I can't take this -- have to say something
Originally Posted by anarchamama
Also while I am sure being a cop is a highly unpleasant job at times, it is in fact not an especially dangerous one as jobs go. Dramatic sure, but cops don't have a particularily high workplace mortality rate.
Go to http://odmp.org/browse.php
and check out the dead cops. Browse a few of the pages that details how those cops died. Some you will find died by drowning or in a random car accident, but the VAST majority died while helping someone, while doing their job, while serving the public. Your intentional disrespect of their sacrifice speaks volumes as to your character. Andthat you are passing these sentiments on to your children? Great -- job security for me.
I've reread your saga of being tear-gassed at union marches and watching your father get arrested. I suspect that your father's experiences were quite a few years ago and that yours were likely linked to illegal activity, perhaps participating in a riot? Perhaps inciting violence or attempting to create anarchy? Blaming the police for their lawful actions that were in response to your unlawful actions doesn't make a whole lot of sense and isn't going to curry any favour. The vast majority of ordinary North Americans are not rabid unionists, and have no sympathy for them, or their tactics. Do a little research on the Anti Poverty Committee, their antics and public perception.
|At least in canada the most dangerous industries are fishing and trapping, mining, quarrying and oil rigs, logging and forestry, and construction.
That's only because the worker's compensation schemes either haven't caught up in those industries yet, or the workers are seen as expendable by all levels -- owners, the employees themselves and the consumers. If the employees in those industries used each and every safety mechanism available to them (like most policemen do...), there would be far fewer deaths.
Let's look at your examples of "workers [that] die becasue the BAD capitalist don't care enough about workers to follow proper safety standards." (as if the company owners should be there, holding the employee's hand each and every day...)
Fisherman: Everytime a fisherman dies, ask yourself if he had a lifejacket or exposure suit on like he was supposed to. Was he clipped on like he was supposed to be? No? How is that the fishing company's fault that the fisher cut corners and didn't do his own due-diligence? The company isn't a babysitter, can't FORCE anyone to save their own lives.
Trappers: I can't find ANY statistics to bear out your claim that this is a dangerous occupation. Please quote legitimate sources to prove this out.
Natural resources: Yes, dangerous work, which is why they get paid well for it, including hazard pay, northern living allowance, isolation allowance, all meals and tranportation to/from camps etc. No one is forced into working in this sector, yet they flock to the region year after year, and prove themselves willing to work cheaper, faster and more unsafely than the next guy. Is it any wonder that they die? It's akin to suicide -- they're CHOOSING to not avail themselves of safety measures. Every employee in BC and AB gets any training which MAY be applicable to their job, including first aid, rescue, toxic gas training and equipment etc. These industries also have dedicated first aid attendants and safety officers whose SOLE job it is is to ensure the safety of the employees. The only other job category to get such attention is construction.
Between 1991-1999, 93 miners died and 21,351 were injured (source: http://www.msha.gov/MSHAINFO/FactSheets/MSHAFCT2.HTM
Contrast that with 148 police officers killed in 1991 alone http://odmp.org/year.php?year=1991
That's 1661 American police officers DEAD in the same time span that MSHA reports 93 miners died.
Construction: Again, if construction workers would use all of the safety mechanisms available to them, not one life would be lost. Each workplace accident can be traced to an employee's failure to obey simple safety rules.
I think these arguments you are throwing out there are just red herrings, meant to divert attention from the real issue.
According to http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/summa...ock/index.html
this is what happened in America in 2004:
Every 23.1 seconds: One Violent Crime
Every 32.6 minutes: One Murder
Every 5.6 minutes: One Forcible Rape
Every 1.3 minutes: One Robbery
Every 36.9 seconds: One Aggravated Assault
Every 3.1 seconds: One Property Crime
Every 14.7 seconds: One Burglary
Every 4.5 seconds: One Larceny-theft
Every 25.5 seconds: One Motor Vehicle Theft
And who did the victims call for help?
Police are one of the few professions that actively seek out trouble and make it go away. Do you call a construction worker when your bike is stolen or when you get mugged? Do you call a fisherman when some druggie has set up shop on your front step or latin-american gangs are taking over your neighbourhood? www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/
Miners don't take on armed and dangerous gang members. Police do. Fisherman don't run towards an active-shooter in a mall, nor do construction workers or coal miners. Who does? The Police. Firemen put out fires, while someone has to catch the arsonist. Who? The police. EMS don't go in if it's even remotely unsafe, they wait for who? The police. Seeing a common thread here?
Naw, it's not worth the effort. Flaming only gets people banned by the hypermods on MDC -- I'd sooner meet your disrespectful unionist and veiled-communist rhetoric with fact and figure and then watch it destruct under it's own impossibility.
This thread started out about why police officers have guns and many answers were fielded explaining why police officers are equipped with the tools to do their jobs. Several posters here have hijacked it with their own skewed viewpoints based on their own experiences, as valid as they may be and turned this thread into their own cop-bashing forum. This is regrettable, since these are obviously isolated incidents, and there are hundreds of thousands of police officers in the US, and hundreds of thousands more in Canada -- the vast majority of whom do their jobs with honour, integrity and service to their sworn community.