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post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
I am not sure this is what it is called...

The idea is that after a child has begun to eat solid foods that you allow them to eat whatever they want whenever they want. Of course, you choose what you bring into your home. But, if you have ice cream in the house and your child wants to eat ice cream for breakfast you let them.

I have heard that the theory behind this is that the child will learn to listen to their body and self regulate their eating.

Has anybody tried this? If so, what does it look like in your home? Also, is there another name for it?

*I am also going to post this on some of the other forums to get a range of responses.
post #2 of 32
We do this, somewhat. Ice cream is the perfect example. My daughter does eat it nearly every day for breakfast, as she is usually not very hungry in the morning, and this is the only thing she can face at 6am. I fix meals, and my two teens eat them, usually, but if they want something else they fix it. They also snack whenever they are inclined.

My children are both in healthy parameters for weight, and have self-regulated what they eat. They do not have the "feast or famine" mentality that I did, growing up in a strictly regulated home where treats were few and far between. Both kids can take 2 cookies, or eat a small handful of chips and then put the bag away, something I am STILL working on.

When all is said and done, my kids will usually choose ice water over soda, and pita/hummus over potato chips. They understand healthy eating, but that everything is good, within limits.
post #3 of 32
Thread Starter 
Hmm. This is similar to what we do in our home. But, we have not taken it to that extent. My kids can eat what they want when they want from their snack drawer. I have found that even when they are in a situation where they have access to a lot of candy or cookies they will have only a small amount.

I also grew up in a home where you only ate at meal time and that food was restricted. I have a hard time turing away desserts and other"special" food items.

Do you think that your kids self regulate because as a family you focus on healthier eating? Do you think the results would be the same if you ate more junk food at home vs. hummus and pita type of foods?
post #4 of 32
This is our way more or less. Ice cream has been eaten many a night for dinner in the summer time around here and nachos for breakfast are cool by me.

We've tried to talk about eating well for the most part, and about how different foods and ingredients affect us. I think eating well for the most part and eating some of the more junky foods somewhat is fine. I'm a vegetarian that goes in for a lot of raw foods, but I also love salty chips and chocolate.
post #5 of 32
The thing is, we DO keep a lot of junk around our house. My dh loves to eat, period. I grew up on the standard crap diet, and am not an adventurous eater to this day. My dh does the shopping and he buys chips, candy, and cookies, as well as sushi, the afore-mentioned pita and hummus, and lots of exotic-to-me veggies. The kids are exposed to it all, and make their own choices. They make the conscious decision to eat healthfully most of the time, so I don't sweat the ice cream, cake and chips.
post #6 of 32
We have quite a bit of "junk" at the moment too. Although I suppose it depends on our personal definitions of junk. I've got Kashi cereal next to the Cookie Crisp cereal, Diet Pepsi Jazz soda and organic vanilla soymilk, doritos (my son's fave!), and so on.

My eating habits have changed a lot over the past few years. I grew up eating okay, but a lot of starchy fatty stuff. We were poor and we ate what we ate, ya know? Dh grew up in the midwest and his mom did a lot of fried chicken, steak and eggs, bacon grease gravy, biscuits, etc. He still sees that as the ultimate in food, but he's trying ever so slowly to eat more veggies.
post #7 of 32
I find that whatever foods we have in the house then our kids will eat it. If we don't have bad foods then they won't eat it. My oldest are good at not eating ice cream and cookies just because they are there, but my youngest isn't so good at that quite yet. It's up to me to make sure I regulate what a 4 yr old eats.
post #8 of 32
Hmm, this one is hard. We have tried both ways with our kids and I must say, I have watched my 15 yr. old put on at least 10 pounds in the last 4 mo. It is sad especially when she refuses to buy pants that fit because the number is higher than she wants to wear. She gets upset and says things like "my mother is not suppose to be skinnier than me!" And she says it like it is my fault. The difference is I have control over what I eat where she will take her money and buy crappy food. We do not keep junk food in the house, but we do keep plenty of healthy snacks. I tell them if they want junk food than they will have to buy it themselves (they both have jobs). Luckily they do not take in dairy so that uts down on a lot of milk chocolate. And the baby is allergic to nuts so anything with nuts they won't buy.
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by runnerbrit View Post
I am not sure this is what it is called...

