Best products and books to get started with WAPF?

[Nan'sMom]

We are thinking of trying out the WAPF diet. I was lacto-ovo vegetarian for 11 years, vegan for 15 years and started adding back dairy and then eggs as I was pregnant and breastfeeding. I'm still carrying 25 pounds of extra weight from my second pregnancy, tired and pasty. Not too odd with 1 and 3 year old nurslings but still, it seems to me that it may be partly due to nutritional issues.

I'd love to jump right in and try it but I am a bit overwhelomed by all the information. Can you recommend brands, dosages and starter books? That way I can get started and then learn more as I go.

Thanks!

[spughy]

Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon is a good start. It's a tad preachy and sometimes you just want to shake the book and say "Enough already! I get it! Just gimme the damn recipes!!!!" but it does have a lot of good info in it. Some of the recipes are more involved than they need to be, but it's a good place to start.

[Nan'sMom]

Thanks!!! That's exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. Recipes will help a lot, as I have no clue how to cook meat.

[saratc]

Eat Fat Lose Fat also by Sally Fallon is very good as well and a bit easier read. Also check out the Traditional Foods Books/Cookbooks sticky at the top of the forum.

[AJP]

Full Moon Feast by Jessica Prentice is fabulous (the subtitle is Food and the Hunger for Connection), it's more philosophical, less textbook-ish, technical and stiff-necked than NT, fewer recipes (but very useful ones), and probably less overwhelming for someone new to these ideas. http://www.fullmoonfeast.com/moons/

I've read good things about Real Food: What To Eat And Why by Nina Planck but haven't read it yet myself. http://www.ninaplanck.com/

[soliloquy72]

ITA w/ what spughy wrote. Nourishing Traditions is fabulous and chock full of info. It's a good start. We've been using it for a little over two months and I now feel totally comfortable to invent my own recipes. We had been eating whole foods for years but not soaking or fermenting anything. Figuring all the grains out was hardest for me.

I do hope it helps you feel better. I feel SO much better. My skin looks like it did 15 years ago and I lost 20 lbs. in two months w/o exercising (I want ot exercise but w/ a 3 y.o and a 1 y.o. well, I'm sure you know!).

[Nan'sMom]

Thanks very much for all the information. The ideas are starting to gel. I'm excited to try this but at the same time grieving eating animal products. I really would prefer not to ... I know a lot of NT people started out vegan/vegetarian so I'm not alone in this sentiment.

Thanks again!

[AJP]

Full Moon Feast has a whole chapter discussing the issue of eating animal products, and the author is a former vegetarian (maybe vegan, I don't remember for sure) - it's a very good discussion, not just "you should eat animal foods because of x,y,z nutritional reason" but the spiritual, ethical and cultural facets as well.

Which reminds me of another good book, The Yoga of Eating by Charles Eisenstein.

[*Di]

Hi -
Here is a thread on this forum with lots of good advice for getting started (also, in that thread I posted some links to other threads which also have wonderful advice for getting started).
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=607720

Re. books, although Nourishing Traditions if of course very good I mainly use it for recipes, but the book I like best for actual reading is Real Food: What To Eat And Why by Nina Planck... it's very easy to read and flows smoothly, sort of like a novel !

Good Luck

[Nan'sMom]

Great, thanks for all the feedback and starter information! Di--I found that great thread last night when searxhing--not sure why I didn't notice it before. It was really helpful.

Thanks again!

[krankedyann]

Definitely get NT and I also like The Garden of Eating.

There are over 300 NT-friendly recipes on my website, plus a FAQ on how to convert your own favorite recipes to being more nutritious.

The first thing I would do is to start soaking grains, convert to raw dairy and pastured eggs if you can find them. Then get to the meat. Why not start with fish? Since you're already consuming dairy and eggs, that's the logical next step. Quality fish is easy to find in a HFS and is cheaper than some of the other meats.

[Nan'sMom]

Krankedyann--thanks for the great website!!! That helps a lot. We're off the the HFS today to get stuff!

[NoTiGG]

The makers diet is also based on WP, and so is body ecology diet