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post #1 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:37pm
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Perhaps I should have posted in another forum, but I am not looking for reasons I should take my babe to the doctor. Many of the problems he is having now are due to doctor's ignorance/negligence.

My unvaxed, 9 mo old ds is sick. he is extremely mucousy and wheezing. I was not able to continue breastfeding past 8 mo due to needing to care for my hospitalized 8 yr. old. The extended seperations proved to be too much for this breastfeding challenged, low supply mama. Can I just say that I HATE type 1 diabetes?: MMR: thanks

Anyway, I am new to this natural medicine thing and still raw from psychological trauma resulting from my last two hospital stays (birth of ds, and stay with my 8 yr old.) I NEED to treat him at home. I don't want to give him the albuteral unless i have too.

Here is what I have:
humidifier
hot shower
eucalyptus rub
eucalyptus oil
rescue remedy
colloidal silver
horehound drops (can't find but looking "around here somewhere")
calcium ascorbate

The first four items on the list I am familiar with, but the other stuff I am not sure how to use or how much.

My hubby gets home soon and I can make a run to the healthstore if anyone can think of anything else I need.

TIA! Please be specific and talk down to me as if I know nothing, I won't get offended I am REALLY new to this.

I will try not to sit on top of the computer, but I really need help.

Wendy

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post #2 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:40pm


Do I read correctly that you've only had him weaned for a month? If so- I would seriously try to relactate. Even a little milk goes a long way.

That said, I would add sodium ascorbate to your list. Vitamin C. That type comes as a powder and is easy to mix in water or whatever else he's drinking.

good luck!

-Angela
post #3 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:44pm
Hi Wendy... my babies improved tremendously this past winter when they had colds and I took them off of all dairy! Just long enough for them to recover from their colds...

Sorry I'm not more help.
post #4 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:46pm
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Thank you alegna ...Relactate? Are you serious?: Could you elaborate please?

I actually went to buy the sodium ascorbate. I went to three places all they had was the calcium ascorbate, so I finally got that. Will it work?
post #5 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by CCChanel View Post
Hi Wendy... my babies improved tremendously this past winter when they had colds and I took them off of all dairy! Just long enough for them to recover from their colds...

Sorry I'm not more help.
Thank you i was actually considering trying that but the only "dairy" he is on is his organic formula (oxymoron, I know).
post #6 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:48pm
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Relactate? Are you serious?: Could you elaborate please?
Absolutely serious How long ago did he stop nursing? How was your supply then? How often did he nurse?

If you stimulate your supply, it will come back. If you put the babe to the breast and get him to nurse and/or if you pump your milk will come back to some degree. Possibly completely.

-Angela
post #7 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by lilsparrow View Post
I actually went to buy the sodium ascorbate. I went to three places all they had was the calcium ascorbate, so I finally got that. Will it work?
It will work if it's all you've got. Get online and find some sodium ascorbate for next time.

-Angela
post #8 of 47
2/22/07 at 5:49pm
Yes sodium ascorbate.

We also use something with Yin Chao called "Liquid Herbal Welness" alcohol-free version.

DS has very good luck with real homeopathy, but not the otc dosages.

For relactating, try More Milk Plus tincture from www.motherlove.com You will get your milk back fairly quick. For extra zip, take fenugreek as well.

Get EmergenC for now. It's everywhere. And order http://store.allhealthtrends.com/pgi...te,2,157,=,SAP

Aside from breastmilk, Sodium Ascorbate is the single biggest thing to help a body through this.
post #9 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by lilsparrow View Post
Thank you alegna ...Relactate? Are you serious?: Could you elaborate please?

I actually went to buy the sodium ascorbate. I went to three places all they had was the calcium ascorbate, so I finally got that. Will it work?
You can try searching here (if you find a store call first)
http://www.nowfoods.com/index.php?cat_id=190

Or order online.
post #10 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:05pm
I second the SA. You can get it here: www.bronsonlaboratories.com
post #11 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:14pm
Lobelia can help with wheezing due to inflammation of the upper respiratory tract. I've used it many times with my son with great success. Please do your own research for dosage, etc. I'm not that knowledgeable in this area, I just know what I've used for my son based on recommendations from my chiropractor.

As far as mucous goes, fenugreek & thyme can help thin that out. Again, you'll have to do your own research for dosages.
post #12 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:21pm
More on relactation at http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/relactation.html
It is absolutely possible and well worth trying.
post #13 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by CCChanel View Post
Hi Wendy... my babies improved tremendously this past winter when they had colds and I took them off of all dairy! Just long enough for them to recover from their colds...

Sorry I'm not more help.
We've had success with this too.

Eliminating dairy when congested and giving Slippery Elm (herb rec'd by my midwife) 3 times per day is what I have done this winter for my 20 mo old. Its worked well. I also do warm to hot showers each day (or several times per day) with babe as the mucous just pours out of his nose.

I dont know if Slippery Elm is safe for a babe of nine months, although the MW did recomend it for me, I'm 24 weeks pregnant.

Good luck.
post #14 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:27pm
I have always done well with alcohol-free echinacea.. Herbs for Kids brand liquid is a common product but any will do (even the tinctures w/alcohol are OK, really) follow the dosing on the bottle

You might try a nursing aid like the Lact-Aid , or SNS (?? I think) which attatches a flexible tube to nipple so baby nurses on nipple to stimulate your milk production while formula is coming in thru the tube.. it keeps them at the breast longer and helps reestablish milk.. then you phase out the formula in the pouch as your supply builds.. I know a mom who was able to at least partially BF her twins born by a gestational carrier (ie the mom was never actually PG), as well as a mom who produced about 40% BM for her adopted baby.. these products can really work, if used correctly

this *might* be OT and maybe some might flag me for this being a "drug" but to move really stubborn congestion that has not moved with the above measures I have used guaifenesen (sp?) brand name mucinex with good success .(it is actually in a few healthfood store brand herbal cough products) use your own judgement though.. just passing on my experience (it is the only OTC drug I will use)

also, never underestimate the power of a good chiropractic adjustment or osteopathic manipulation.. really

good luck
post #15 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:29pm
SNS link

http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html#sns
post #16 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:30pm
Lact-Aid link

http://www.lact-aid.com/
post #17 of 47
2/22/07 at 6:33pm
for the record, I noticed you are in MD, I know a fantastic alternative/ complimentary ped in MD : Debbie McCabe, MD , if you are interested or ever "need" one.. she is amazing and "in line" with what it sounds like your beliefs are.. PM me for # or google her if oyu want, she ahs two offices, one in Ocean City MD and one on the eastern shore somewhere
post #18 of 47
2/22/07 at 7:41pm
Thread Starter 
I was excited to get such quick replies and then my power went out.

So now it's back on and I would like to thank all of you for taking the time to reply, and for all of the links concerning relactation. I am definately going to look into that. I am not happy that we are not still nursing. I still cry sometimes.

Thanks again everyone.
post #19 of 47
2/22/07 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
It will work if it's all you've got. Get online and find some sodium ascorbate for next time.

-Angela

Okay ... what do I do with it?
post #20 of 47
2/22/07 at 7:51pm
It's a powder you can dissolve into whatever baby drinks. I use whatever DS will not reject due to taste (usually 1/4 tsp or less), and as often as what gives him slightly runny stools. Then back off a little and that's the dose...

Others just use a dropper and dose that way so baby can't reject.

When we travel, we all drink EmergenC and I've used that in a pinch for DS too since he was drinking from a cup. I think he was somewhere between 9-12 mo...
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