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post #141 of 479
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Originally Posted by Rachel J. View Post
2nd issue (I'm just full of questions today ), I just got my first 2 gallons of raw milk (where's the dancing cow?) and I want to make some yogurt for ds1 (the constipated guy). For now I'll probably just use Dannon since that's readily available and throw in some of the L. Reuteri probiotics I have. Is the yogurt starter from customprobiotics worth getting?

Okay, that's enough questions for now. Maybe one day soon I'll have enough experience/knowledge to give input here instead of just take, take, take.
I'm not too thrilled with Custom Probiotics yogurt starter. It's what, $45 with shipping? And the directions are wrong, you need more than 1/4 tsp. It's only if you need dairy free IMO. Otherwise, use a yogurt you like or for starters: Yogourmet or Natren, I like them both. Natren is supposed to have some super strain of Lactobacillus Bulgaricus. Sometimes I add the Acidophilus powder to it too.

Kefir and Natural Calm also for constipation.
post #142 of 479
And how old is he? Constipation has been correlated with low bifidus.
post #143 of 479
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Originally Posted by stellasmum View Post
Hi- I am getting an education here! My sister has a 2 mo old that has had every problem in the book - problems sleeping, diaper rash, yeast, gastro-intestinal cramps, diarrhea, supposed acid reflux, spitting up, continuous crying, all starting with some post-birth breathing difficulty leading to a stay in the NICU - which turned out to be "nothing"!

So what do you knowledgeable moms think about acid reflux in infants? This baby's pediatricians seem to say it's Zantac, Prevacid, Maalox (yes! for an infant!!!) tummy drops until 3-6 months?!?! No one is mentioning probiotics...I insisted to my sister it could be her intestinal flora, since mom had abx for mastitis, then a few days of abx for a phantom UTI, which she had to abandon for allergic reaction!!

this poor family!

Any advice anyone?? Mom is trying an elimination diet - but there is so much going into baby and so many things being tried it is hard to know WHAT is helping or hurting!!!
See post #20 in Healing the Gut Tribe Cheat Sheet. It's definitely the antibiotics and gut flora. Start now before the babe becomes allergic to foods. She might be now. It might be worth it to do Elimination Diet of the Top 8 allergens first if she is BF'ing. But I'd start the bifidobacteria first and see if it makes a difference in a few weeks.
post #144 of 479
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Originally Posted by Rachel J. View Post
We had Noah's 6 (actually 7)month check up today. He was 10 weeks early so actually 4 1/2 months adjusted and today weighed 10lbs, 6oz. He's not even close to being on the charts but as long has he charts with the curve there's no concern. At this point he's not quite keeping up with the curve and his ped wants me to add some calories to make sure he's growing appropriately (brain growth concerns). I'm okay with that given Noah's less than ideal or normal situation. However his ped suggested rice cereal or oatmeal and given his reaction to wheat and oats in my diet I'm not very comfortable with giving a 4 1/2 mo grains. I'd rather wait on any solids for a very long time given his apparent gut issues with food sensitivity but realistically I may need to consider boosting his calorie intake in addition to breastmilk. I'd thought about fish/cod liver oil and/or EVOO. Any thoughts, suggestions or warnings? I may call the ped back and ask to come in for a weight check in a few weeks before starting real food. This was our first visit with this ped (he was my childhood ped) and I really want to stick with him. He's totally okay with my not vaxing which is a huge relief.
I would not at all supplement with oils, just EBF for now. Just make sure your diet is full of good fats (at least a tablespoon or more of CLO, and preferably high vitamin).

LOTS of butter, preferably raw to be easiest to digest.

*NO* trans fats, they go thru to your milk. *ALL* fats you eat directly pass thru to your milk.

Cut down on vegetable oils, only olive. No canola, soy, that horrible cottonseed, or safflower. They are omega 6's and block brain building omega 3's.

The more omega 3's in your diet the more in your milk. Get omega 3 eggs and eat 3 a day. Add extra yolks to smoothies. Try to find grass fed beef. Eat lots of wild salmon, wild shellfish. Not farm raised fish, farm raised does not have omega 3s b/c their diets are unnatural (grains). Get grass fed dairy, this again has the omega 3's because the cows are eating their natural diet.... grass fed butter and high fat beef is as healthy for you as fish!

*OMEGA 3s* and Cholesterol are the brain foods. NOT oatmeal and rice. Honestly the madness of modern medicine! : The brain is mostly fat and that is a key reason BM contains a lot of omega 3 and cholesterol (but only if in your diet).

First foods for him should not be grains. Look into Weston Price feeding recs:
http://www.westonaprice.org/children/index.html

Traditional Japanese breastfeeding mama diet is 12 eggs a day for excellent omega 3 content of milk and lots of vitamin A for healthy immune system and eyesight.
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I just have to say it again, to correlate brain growth with needing to introduce rice and oatmeal is seriously screwed up. I'm going to be ranting for days on that one!

How little doctors know about the actual makeup of the human body: real nutrition, like actual vitamins and minerals and proteins and fats build body cells, b/c HELLO, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE MADE UP OF!!!

