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post #421 of 575
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Originally Posted by klg47 View Post
It was ABCs & 123s that said that
Sorry - my cycle has returned and it's made me exhausted and mindless.
post #422 of 575
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Originally Posted by marlygf View Post
I also found out my right ovary is still doing the job it's supposed to do when you're not pregnant. Hmm, I asked if I should continue charting so I won't get pregnant again. That's so not cool! My right ovary obviously missed the note that I'm pregnant.
That's crazy! What did they say about the possibility of getting pregnant again?
post #423 of 575
QUOTE=klg47;7617848]He's been associated with his Christian church since the mid 1980's. Do a Google search and decide for yourself if you think he's a closet Muslim



It was ABCs & 123s that said that [/QUOTE]

Thanks, I will look that up. That's why I stated it as a question. Just for the record I am not opposed to having someone who is Muslim in office, I just want someone who is true to their faith so to speak meaning that they wouldn't just convert to another religion b/c it shows better in the polls. I have many muslim friends and I have great respect for them and am quite avid about trying to help dispell misconceptions post 911.
post #424 of 575
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Thanks, I will look that up. That's why I stated it as a question.
I wasn't meaning to be snarky. I was going to just answer the question plainly, but when I checked to be sure, there were so many articles with different biases and different opinions. So it looks like everyone will just have to see what they believe. It's unfortunate that our political campaigns have to be like this - we have candidates being untruthful, or smear campaigns from other candidates (or their supporters), and it's hard to tell where the real truth is most of the time.
post #425 of 575
RasJane, That would be interesting. Luckily Elvis is dead

Brisen, thanks. It really does freak you out. I am starting to understand more how it is for those who miscarry. Even after hearing all this I am still worried about it. I really need to make it to 15 weeks, and I'm hoping I'll feel better then there's 20, 21, 22........ maybe 40

Katie, you know. She didn't say a whole lot just that it's a chance. I said "So, abstinence for the next 7 months" she said not, but then I asked if I should continue to chart and she seemed like that would be a good idea. Ugh, my body seems to want to get pregnant. I wouldn't even know this if I hadn't gotten this u/s. So it's like "good news, baby is great, oh and you couldn't get pregnant again!" Good Luck!

Jules is my midwife and she said this happened to her step mom, at least I think that's who it was. Anyway, she got pregnant twice by two separate men My friend got pregnant and a month later became pregnant with identical twins. Yea, good luck with that one! I'd prefer not giving birth and then two months later doing it again.
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Thanks It was a huge weight off my shoulders. My midwife called last night and said I had some sort of pocket of blood and that's why I'm bleeding. I also found out my right ovary is still doing the job it's supposed to do when you're not pregnant. Hmm, I asked if I should continue charting so I won't get pregnant again. That's so not cool! My right ovary obviously missed the note that I'm pregnant.
Hmmm.... I think I had that when I was pregnant a couple years ago, they called it a "subchorionic hemorrhage", sometimes just a "chorionic hemorrhage". Basically, as long as I stayed off my feet most of the time I was fine- it was like modified bedrest (I'm highrisk, and I've had 10+ m/c's now so bedrest is not new to me). I remember I had a garage sale- sat in the chair in the garage most of the day, then at the end of the day hemorrhaged again. The Dr. said I had "done too much"- probably walking up the two steps from the garage to the house 3-4 times that day was "too much". Do be careful though- if it's the same thing, regular activities you wouldn't think were very strenuous could trigger the bleeding. My bleeding was HUGE when it happened- with clots of tissue as big as grapefruits- literally. I had no idea you could pass that much blood and tissue and still have a living fetus in there!

It IS always so reassuring to see and hear the baby in there- I'm glad you took/had that opportunity.
post #427 of 575
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Sorry - my cycle has returned and it's made me exhausted and mindless.
LOL- I actually knew you meant me, but I'm busy and tired lately so I didn't worry about responding.

I started Byetta (for diabetes) and Synthroid (for thyroid!) last Saturday- and I'm actually feeling LOTS better all the way around.....
post #428 of 575
ABC's&123's, that is so scary! That could be what my friend had. Her's was pretty bad. My bleeding thankfully wasn't that bad, but bad enough for me to freak out. Ok wait, I can't say that. I've been freaking out a bit since I got pregnant. I've had way too many friends lose their 3rd pregnancy that I just keep thinking it's too good to be true. Oh well.

This morning I woke up and I sucked in as far as I could laying down and I could feel my hard little bump I've been doing that every morning because with my first I took pictures standing up with my bump getting bigger and with my second I would do it laying down. It's just so cool looking to have your tummy go flat and have a little bump I'm 10 weeks now so I guess we're getting closer.
post #429 of 575
Just chiming in...we might want to treat this subject carefully and sensitively since we have had some recent losses within this group.
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I had a visit yesterday, and our church is going to be trying to arrange a moms and tots group, weekly I think, It is funny, I told the Sister that I come on here, and that I have "met" some nice people and asked a ton of questions, and she said that she hope the group would be a rl version. We had a nic lesson, short but I am taking all the chances I can to connect with the spirit with my pg worries.
Funny I remembered when she came, I stopped pumping around the first of march, and had my first fast Sunday on March third....I told her how funny, by the time the second one came around I was pregnant again ...although technically I was pregnant then too, but didn't know.
post #431 of 575
I would like to see some LDS replies to this thread - "If you religiously oppose masturbation":
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=639631

I mainly want to see your responses because I'm not sure how I'm going to teach it either! I refuse to use shame or guilt.
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Originally Posted by klg47 View Post
I would like to see some LDS replies to this thread - "If you religiously oppose masturbation":
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=639631

I mainly want to see your responses because I'm not sure how I'm going to teach it either! I refuse to use shame or guilt.
I just subscribed in order to keep up with the discussion as I come up with an LDS response.
post #433 of 575
I was on the fence for awhile about this. I just thought it was so sad and cruel to tell boys not to do this when it seems so natural. I am officially against it now, though. I have had enough inspiration on the subject to realize that those strong feelings are opportunities for young men to practice self control that will eventually protect them from further temptation. We plan on telling our boys what it is all about so that they understand it and respect the feelings but don't give into them. I don't want to go to the other thread, but I'd love to discuss it here as well.
post #434 of 575
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I just thought it was so sad and cruel to tell boys not to do this when it seems so natural.

