Originally Posted by izobelle
One suggestion... could you ask whether nursing in the front row would also be a problem? Nobody would see that, after all, being behind you, except the members of the choir and the bishop himself. Refusing would be tantamount to admitting that he himself had a problem with pornography. If he did, God be with him, and I'd personally have a bit more sympathy, at least he admits it. But I'll give you a gazillion-to-one odds that he doesn't say anything like that.
I think that would work if it wasn't for my toddler
There is such a stigma at church about keeping your children "under control" by making them sit still and be quiet. I must respect my dd age appropriate behavior (1 1/2 hrs is a looong time for a 2yr old - heck even for me). So I prefer to sit in the back where we won't be bothering anyone. Wait - did you read that last part? Oh, so maybe I'm not the unfeeling witch he seems so think I am being. If it isn't my nursing they take issue with, it will be my discipline (or lack thereof).
Originally Posted by NewCrunchyDaddy
Tuansprincess ... I have spent the last hour searching lds.org and I have not come up with a single recourse that this bishop would be able to use against you. There is nothing that says you cannot BF uncovered in Sacrament Meeting. Matter of fact, everything I came across in the search library was 100% positive for BF'ing. It's pure and simple, he has no recourse, especially if you are in Utah where it is illegal to tell a nursing woman to leave or cover up (don't know where you are, but you may want to peek at the laws). Good luck and we'll keep you in our
Thank you so, so much for your time. But now I am that much more motivated to get laws like that passed.
Originally Posted by Brisen
Since they're so concerned about what your "actions" are driving others to do, I would be tempted (
) to imply or flat out state that their actions could very well drive you to inactivity, since you are feeling singled out, rejected, and ostracized. If they really worry about how others' actions are impacting the status of a member in a difficult place, shouldn't they worry about you, and make special concessions for you? Maybe this gentleman should be asked to leave SM and listen to the meeting in the lobby while you are there.
That's a good idea! But wait - what about how he
feels? That would be way too inconvenient fr him
: The bishop made it clear that many people have been offended by my nip. So, obviously it should be the one vs the many who should change. Except that the one
is doing nothing wrong and the many
are refusing to see this.
Originally Posted by sebarnes
: This is one of the things that infuriates me most about this. Why do we (society) insist on casting men as slobbering monsters just champing at the bit to rape and pillage. How disrespectful to one of God's creations to deny that they have free will and the ability to choose their own actions.
ETA: I keep seeing people referring to the fact that your Stake President agrees with the Bishop, but I don't see that anywhere in your post? Have I missed something? If he doesn't, or you don't know, I'll reinterate what I said earlier about taking it up the ladder to him first before heading to your area authority.
ITA! He tried to equate my showing any incidental skin to a teen girl wearing revealing clothes. The girl is showing skin to show skin and I may show skin, but it is all part of nursing. Not the same.
Oh, the poor man (sarc) called the SPres and a few other bish he knew to see if they had ever had to "deal" with a woman who nursed openly. They all said no. He said that the SPres specifically said that nursing w/out a blanket in SM is innapropriate.
One other thing he said is that if he were to declare as bishop of the ward that nip w/out a blanket in mixed comp is NOT a problem, there would be a major fall-out. Sounds like - lose one or lose a lot. Meh, we can lose her.
: rediculouse is it that a declaration that nursing naturaly and w/out shame would result in a spiritual calamity! It certainly does feel hopeless at this point.