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No Cry Sleep Solution

Poll Results: Did the No Cry Sleep Solution work for you?

 
  • 32% (29)
    Yes
  • 67% (60)
    No
89 Total Votes  
post #1 of 48
3/3/07 at 4:37pm
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Has anyone tried the No Cry Sleep Solution? Did it work for you?
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post #2 of 48
3/3/07 at 4:43pm
Well, I said "yes," but I think that's a bit misleading. The poll's options are a bit misleading, actually, since it's not really the "solution" that the book's title promises (I suppose the book's title is misleading too, then!). We've been trying the various strategies (esp the "Pantley Pull-Off") for about 7 months now and I think they've definitely resulted in a major improvement over the long term. ds no longer nurses TO sleep: when he's done nursing, he unlatches and rolls over and goes to sleep on his own. So bedtime is much, much easier than it used to be, and nighttime wakings are less disruptive. But if you mean, did it get him to sleep 10 hours at night, then no. He still wakes up a lot, but the book has definitely been helpful.
post #3 of 48
3/3/07 at 5:03pm
No. We call it the No Cry, No Sleep, No Solution book. There's no "solution" - just random things that might help. And if they help you, great. But there was really nothing in there for us.
post #4 of 48
3/3/07 at 5:13pm
Ditto.
post #5 of 48
3/3/07 at 6:25pm
both of my older ones slept a lot better after doing the pull-off thing... woke up a lot less. great book imo.
post #6 of 48
3/3/07 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by XanaduMama View Post
Well, I said "yes," but I think that's a bit misleading. The poll's options are a bit misleading, actually, since it's not really the "solution" that the book's title promises (I suppose the book's title is misleading too, then!). We've been trying the various strategies (esp the "Pantley Pull-Off") for about 7 months now and I think they've definitely resulted in a major improvement over the long term. ds no longer nurses TO sleep: when he's done nursing, he unlatches and rolls over and goes to sleep on his own. So bedtime is much, much easier than it used to be, and nighttime wakings are less disruptive. But if you mean, did it get him to sleep 10 hours at night, then no. He still wakes up a lot, but the book has definitely been helpful.
If you've been trying the PPO for 7 mo's, don't you think that your dc may just be getting older and "solving" his own sleep problems? I dunno, I like the book but it seems like basically the advice is to just wait and then they'll grow out of it.

Don't mind me, just bitter that no one can tell me how to make my child sleep w/out waking up 5x+ a night!
post #7 of 48
3/3/07 at 7:28pm
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Don't mind me, just bitter that no one can tell me how to make my child sleep w/out waking up 5x+ a night!
I hear ya. I keep thinking there has to be SOMETHING between CIO and just waiting for her to outgrow it.
post #8 of 48
3/3/07 at 7:40pm
It didn't work for us. Absolutely none of the methods worked (and I followed it to the letter), which just made me frantic. And I got obsessed with the clock--I was either awake wondering why the heck the methods weren't working, or I was awake celebrating that she just slept 30 minutes longer than the last stretch. Crazy.
post #9 of 48
3/3/07 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by newbymom05 View Post
If you've been trying the PPO for 7 mo's, don't you think that your dc may just be getting older and "solving" his own sleep problems?
Yeah, I gotta agree with that analysis.
post #10 of 48
3/3/07 at 7:43pm
The pull off worked. The rest did not. I never had much trouble getting ds to STAY sleeping, I had problems GETTING him to sleep. A baby who lays in bed for 1.5 hours kicking his legs and staring at you in the dark-- I didn't feel that she delt with that situation. The book seemed to assume the child would fall asleep, then wake up frequently.
post #11 of 48
3/3/07 at 8:40pm
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Originally Posted by Flor View Post
The pull off worked. The rest did not. I never had much trouble getting ds to STAY sleeping, I had problems GETTING him to sleep. A baby who lays in bed for 1.5 hours kicking his legs and staring at you in the dark-- I didn't feel that she delt with that situation. The book seemed to assume the child would fall asleep, then wake up frequently.
OK, now that is interesting. I am going to have to reread it because I felt totally the opposite--it was for people whose kids wouldn't sleep, therefore I didn't find it helpful since we use the magic boob for sleep. I just don't want to have to use it every 2 hrs!

Sadly, I'm beginning to think there is no way to make anyone fall or stay asleep. Some of us seem to have been blessed w/ sleep challenged LOs.
post #12 of 48
3/4/07 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by newbymom05 View Post
If you've been trying the PPO for 7 mo's, don't you think that your dc may just be getting older and "solving" his own sleep problems?

