I'm curious. Most of you say that when hospital personal ask you if you want your child circumcised, they usually ask more than once, to the point where it becomes annoying ( and you probably just wanna kill someone), but what if you said yes? How many times would they ask you then? I'm just curious because most of you mention how different people ask the same question. If yo were to say yes would they still ask again. Because if they didn't that would prove that the hospital is trying to force unwant and unccessary surgery upon someone and isn't that illegal?
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3/3/07 at 3:02pm
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In hindsight, I really wish I would've asked the hospital staff what they would've said if I had said yes. Like the ped that said "FANTASTIC" after he asked me and I said no. Would he have just nodded and done it, or would he have tried to talk me out of it, or at least explain to me that it wasn't necessary?
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I'm thinking if you said yes, then the wound care instructions would be in the baby's chart and they would no longer need to ask.
They assume if there are no instructions of a proceedure scheduled, then someone neglected to get consent and everyone asks.
They assume if there are no instructions of a proceedure scheduled, then someone neglected to get consent and everyone asks.
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I was asked onced after Jacob was born, and after a response of "NO F**KING WAY", the head nurse got the message and grinned as I told her that, with a response of "well, we have to ask" and I aksed her who told her that and she walked away at that point...I made sure Jacob never left my side while in the hospital for my 2 day stay...

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I was asked onced after Jacob was born, and after a response of "NO F**KING WAY", the head nurse got the message and grinned as I told her that, with a response of "well, we have to ask" and I aksed her who told her that and she walked away at that point...I made sure Jacob never left my side while in the hospital for my 2 day stay...
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I thought it was unethical to solicit unneccessary surgery.
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"we have to ask" is a sign that a major shift needs to be made.
No they DON'T have to ask, and it would be fine if they didn't, even better, it would be great if they didn't perform them at all.
Jessica
No they DON'T have to ask, and it would be fine if they didn't, even better, it would be great if they didn't perform them at all.
Jessica
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3/3/07 at 10:35pm
I think the PARENTS should have to ask... NOT the hospital staff... geez... that would be the proper way to deal with unnecessary surgery (other than outlawing it of course...).
love and peace.
love and peace.

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"we have to ask"?!!!!!. I read over and over how parents request circumcision from medical staff and thats why its so common yet, here they (medical staff) are asking and asking again if somebody wants a COSMETIC PROCEDURE done on their son before they leave the hospital. As if someone might get angry that nobody ever asked if "we wanted to tear, crush and slice up our son's foreskin with no anesthesia before we left the hospital because we like the look of it blood and penis scarring with no foreskin, and we think we might be to lazy to clean his penis even though its easier to care fore than a circumcision wound!!!!".!! Someone please explain why this is legal?!!!! I'm sure i already know the answer.
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3/4/07 at 11:39pm
I was asked that question a few times too. I was thinking about it this morning and i think i understand why.
They were looking at a computer screen when they were talking to me. I dont think the question on the screen was "circumcision?" I think the question was consent to circumcise. It would automatically be "no" until they received consent. So the nurses asking it over and over are just seeing if the computer is correct with NOT having consent. They wouldnt know for sure if someone has asked or not cause it would default to no.
I'm trying to be an optimist here.
They were looking at a computer screen when they were talking to me. I dont think the question on the screen was "circumcision?" I think the question was consent to circumcise. It would automatically be "no" until they received consent. So the nurses asking it over and over are just seeing if the computer is correct with NOT having consent. They wouldnt know for sure if someone has asked or not cause it would default to no.
I'm trying to be an optimist here.