The idea is that after a child has begun to eat solid foods that you allow them to eat whatever they want whenever they want. Of course, you choose what you bring into your home. But, if you have ice cream in the house and your child wants to eat ice cream for breakfast you let them.

I have heard that the theory behind this is that the child will learn to listen to their body and self regulate their eating.

Has anybody tried this? If so, what does it look like in your home? Also, is there another name for it?
I've tried it, and it isn't looking so good in my home, and I'm sure most of the problem is me. My first dd would self regulate on sugary things. She would eat a certain amount of sugar, but during the times she had access to candy like during certain holidays she would only eat a couple pieces and forget about the rest. But her younger sister was a candy gorger and will eat sugary things like there is no tomorrow--although sometimes it can be right in front of her and if she doesn't want it, she doesn't want it. My biggest concern is that they don't eat the healthy things at all and then eat the crappy things when they are hungry. My youngest dd would eat a full plate of spinach or beet greens or of the dinner I provided, might only eat a plate of steamed broccoli. So I didn't worry about it with her as much, but lately she's gotten picky too.

With my first I tried letting her eat what she wanted, but not having bad stuff in the house. What happened is she would taste it elsewhere and it got to the point where she would not eat the foods I had and ask me over and over and over again to go to the store and get the food she wanted. When are you going? But I'm hungry! Did you get my food yet? And so on and so on and so on. She now refuses to eat any kind of bread but white, any kind of pasta but white. Even if she doesn't know and doesn't recognize the pasta as being whole wheat, she will just take a few bites and say, "I don't like it, can I have something else?" A few times she told me it just doesn't taste the same, and now she is at the point where she only wants the brands she recognizes. The lists of foods she will actually eat is very small and isn't very healthy, but I'm hoping she will become more adventurous later. I offered her hummus last week and she wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, but she ate it as a toddler.

She will be 8 in May and she does ask me about foods and the wholesomeness of them; I've noticed her not eating certain foods (like soda) because she realizes they aren't that healthy. For awhile I would try and at least explain why the foods weren't healthy, only to have her yell at me, "I don't care about diabetes! That's your problem." So I think she is coming around a bit. I think part of the problem is that no matter what the food is, I can't say completely, "Yeah, that is healthy, you should eat a lot of it." I explain the negatives and positives of the food and I guess they think that since it's not healthy anyway, why bother.

Anyway, last night my husband bought donuts and the kids each had one. Then this morning they wanted one and asked me, so I let them have one. Then my 3 year old wanted yet another one and I said no. I was telling her no, they are bad for your heart, they'll clog your arteries, etc. She put her hand up to her chest and said, "I had a heart attack already." Now she is playing with her sister, the donut forgotten and I'm thinking I will put it out of sight.

But if they decide they want something, like chips or cookies or whatever, they are quite capable of bugging me day and night to go to the store and buy it. I'm not sure how to handle that other than saying, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no."
post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by Buddhamom View Post
It is sad especially when she refuses to buy pants that fit because the number is higher than she wants to wear. She gets upset and says things like "my mother is not suppose to be skinnier than me!" And she says it like it is my fault.
That must be tough to see and hear. I'd just gently point out that it moms and daughters come in all different shapes and sizes. Putting on and losing a bit of weight in your teens is pretty normal I think. But if she's gaining more than seems healthy for her I'd also mention, and I imagine you have, that weight depends on a variety of factors including the way we eat and excersize & that she might want to look into eating more healthy foods. That's really all you can do...in addition to trying not to take it personally anyway. lol

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The difference is I have control over what I eat where she will take her money and buy crappy food. We do not keep junk food in the house, but we do keep plenty of healthy snacks. I tell them if they want junk food than they will have to buy it themselves (they both have jobs)
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(The bold emphasis above is mine. Please don't think I am trying to pick on you but I found this interesting. You say that you have control over what you eat, but then you refuse to allow any junk food at all in the house. In that way you have control over them too. (Not saying you can't or shouldn't... just an observation.) You mentioned that she "takes her money and buys junk with it" and then you mention that you have told them if they want any junk they HAVE to buy it themselves. It seems a little bit like a trap almost, although unintentional I am sure. You don't want them to buy junk, but you've made sure the only way they can get any at all is to go buy it.