I have had enough inspiration on the subject to realize that those strong feelings are opportunities for young men to practice self control that will eventually protect them from further temptation. We plan on telling our boys
Out of curiosity, why do you only say boys? Many girls deal with this too.
post #435 of 575
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Out of curiosity, why do you only say boys? Many girls deal with this too.
Socially, though, "only" boys have this problem.
post #436 of 575
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Socially, though, "only" boys have this problem.
? I still don't get it. . .

I never had the problem, but according to others, EVERY girl does it, every day
post #437 of 575
I believe the Parent's Guide talks about this. I recall that we're not supposed to use shame or call undue attention to it with kids who are too young to understand, but that's all I can remember at the moment. So, that's not too helpful. ETA: Try chapter 5; it's more about older kids. And this is from ch 3: "One of the first things he begins to discover is his body. Male and female children will naturally discover and explore their genitals just as they do the rest of their bodies. The male infant’s genitals are very sensitive to touch. His penis responds to his diaper and to his parents’ touch as they bathe or clothe him. He will often touch and rub his own genitals. A little girl may also explore and handle her genitals. Your reaction to these natural explorations will influence the way a child later feels about his procreative powers. Do not either worry about or encourage the child’s explorations. Remain neutral, and the child will accept that these parts of his body are good, just as all the other parts are."

In my experience, girls are the ones being *encouraged* to do this more. When I was 17 or so, I attended a Girl Guide's weekend (the Canadian equivalent of Girl Scouts). They had different activities and workshops; it was for girls from groups all over the area. A big thing. They had a guest speaker at the end that everyone went to (the other activities were optional, to the extent that you had a list to choose from). The speaker was Sue Johanson, a popular sex therapist (I believe she's Canadian, so I'm not sure if she's known in the US or not). She spoke for about 2 hours and went into fairly intimate detail on how to masturbate (and about lots of other things, too). The girls there were mostly in the 13-14 age range. I was really surprised that the Girl Guides did that -- and I didn't even recall knowing that she would be speaking, it was just billed as a "special guest speaker." That's one example, but I see the same kind of thing a lot.
post #438 of 575
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Originally Posted by Brisen View Post
Do not either worry about or encourage the child’s explorations. Remain neutral, and the child will accept that these parts of his body are good, just as all the other parts are."
Good, that's what I've been doing so far.

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Originally Posted by Brisen View Post
In my experience, girls are the ones being *encouraged* to do this more.

She spoke for about 2 hours and went into fairly intimate detail on how to masturbate (and about lots of other things, too).
I think that even we, as LDS trying to stay apart from the world's perversions, would be surprised at what things we would not be interested in if we weren't constantly bombarded by sex. I am sure that many people discover masturbation on their own, but as far as I can remember, I didn't. Obviously if the speaker felt it was necessary to teach how to do it, that's the experience a lot of people have. For me, the same was true of oral sex. I was aware of what it was, but never had any thought to try it, and it never even occurred to me that I was "missing out" on anything, until I kept reading a few blogs (they were infertility blogs, lol) that mentioned it several times. I know that the view that the Church is against oral sex is unpopular on this board, so I'll leave it at that I'm just saying that if I hadn't read about it online, it would've never been an issue.
post #439 of 575
I chimed in with the thread in Spirituality, and included a lot of quotes from A Parent's Guide. It really is such a helpful book on this sort of topic!

I have an LDS friend who's 3 year old daughter likes to have her hand in her underwear whenever she gets the chance. They definitely treat it somewhat scornfully, by drawing attention to it by asking her to stop when they "catch" her, and dressing her in 1-piece clothing so she can't have access, etc. Reading A Parent's Guide is helpful to me, particularly, so I can see that it IS normal to explore, have counsel that I DON'T need to encourage or discourage it, but just teach healthy attitudes as my children grow. And explaining anatomy is my other big thing. I try to show my daughter the appropriate names of parts as she asks about them or mentions them. It's something my parents never did...I didn't know the term "labia" until I a U/S technician pointed them out in DD's ultrasound. And I did have a "sex is dirty" attitude that I still try to overcome now. I'd rather see my children understand as much about their bodies as they can, and also understand that HF expects us to control our desires and use them appropriately. You can also better control what you fully understand. And having learned as much about the male foreskin as I have over the last couple years, I truly get a kick out of watching my son discover his on his own, just as he has discovered his toes, fingers, mouth, nose, hair, and all those other body parts.
post #440 of 575
Hi everybody. It seems I'm also here for a few weeks and then gone for a few.

Lots and lots of reading to catch up on and I was trying to remember how many pages we usually get to before we start a new thread *hint* hint*!

For those who don't know me or forgot me, I'm Tara, living with dh and 2 kiddos in Utah. Grew up in the church, served a mission in Romania, met dh (he was the branch president in my last area) 3 weeks before coming home, he followed me to the states, a few years later we got married and started our little family!

This past year is my first year as a sahm and I've been loving it! Hope to chat it up soon!!
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