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3/5/07 at 1:38am
My friend circ'ed today-you will see my vent in another post-and she complained that they made her initial next to every risk listed on the consent form. She also consented to allow a blood transfusion just in case. I'm just relieved that they have the risks listed, but shocked that parents consent. I should ask her how many times she was approached.
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3/5/07 at 1:43am
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I actually wasn't asked at all. My OB/GYN had asked me during one of my prenatal visits whether we planned to circ, and we told her we did not. She must have noted it in my chart or something, because nobody ever mentioned it the entire time we were at the hospital.
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We were only asked once. Which is one too many times. I was ready to threaten to UA VIOLATION if he was harmed in that way or any other way but it was never brought up again and he never left mine or Dh's sight.
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They not only asked me a bunch of times, but LAUGHED at me when I wouldn't let him leave my side. One of the nurses kept saying to another nurse, "She thinks we (meaning the nurses) are doing the circumcisions now." (since there were no doctors present at the moment). I was like, "How in the hell do I know if there are doctors out there, while I'm in here?!" Then, a nurse and one of my OB's sat there saying, "Do you want him to be made fun of? HUH?" and various other pro-circ things. There I was, post-partum, emotional, trying to remember all of my pro-intact crap... it was horrible! I wrote a letter of complaint to the hospital and my OB's office.
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Nobody asked us at out hospital. I had a c-section that we knew was going to take place so we had time to plan. I told dh to be sure to follow Ivan to wherever they took him after birth and to make sure it was clear that they were to not circ him nor give him a bottle of anything.
I had Ivan room in with me. Each time they took him to the nursery for any reason I always told the nurse to be sure they "did not circ him." I now know how risky my behavior was and I will be more careful next time. I should have written it on his bassinet. Luckily we made it out of there OK.
I had Ivan room in with me. Each time they took him to the nursery for any reason I always told the nurse to be sure they "did not circ him." I now know how risky my behavior was and I will be more careful next time. I should have written it on his bassinet. Luckily we made it out of there OK.
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3/5/07 at 5:52pm
In our hospital, we have to ask. We, being the parents. Not once was circumcision brought up. I originally registered at a different hospital, while pregnant with my first child (we moved during the pregnancy), and the nurse asked me the question while she was filling out my paperwork. DH and I both responded "No" so forcefully that she kind of smirked and said "I don't even know why that question is on there anymore."
Somewhere between the birth of my first and second child, they stopped covering circumcision under Canada's healthcare plan. So I can only assume that's the reason it was never mentioned when my youngest was born.
I hope the U.S. starts experiencing the same shift, soon.
Somewhere between the birth of my first and second child, they stopped covering circumcision under Canada's healthcare plan. So I can only assume that's the reason it was never mentioned when my youngest was born.
I hope the U.S. starts experiencing the same shift, soon.
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3/6/07 at 1:03am
Nikki.. That's sweet. Make the parents specifically ask. The hospital staff shouldn't even bring it up.
jee'smom - That IS wrong. Sadly, those pro-circ people don't know that their sons will be the ones laughed at, after admitting to staring at another penis in the locker room.
jee'smom - That IS wrong. Sadly, those pro-circ people don't know that their sons will be the ones laughed at, after admitting to staring at another penis in the locker room.
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3/18/07 at 11:36pm
My MW didn't circ, but my last baby was born at a hospital. The Ob asked me if I had a boy if I wanted him circ'ed, and we said NO. Then out of curiousity, my dh (who is really anticirc) said, "Is there any medical reason for it that you know of?" and the Ob said, "None whatsoever." And dh asked, "is the pain medicine effective?" and the Ob said, "Ah, not really... babies don't fall into a deep sleep because they feel all comfy after the procedure, they go into shock. How would YOU feel if someone snipped you using a local? It'd hurt like crazy once that stuff started to wear off..."
I hope that OB tells ALL this patients some version of this. Hopefully in stronger language. No need to mutilate!!!
I hope that OB tells ALL this patients some version of this. Hopefully in stronger language. No need to mutilate!!!
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3/18/07 at 11:43pm
I noticed something shocking. We live in Ohio....let me say that first. My sister did not circ and was only asked once. The day they were to go home, the neonatologist or whatever came in to check him, asked if she circed....and when she said no, he practically high fived her! He must not see uncirc'ed babies often here in Ohio.........but his reaction was so wonderful, we were so happy! I was sitting there waiting for a lecture on procirc...but instead, this doc was giving her kudos. I wonder if he tries to educate the staff?
Just sorta made my day.
Just sorta made my day.

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3/19/07 at 12:29am
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Not only did my OB address this with me before I ever went into labor (and the answer was no) but I had it in my birthplan. I was never asked once if we were going to circumcise. At some point, the nurse brought in a paper for me to sign, declining circumcision, with a paper on "proper care" for the foreskin.
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