You can't get blood from a stone, and you can't get a healthy human from simple carbs with little nutritional value. That a young babe doesn't produce adequate enzymes to digest and fully assimilate yet either.

Grrrrr...

Yes I'm still PO'd I gave grains to DS as his first foods too. Full body eczema. Yeast diaper rash from hell. Don't do it!
post #146 of 479
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Originally Posted by bluets View Post
but i did find a really good website the other day:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/index.cfm

not at all glamorous but filled with useful information.

this doc, according to her writings, would never advocate a highly restrictive diet for long periods of time because one then starts reacting to everything.
She says making a healthy baby is 1% genes and 99% environmental. I think I agree.
post #147 of 479
RE: sugar, sugar is related to wheat, so many who have problems with wheat have problems with sugar and molasses.

The homeopathics seem to be helping the candida to the extent that I'm not really sticking that close to any anti-candida diet anymore and it's not a problem unless I eat a lot of sugar.
post #148 of 479
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Originally Posted by JaneS View Post
What is she allergic to and how was she tested?

Glutamine is an amino acid... it's not a whole protein, you can get it in supplement form (in addition to making bone broths which are doubly beneficial b/c of the gelatin, but of course that is a protein... she can't be allergic to all meats can she??)

I don't know about proteins and cod liver oil. I would test natural vitamin A and D pills from Carlson's made from CLO and then do flax for omega-3 as next best thing.

Vitamin C, quercitin and pycegenol are not proteins, with the last 2 being bioflavonoids.

That's good to know about glutamine. I should have guessed by the name.

She is actually allergic to amost everything right now. It's a condition called EE. Her esophagus is so swollen that she has a hard time swallowing. She vomits, has been on a feeding tube from 3 mos old but just dx a couple mos ago through biopsy. People should not have any eos cells in their esophagus. At 20 they consider that a dx. She had over 100 eos cells in one area and 50 in another. Very severe case. This is caused by a delayed IgG reaction to foods, and sometimes it is caused by airborne allergens as well.

We did both skin prick and skin patch tests and she is having reactions to about 80% of foods right now including very common ones like dairy, soy, corn, oats, rice, fish, and several fruits and veggies. We put her on an amino acid medical food and she was only allowed to have that from late Jan until Feb 20. Then the GI said try her on rice. She showed some symptoms so I took her off rice, patch tested her and sure enough she's allergic. We are trying her on white potato b/c that test came up - and she seems to do well on it. But yeah pretty much she's allergic or irritated by everything. In late April she will have another scope, hopefully it will be clear of eos cells, and we can trial her with three more foods. She's only allowed to have potatos and a couple of oils that are considered safe. I'm hoping if she's on this medical food and has a gentle and slow introduction to foods she's not reacting to so much, she will be able to tolerate more foods eventually. Most kids with EE end up being on the elemental formula for years because they can't eat enough safe foods to get full nutrition. It sucks. If we play by the rules and don't allow much to enter her diet until we are sure she can tolerate it, she can heal and perhaps her body won't react to those foods anymore, or as much.

We are vegetarian and she has not been tested for meats for that reason. If it turns out that we can get her off the tube in the distant future by allowing her to eat meats we will probably allow her to have them. But we will try all other avenues first.

I would love to give her more Vit C but I am confused about what kind to give her. I tried to give her some once but she vomited it immediately in a very violent way. I know it was not citris based but not sure what else it had in it. I need to find a pure form that does not have any fillers of corn or rice or other things she can't have. Her formula has extra vitamins for kids who can't absorb nutrients as well, so she is probably getting a balanced diet. It would be nice to give her some extra C though.

She has tested + for fish and seafood so no CLO ever. Same with peanut and corn oil. Even though they are supposed to be free of proteins I don't want to take a chance after we've come this far getting her feeling better. She has improved so much on the amino acid medical food.
post #149 of 479
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Originally Posted by USAmma View Post
That's good to know about glutamine. I should have guessed by the name.

She is actually allergic to amost everything right now. It's a condition called EE. Her esophagus is so swollen that she has a hard time swallowing. She vomits, has been on a feeding tube from 3 mos old but just dx a couple mos ago through biopsy. People should not have any eos cells in their esophagus. At 20 they consider that a dx. She had over 100 eos cells in one area and 50 in another. Very severe case. This is caused by a delayed IgG reaction to foods, and sometimes it is caused by airborne allergens as well.

We did both skin prick and skin patch tests and she is having reactions to about 80% of foods right now including very common ones like dairy, soy, corn, oats, rice, fish, and several fruits and veggies. We put her on an amino acid medical food and she was only allowed to have that from late Jan until Feb 20. Then the GI said try her on rice. She showed some symptoms so I took her off rice, patch tested her and sure enough she's allergic. We are trying her on white potato b/c that test came up - and she seems to do well on it. But yeah pretty much she's allergic or irritated by everything. In late April she will have another scope, hopefully it will be clear of eos cells, and we can trial her with three more foods. She's only allowed to have potatos and a couple of oils that are considered safe. I'm hoping if she's on this medical food and has a gentle and slow introduction to foods she's not reacting to so much, she will be able to tolerate more foods eventually. Most kids with EE end up being on the elemental formula for years because they can't eat enough safe foods to get full nutrition. It sucks. If we play by the rules and don't allow much to enter her diet until we are sure she can tolerate it, she can heal and perhaps her body won't react to those foods anymore, or as much.

