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post #1 of 16
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In the thread about when people took their babies to see an MD I noticed alot of moms were saying that they had to go because they needed the DR to do the PKU.

My MW had always done ours, so I was interested to know if there was some reason why more MW's don't.
post #2 of 16
I do all mine and submit to the state. But I would guess that in illegal states or in situations that a midwife doesn't want to be submitting her name and information to the state, parents would have to go to a doctor or clinic.
post #3 of 16
My midwife does it if you want it. We didn't do it last time.

-Angela
post #4 of 16
My midwife did it last time, and will do it this time as well. I am glad we did it because we found out ds had a hemoglobin factor in his blood.
post #5 of 16
My midwife did it for me, but had to stick my baby SIX... SIX TIMES... seriously one of the most horrible experiences of my life.... and then the sample was messed up and they couldn't run all the tests anyways. : At my peds office they got it in one stick and it was over in a flash, vs a long drawn out screaming affair. My MW just doesn't do it often.

I can't understand the reasoning for not doing it; given that there are metabolic disorders that, if detected, can be FIXED, I cant imagine not doing it. But damn, it is really a painful test!!!!! There should be an easier way!!!
post #6 of 16
My first two were born in the hospital with an OB and they actually had us go back to the hospital - I wasn't able to hold the baby and they stuck them in the heal 2-3 times They insisted the baby be flat on his back in an isolet and I could not nurse during :

My MW did it with my homebirth babies. She uses a heatpack on the baby's foot and massages their leg and foot to bring the blood down. Instead of a lancet that punctures she uses one that makes a little cut. All the while she is talking to the baby and telling them she is sorry and I am nursing of course. She also punctures the toe rather than the heal as she gets more blood this way and almost never has to cut again.

Keri
post #7 of 16
With our first homebirth, the midwife's asst did the heel stick and we sent the PKU in the mail.

With our second homebirth, I was going to have the ped's office do it so it would be covered by baby's insurance (we had to pay for it when we sent it in the mail) but I forgot and the ped's office never said anything about it.
post #8 of 16
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I can't understand the reasoning for not doing it; given that there are metabolic disorders that, if detected, can be FIXED, I cant imagine not doing it. But damn, it is really a painful test!!!!! There should be an easier way!!!
When dd was born TX was only testing for 5 disorders, all of which are rare and several have a genetic component. DD was at a tiny risk for any of them.

Haven't decided this time. I need to see what TX has expanded the screening to.

Really, I'm not sure I'd do it unless I was paying for the full expanded screen and that's $ we don't have right now.

-Angela
post #9 of 16
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I can't understand the reasoning for not doing it; given that there are metabolic disorders that, if detected, can be FIXED,
I agree. Although this is slightly off-topic, I'd like to share some information that we found out only after our latest birth - wish we'd known it sooner!

The PKU test is much more accurate once the mother's milk is in. Doing it prior to discharging babies from hospital (or within 24-48 hours for other births, which may be out-of-hospital) contributes to a high false-positive result - we read up to 30% false positives.

This is what happened to one of our twins in December. So the health nurse arranges for a second test. Since it's administered when babe is around 12-days old, the milk supply is established, they don't have the problems with high false-positives. Everything was fine with our son, as it would be for most children.

We were upset, though, as this process meant he was subjected to TWO screaming sessions and heel-pricks (They actually said they needed to re-test his twin as well but didn't ever explain why, since only one had failed the first test). We did the warm compresses prior but it was still awful for them.

Since we have always left the hospital when babes are well under 24-hours old, we have always been given the cards and had to take babes to the local lab ourselves. If we had known about the high false-positives re: milk supply, we always would have just waited to have the test done when they are several days/one week old rather than 24-48 hours.

I see why the government does it this way: If they are concerned with overall public health, they want to make sure to catch everyone and so re-testing on a high false-positive rate is still easier for them to adminster than following-up/chasing people around to make sure they got the test done later (since almost everyone gets tested before the babies leave the hospital). But in our case, since we agree with the reasoning behind the test, it would have been nice to know enough to wait and have the test done only once.

This could be a reason for choosing to have the PKU test administered by a doctor, rather than the midwife attending the home birth.
post #10 of 16
My midwives do it at 5 or 7 days pp. I nursed through it and my babies didn't even flinch/.
post #11 of 16
My midwife doesn't do it - I think she basically doesn't like to stick babies! From what I recall she used to, but has changed her practice now. So we took our DS in to the pedi for it. This pedi was great about it and it wasn't too bad. However, I have also heard that it is better to do it later, so we may wait to go in for a couple of weeks to do it next time.
post #12 of 16
Congrats on your new pg Heather!
post #13 of 16
i think I will have to take it to the ped due to the illegal status of dem here. Plus if I am going to have to pay out of pocket I want it to go towards my deductible. I so wish the status of things would change. i will have to go to my ob as well if this baby ends up rh+, which I really don't want to do.
post #14 of 16
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Congrats on your new pg Heather!
Thanks, Michelle!
post #15 of 16
With DS I had to take him to the ped. to get the insurance to pay for it. They wouldn't cover any procedure performed by my MW: .
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
well our MW did it, babies didn't even wake up. She uses a special lancet she says is supposed to be less painful.

My babies just get overly drunk on my milk I guess.

and and we only do it once, after the milk is in.
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