We have junk in our home and we have healthy food as well. It's been really important to me that we have some kind of balance going on (although I suppose it tips off balance toward the junk food sometimes) and that the kids see me eating healthy food most of the time and junk food some of the time so that they see it can be done.


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And the baby is allergic to nuts so anything with nuts they won't buy.
Yea totally best to avoid nuts due to that allergy, but I just wanted to mention that some nuts are an excellent source of good fat.
post #11 of 32
[QUOTE=UnschoolnMa;7419832][COLOR="DarkRed"] (The bold emphasis above is mine. Please don't think I am trying to pick on you but I found this interesting. You say that you have control over what you eat, but then you refuse to allow any junk food at all in the house. In that way you have control over them too. (Not saying you can't or shouldn't... just an observation.) You mentioned that she "takes her money and buys junk with it" and then you mention that you have told them if they want any junk they HAVE to buy it themselves. It seems a little bit like a trap almost, although unintentional I am sure. You don't want them to buy junk, but you've made sure the only way they can get any at all is to go buy it.QUOTE]


The only way anybody is going to get junk food is by buying it. We never have chips, soda and other crap in the house. We just don't buy it because DH and I don't like it and for health reasons. I watch out for transfat, high fructose corn syrup, etc. DS has never seen us eating it and doesn't ask for it. He has tasted all sorts of crap at other peoples homes so he knows that it is out there. He has never asked for it at hime though. We do make cookies and cakes at home. I also bought some girlscout cookies and occasionally buy some icecream. I have to admit I would never let any of that be served at breakfast. But DS has yet to ask for that kind of food as a meal. He has never seen it done, so I guess it has never occured for him to ask. The same thing goes with fast food. We just don't eat because DH and I don't care for it. DS has no idea what McDonalds or any of the other burger joints are.

I don't control his food. We always have lots of tasty and healthy things to eat. He is welcome to eat whatever he wants from the snack shelf and help himself to whatever he wants to drink. At meals if he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to eat it. If he is not hungry I don't force him to eat and if he is hungry he can eat.

I control the food that comes into the house, but DS controls what goes into his mouth.
post #12 of 32
Let me rephrase by saying it depends on what you consider junk food. Our oldest has Tourettes and can't have sugar and fructose so I will not buy it because it isn't something she can have not to mention it isn't healthy (i.e causes obesity, depletes immune system, whitened by animal bones,etc). I do buy soy and rice ice cream, organic cookies sweetened with rice syrup and such. DH makes cheesy popcorn by making it in a pan and sprinking nutritional yeast on it and it is great!!!! However like the PP I will NOT support trans fat nd stuff. And you emphasized HAVE, they don't HAVE to buy it, they choose to buy it. I am Buddhist and believe in mindful eating. BTW, did anyone see the article on CNN about the parents that are getting charged with child neglect because they let their child eat whatever he wants and he is almost 200 lbs. at 8 yrs. old? It was inteesting to watch.
post #13 of 32
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Let me rephrase by saying it depends on what you consider junk food.
You're so right that it does depend on definition. The definition of moderation is key as well.

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DH makes cheesy popcorn by making it in a pan and sprinking nutritional yeast on it and it is great!!!!
That sounds fabulous. I dig popcorn. I just had some organic the other day and we put some parmesan on top... so good!

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However like the PP I will NOT support trans fat.
Yea I am not into myself. The kids have started paying attention too, which is cool. I can't say we never have any trans fat in the house, but overall we avoid it.

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And you emphasized HAVE, they don't HAVE to buy it, they choose to buy it.
True enough. In our family most of the money my kids have still comes from me. I feel that if I get to buy things I like to eat at the store they should be able to have some things they like to eat too even if they aren't things I personally want to eat.