We are vegetarian and she has not been tested for meats for that reason. If it turns out that we can get her off the tube in the distant future by allowing her to eat meats we will probably allow her to have them. But we will try all other avenues first.

I would love to give her more Vit C but I am confused about what kind to give her. I tried to give her some once but she vomited it immediately in a very violent way. I know it was not citris based but not sure what else it had in it. I need to find a pure form that does not have any fillers of corn or rice or other things she can't have. Her formula has extra vitamins for kids who can't absorb nutrients as well, so she is probably getting a balanced diet. It would be nice to give her some extra C though.

She has tested + for fish and seafood so no CLO ever. Same with peanut and corn oil. Even though they are supposed to be free of proteins I don't want to take a chance after we've come this far getting her feeling better. She has improved so much on the amino acid medical food.
Pretty much all vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is derived from corn. Twinlabs makes a Vit C that is derived from Sago Palm. We take the sago palm Vit C + quercetin (a natural antihistamine).

Also, have you tried Nitara on Evening Primrose Oil or Flaxseed oil?
post #150 of 479
Hey mamas. I need a little help. I bought dd some of the Flora infant probiotics which says that it has "traces" of dairy. My local HFS says that this is as good as I'm going to get with trying to get dairy free. True?

I'm having problems w/dd's poops (she's 4 months old). After I started the probiotics (2 weeks ago) she had 1 day of "normal" poop 2 days after I started them, but then right back to nasty smelly peanut butter poo so I'm going to cut out all of the top allergens (again) x2 weeks and see if there is even the slightest change. If not, I'm doing TED. I'm trying harder to be sugar free. I'm doing kombucha and am getting ready to start a batch of water kefir (even though I hear that dairy kefir is ok I'm not going to risk it with her anymore), extra strength probiotics for myself, and CLO.
post #151 of 479
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Hey mamas. I need a little help. I bought dd some of the Flora infant probiotics which says that it has "traces" of dairy. My local HFS says that this is as good as I'm going to get with trying to get dairy free. True?
No. Solaray BabyLife is dairy-free.
post #152 of 479
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Originally Posted by caedmyn View Post
No. Solaray BabyLife is dairy-free.
Thank you! Do you recommend any online sellers?
post #153 of 479
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Originally Posted by PapayaVagina View Post
Thank you! Do you recommend any online sellers?
I'm don't know of any, I'm sorry. You could try googling, though.
post #154 of 479
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Originally Posted by bluets View Post

before i got scared of GSE, i used GSE in combination with a modified candida diet (along with my glutamine stuff) to overcome it.
Can I ask why you got scared of GSE? I am curious.
post #155 of 479
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Originally Posted by bluets View Post
dh uses something called "Adrenergize". Mucho expensive. He only takes 1 pill in the morning, sometimes 1 at lunch, but was instructed NOT to take one n the evening lest he wanted to stay up all night. He DOES notice a difference, albeit a slight one, in his stress level and his anxiety (he's a pretty stressed out dude!) when he's taking the stuff. There's no way I'd be able to get him to actually eat anything that would be useful for adrenal glands, so the capsule is the next best thing. Oh yeah, he cut out coffee/mochas a few years ago, and cut out caffeinated last summer, with chocolate being his major source of caffeine now.

found this comparison (http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp) when looking to see if i had adrenal fatigue. if anything, i fall in the mixed category.

I am assuming you are referring to food of some sort. Would you mind sharing some? I think my DH would benefit them from.
post #156 of 479
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Can I ask why you got scared of GSE? I am curious.
It's supposed to kill off good bacteria as well as bad bacteria and yeasts.
post #157 of 479
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I am assuming you are referring to food of some sort. Would you mind sharing some? I think my DH would benefit them from.
http://www.enzy.com/go/EnzymaticTher...partcode=04085
post #158 of 479
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Can I ask why you got scared of GSE? I am curious.
I had read some reports that the manner in which the stuff was extracted caused contamination in and of itself - with microbiocidal compounds, having endocrine disrupting properties. I also read about how the stuff was extracted ... it is a very chemical laden process. The details are fuzzy but I decided I wasn't going to use GSE internally.

I also read a paper whereby a south African clinical study used grapefruit seeds (crunch and swallow) for treating a UTI or some such thing. Within 2 weeks since starting treatment (4-5 seeds every 8 hours for the 2 week period) the UTI was gone.
post #159 of 479
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Originally Posted by PapayaVagina View Post
Thank you! Do you recommend any online sellers?
You coudl try this place for starters: http://vitanetonline.com/description...mins/BabyLife/

A friend had some good pricing at Luckyvitamin.com but I'm not sure if they carry Solaray products.
post #160 of 479
Jane, I have heard of Wilson's but some of the symptoms don't match. I will check with my naturopath about it.
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