschooling philosophies. As an unschooler age brackets mean absolutely nothing to me. My child doesn't learn stuff based on her age, we don't have expectations of learning based on age. But I can totally see why they are useful for school at homers though.
Exactly. I look at things: "How would Child S relate to this material? Would he enjoy it? Would he understand it?" Not: Child S is 6. This material is for 6 yr olds. Here ya go.

My kids see informational video about medical things that many adults couldn't stomach; they are interested in it, have no nightmares, & learn from & discuss with no trauma. Telling me it's not 'age-appropriate' for them to watch an intricate surgery is meaningless to us. THEY can handle it. Your 30 yr old spouse might not be able to. People differ in their temperment and understanding.

I would call myself more relaxed & eclectic than unschooling just because I hate feeling bound by a label, but I'd have to say I feel a lot more comfortable hanging with the unschoolers. Hearing about the typical homeschooler- I can seldom relate to that lifestyle.
post #38 of 395
I don't like the idea of an unschooling subforum. Unschooling to school-at-home is a continuum and not everyone falls completely into one category (very few are school at home for one) and I think no matter your "label" you should be hearing from the same wise homeschooling mamas and not segregating them by type. I am interested in reading posts and threads from both radical unschoolers as well as people who may use a curriculum.
post #39 of 395
Oh yeah and I don't post much there, but I read. Someday I will post more... and I don't want to have to pick whether I am an unschooler or not
post #40 of 395
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I agree and am irritated by posts like that as well.

I know what you mean....I think it will end up punishing mamas who ARE truly homeschooling their young ones though.

When I come across a thread I think is against my belief system in regards to our learning, I skip it.
You know what? You changed my mind! I am no longer in favor of age sub-forums. I'm still not in favor of methods forums. I guess my vote is to leave it the way that it is, but suggest that people use support threads or tribes when they need like-minded support. And a few stickies might help cut back on all that "what does unschooling mean?" questions.
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