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I am Buddhist and believe in mindful eating.
Very cool. I practice Buddhism as well. I keep hoping a meditating smiley will be here lol.
post #14 of 32
I try to provide very healthy foods but avoid power struggles around this. I live about 2 and a half hours one way from Whole Foods. I was there about 2 weeks ago and the natural sodas are already gone for the month. I do see in general the choices are pretty healthy. I provide quick healthy food. I don't require my teens to eat vegeatarian as I am and my husband. I have limits on time(can't be short order cook for everyone all the time).I make three healthy vegetarian meals a week. I usally will make something with meat in it for the kids once a week. So like tonight I will make a vegan pad thai and the kids can make their own meal if this does fit with them( I stock up on healthy stir fries and TV dinners through the sales at the grocery). I try to also be balanced. I also know that when they are away, the choices are a lot different. I also get their input as much as possible. I avoid power struggles but keep the food as varied and quick as possible. Pasta, tacos, pad thai,veggie burgers are all things the whole family can enjoy.I leave lots of fresh fruit,nuts out for snacks. Often kids will go on vegetable binges-usally canned. Sallie
post #15 of 32
Our teens are ovo-veg by choice. DH and I are vegan and the baby is ovo-veg. We only buy organic items. Luckily DH works in the city and Whole Foods is right around the corner so he shops there at lunch or we go to our local co-op. I guess I just base a lot on the fact that children learn by example and if I was scarfing down a bag of Lays what message am I sending. But let me say I don't eat stuff like that anyways and it has nothing to do with the kids, I just choose to eat a strict healthy vegan diet. What I see as junk food is probably not the norm too. Like my girls would never eat a donut or hostess items as they know about the animal products and they can't stand the thought. But they will eat a bag of blue corn chips and to me, that is junk food. We have a hard time when we have to buy soda for the girls friends because we feel like we are giving them bad stuff when our kids will drink seltzer. But our kids would refuse the soda and the other kids refuse the seltzer so that is just how it is so we buy both. Now with the baby, I am lucky if she eats a bite of a carob bar.
post #16 of 32
I think that many things go into deciding what to eat- and I have bounced all around from having many fast food/junk food items to not having much at all and usually settle on inbetween-- we have several food intolerances and allergies so that alone is one thing that controls what I buy to some extent- so if the fridge is stuffed with salad makings- and we have some sort of convenence food the quick food will be made- but if I make a salad and it sits in the fridge the salad is now convenient too and may just as well get eaten as the other - also how is the food stored is it easily findable or not. I have found that I have limited the older kids from buying some things like cola.. because once they can purchase foods junk comes in even if you didn't supply it.
post #17 of 32
I find this really interesting, my husband and I come form very different families with regards to food. My family always had junk food in the house and we ate what we wanted when we were hungry.My husbands family on the other hand did not have alot of sweets or junk food. NO chips not many sweets ( very occasional) MIL always said none of her kids really ate any sweets and as a snack watching a movie or something they would get dry cereal. I was actually reflecting the other day on how or respective eating habits are now and or physical health. For example if I make baked potatoes for dinner I love a little sour cream some cheese and butter. My husband loads his up with ranch salad dressing (yuck) too overpowering for me.
I buy chips usually every week but me and DD rarely get to eat any as my DH will have the bag gone in 1-2 nights. I have found that I can't keep junk food in the house, not because I don't buy it but because it is gone within a few days of my grocery shopping. At every meal my husband stuffs himself until he is uncomfortable rather than just full.( the only time I do this is at holiday dinners) Sometimes if I am in the mood I will eat a piece of cheese cake or another sweet for breakfast or a big bowl of ice cream but also love my veggies. I think this has alot to do with how we were fed as kids. I worry because my DD seems to be following in his lead, it is like I better eat it now or it will be gone later if I want it.
Very interesting thread
Krista
post #18 of 32
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as a snack watching a movie or something they would get dry cereal
sorry but that is good our whole family eats cereal out of the box makes a good snack if you have the right kind

in my house and my mothers it was free eating you ate what you feel like
post #19 of 32
We eat dry cereal too- just like we'd eat popcorn!
post #20 of 32
I do with the right kind of cereal.
I was just trying to say that that was the only choice of snack they had was plain cherrios. I think that is why now when something "good" is around now my husband will sit there and eat the whole thing. Like a whole bag of chips. when I bought halloween candy I had to hide a couple of bags because they would be gone as quick as I could buy them. He just doesn't seem to be able to have just one of anything it's like all or nothing.I don't know maybe that comes too from being the youngest hcild and having to beat you siblings to the snacks?
Krista
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