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So DS is 20m old now. I have noticed a lot of struggling between us lately, he has always been super sensitive to feeling manipulated, so we have always tried to use distractions and redirections (with really good success). Typically if you told him no, you might as well have told him "I will never love you again"

He has gotten very good at saying "No" in a pleasent and communicative way when we ask him if he wants to do something, or wants some specific food or whatever. He says it with a very matter-of-fact tone and has a great attitude about it (not the kind of "no" that is anti-communication, just very concise communication).

Well yesterday he wanted to play in the water in the sink in the bathroom, so he would ask to go potty, would pee, then would throw a devistated fit because I would say "Right now isn't the best time to play with water because it is cold and you don't want to wear clothes so you will get too cold" Or "It's time for playing with toys lets go to the play room" or "Lets go see your sister, I bet she would love to see you dance" or :you already played in the sink for an hour and you got so cold that you were shivering and you got mama all cold trying to nurse like that" All of those would make him throw himself on the floor and scream inconsolably

So a bit later when I was going into the bathroom... he likes to follow me and EC cue me and tell me that I peed. As we were going in I was asking him if he wanted a snack and he just gently said "No" shook his head and tried to climb up to the sink.

So I mirrored his exact tone and matter-of-factness and said "No" and shook my head. He asked a few times with his gibberish words and pointing about the sink (no fit, just communication) So I replied again with his friendly communicitive "No" Nothing condescending or desperate, no redirection no bargaining and he just got down and asked me to pick him up so he could turn off the light in the bathroom (part of our leaving the bathroom routine). Of course we ran off to do something else fun, but we didn't struggle about the stupid sink again the whole night...

I guess maybe I was just underestimating him. I think if he was verbal he would have been saying "I know all those reasons and I am willing to take the risk of being cold" or something simmilar, but when I just shook my head and said no he seemed to really understand that I just really don't want to do that right now.

I love positive phraising and I love "Getting to yes" but man this just seemed to make my son and I much more comfortable yesterday.

I am going to be super careful not to let "No" become authoratarian or anti-communication, but it is strange that we could never really tell him no and keep him happy before, but yesterday that was the only way to keep us both happy (the sink game usually ends in heartache even if he gets to play in the water).

This is a different kind of "No" it's hard to explain, but DW and I think that the most important part was that I said it without any anxiety or chaotic desperation, which often my redirection contains some amount of anxiety and desperation.
post #2 of 11
Hi Shaggydaddy,

Your post spoke to me because I had a lot of issues with DD over wanting to play with water in the sink. Well, maybe not "a lot of issues" but she always wanted to do it. As it turned out, my daughter has sensory problems and playing with water in the sink is what she needed to do. It was my first clue (although I didn't pick up on it, this is retrospect!) that she had sensory issues. The other thing she began to do at that age is spin - she would spin and spin and never get dizzy. I remember telling her not to spin because I was afraid that she would knock into something but I often just let her because it seemed like something she needed to do.

But I also wanted to say that if it worked for you to be able to say "no" and have your son feel safe and "heard", then it's good. And I am not suggesting that your son has sensory issues - I'm just suggesting that you watch for them since this is something that seems to come up frequently.
post #3 of 11
iteresting. he also spins alot (but he does get dizzy). it will certainly be something we stay aware of. thanks.
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Originally Posted by aja-belly View Post
iteresting. he also spins alot (but he does get dizzy). it will certainly be something we stay aware of. thanks.
If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me!
post #5 of 11
I love Jet

That is all
post #6 of 11
I was much more into the positive redirection with my dd, but have noticed that with my ds both dh and I say no a lot more. We're matter-of-fact, too, and it keeps our relationship sane. I don't know if it's his personality - he's never really loved redirection - or our greater confidence as parents, but I've found myself really comfortable with it. And he is too. Most of the time he goes along, if he objects, he lets us know and we can renegotiate. Sometimes. I do have some hard and fast rules, which you might not have.
post #7 of 11
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing.
post #8 of 11
I think I know what you mean.
Sometimes all the explanations in the world won't convince ds that x isn't a good idea.
But if I express to him that x is not agreeable to ME, then sometimes he's quite ok with that. (it would be open for negotiation most of the time, and he's aware of that)

Is that what you're saying?
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Originally Posted by Deva33mommy View Post
I think I know what you mean.
Sometimes all the explanations in the world won't convince ds that x isn't a good idea.
But if I express to him that x is not agreeable to ME, then sometimes he's quite ok with that. (it would be open for negotiation most of the time, and he's aware of that)

Is that what you're saying?
yeah.

It has been about a week now and it still works... our kids are so interesting and complex.
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Originally Posted by LoveBeads View Post
Your post spoke to me because I had a lot of issues with DD over wanting to play with water in the sink.
i just wanted to bump this up to say that we found one of these on clearence and it has been great! we have it on a low table to he can play with it whenever he wants. he still likes the sink, but he doesn't have such a crazy strong drive to always be in the sink.
post #11 of 11
I think your post points up a critical issue--that one should always parent the child in front of them, not a theoretical child in their head. This was such a wonderful example of letting go of what you thought sounded "right" and saying what was actually right for your son. The evidence is that you both felt secure and content and there was no unhappy tension in this exchange. I really think you were just giving him information...not giving commands. It sounds like he needed a simple direct way of understanding that the sink wasn't the best idea right then....and a wordy explanation just confused. Saying "no" was just your way of communicating "this isn't a great idea right now" it wasn't "I forbid you son from taking one step closer to that sink!". Obviously he understood what *you meant*. That is key.
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