Yep, probably true. I'll clarify and say that the pull off thing was helpful, but the rest really is tips, rather than a "solution." It was no help at all for naps, which is what I really wanted...time was the only "solution" there.
post #13 of 48
3/4/07 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by newbymom05 View Post
OK, now that is interesting. I am going to have to reread it because I felt totally the opposite--it was for people whose kids wouldn't sleep, therefore I didn't find it helpful since we use the magic boob for sleep. I just don't want to have to use it every 2 hrs!

Sadly, I'm beginning to think there is no way to make anyone fall or stay asleep. Some of us seem to have been blessed w/ sleep challenged LOs.
Well, I think I agree with you. She seemed to gloss over getting them to fall asleep-- it was either nursing or rocking or whatever, just have a routine (which we did, but it didn't seem to help at all) but had tips on how to get them to nurse less frequently or shorter duration, to not be attached all night. I didn't think she dealt with the child who would nurse, rock, read a book, sing a song, take a bath, whatever and is still awake 2 hours later!!!!
post #14 of 48
3/4/07 at 3:31pm
Nope didn't work for DD but I often mention the book in mainstream circles just so the info is out there b/c she does talk about how babies sleep and it does utt he gentleness idea out there. I don't recommend it on here b/c it is a lesson in futility...charts??? who has time for charts at 3 am? and again at 3:45 and again 4 and again and again... I was too tired!!
But in reality I feel like CIO babies aren't sleeping either it's just that their parents are.
post #15 of 48
3/4/07 at 3:51pm
Well - this is all a bummer. I am reading it now and was really hoping (praying) for the "magic" solution - I guess I shouldn't expect it now.
post #16 of 48
3/4/07 at 4:35pm
I voted yes.
But it is in no way a quick fix. IMO the only quick fix is CIO and obviously I didn't want to try that route. We are no where near sleeping through the night at 6 months but as pps have mentioned the suggestions have helped us have a more pleasant bedtime and less disruptive wakings.
I have posted on this board and other forums about our sleep problems and the only advice I have gotten is to wait it out and that he will out grow it. That was not working for us at all. Both DH and I were tired and frustrated and close to caving on the CIO position, but NCSS gave us some suggestions and other things to try. Most importantly I think that this book has helped me set realistic expectations and to have a better attitude about everything.
So I definitely say it's worth a try. You should be able to get it from a library if you are unsure about buying the book.
post #17 of 48
3/4/07 at 5:50pm
I am going to try and I'll get back to this topic soon
post #18 of 48
3/4/07 at 10:49pm
I voted yes because it was helpful in making me think of more things to try. The pull-off thing works for us but ONLY if I do it right before I lay her down. If I let unlatch then continue rocking, she wakes up the second I lay her down.

There are other things in it that we've adapted, which I think is the point of the book: there is no one fix for every child. You take whatever works for you and go from there.

But overall I liked the book. It made me think, for sure, and the suggestions didn't run counter to our approach for parenting (unlike so many other sleep books out there).

We're still nursing to sleep but not nursing as much all night (her suggestions about when a baby might just need comfort but not necessarily nursing was a big eye-opener for us and was accurate in our case).

Overall I was pleased with it, though it didn't SOLVE our sleep problems, it definitely offered some tips on how to IMPROVE things, which has been a big help overall.

I don't think there is any book or approach out there that works 100% of the time, honestly, since every child is different and their sleep needs/patterns change as they grow. What we took away from our reading of this book was that the key in our case was being able to stick with what works, but adapt on the fly as needed.

'Course I probably could have figured that out, if I weren't so dang sleep deprived all the time, and saved the $$ we spent on the book.
Either way, it's still the first book I recommend when someone asks if I know of one that might help, especially if they're considering CIO.
post #19 of 48
3/5/07 at 12:08am
I voted yes
at 11 months DS was still up 3-6x a night to nurse
I used a few different techniques in the book, including the pull off and by 12.5 months he was sleeping through the night, and by using the NCSS for Toddlers he was putting himself to sleep in the family bed by 22 months (started techniques for that at 20 months when we weaned because I had rotavirus and my milk dried up)
post #20 of 48
3/5/07 at 12:29am
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Originally Posted by nighten View Post
There are other things in it that we've adapted, which I think is the point of the book: there is no one fix for every child. You take whatever works for you and go from there.

But overall I liked the book. It made me think, for sure, and the suggestions didn't run counter to our approach for parenting (unlike so many other sleep books out there).

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YEP "worked" for us but the title is misleading in that its not one solution but a whole lot of gentle ideas, that in a combination that works for you, may lead to a solution. I am glad that it is titled tthe NCSS because it catches the interest of those who might otherwise sleeptrain there baby.