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Poll Results: Did the No Cry Sleep Solution work for you?

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post #41 of 48
No, it didn't really work for us. I did learn a lot about sleep cycles, and it did help us to create a bedtime routine, so I will say that the book does have some benefit.

We tried it in two different cycles, when DD was around 9 mos, and then again around 11 mos. The PPO just made her angry, and the constant clock-watching just made me even more obsessed with it, and more resentful of how frequently she was waking. We had many months of DD waking every 45-90 minutes, all night. And TinyBabyBean, I'm sorry to disagree with you, but it was incredibly hard on me, physically and mentally.

She's 15 months now, and sleeping 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours at a stretch, but I think the only thing that has really made a difference is transitioning her into her own sleeping space. She's now in the pack 'n play right next to our bed, and I actually get up and take her to the rocking chair to nurse her when she wakes. I found that if I nursed her in bed, she would latch on and only nurse for 30 seconds or so, and then drift off to sleep - with my nipple in her mouth! So of course she was getting hungry more often at night (and I wasn't getting any good sleep, and my back was always in knots!!). Now, I take her into her room, nurse her fully from both breasts, and then put her back into her PnP. I usually bring her back into bed with us between 5:00 and 6:00am, but her sleep is always very restless when she's in bed with us...so mainly that time is more for cuddling and nursing for comfort than sleeping.

I guess what I have come to think about the whole sleep issue is that there is no magic cure or easy solution. Some kids are sound sleepers from the beginning and some aren't, and I think that there is really only so much you can do about it if your child is one of the latter.
post #42 of 48

post #43 of 48

no - but that's okay

I read the book - we have a routine - he still can't fall asleep until 9 pm - he still nurses 2 times at night (19 months old) - but I don't mind. THe 1:00 am nursing is when I get a glass of water and the 5 am one makes me up to say goodbye to my husband. THe Pantley Pulloff - he have done it every night for 6+ months......
But i feel rested....so no worries.. .he's in bed with us so it's easy.
post #44 of 48
Originally Posted by rzberrymom View Post
It didn't work for us. Absolutely none of the methods worked (and I followed it to the letter), which just made me frantic. And I got obsessed with the clock--I was either awake wondering why the heck the methods weren't working, or I was awake celebrating that she just slept 30 minutes longer than the last stretch. Crazy.
OK... no offense, seriously, but I think that is more you than the book. Honestly she doesn't tell you to stay awake staring at the clock all night long... and of course anyone can choose to log or not log. The reason for the logs (which are only to be done every 10 days) is so you can see when there is SOME IMPROVEMENT. If you're expecting it to be perfection after ten days, yikes you'll be disappointed. But SOME IMPROVEMENT.

In my case SOME IMPROVEMENT (sigh) means that my baby now will let go of the nipple while still just barely awake and sometimes just go to sleep. It also means we occassionally get a 3 hour stretch of sleep. Which is a big improvement from up every 45 min all night long. But obviously, it's not where I want to be!!!!! So was it successful? I suppose we have to define success...
post #45 of 48
I said yes... but I guess it depends on what you mean.

I think the titles is a little misleading, since she points out over and over again that there is no one way to help a child sleep (so no "solution"). Each child is different, each family is different, and both the child and family change with time so something that does/does not work one week may not the next. I think the real value of her books (I have NCSS and the toddler version and prefer the toddler one) is that they provide a pretty clear description of "normal" sleep needs at different ages and then offer the reader dozens of different ideas which can be customized into the sleep plan that can work for you, your child, and your situation.

I never did a sleep chart and honestly didn't see them as a necessary part of the program...so I'm surprised how many mamas mention them! Especially since everyone seems to dislike doing them. I did put a paper by the bed and made a mark each time we woke up...it helped me realize that I had it a lot better than some mamas! But that was just one or two nights every couple of months.

Anyway, the toddler book helped me nightwean dd1 during my pregnancy, and when dd1 was younger it helped us create a sleep routine that worked for everyone. Now with two little ones it's helped me keep dd1's nap on track and although dd2 is still in the newborn "sleep a lot" phase I've been re-reading things to help me handle things that may come up. And it's the book I suggest to all my friends since it supports co-sleeping and breastfeeding.
post #46 of 48
Nahh... my kids don't do anything "sleep" by the book, unless the book talks about not sleeping. The only way I got my son to sleep better was to gently but firmly get him used to the crib. It's because I was 12 weeks pregnant and his keeping me up until that point was making me go totally nuts from being so tired. He regressed a bit when DD was born.

She is a pretty bad sleeper and so far putting her to bed early has backfired, it's just made her stay up MUCH later (because she thinks going to bed at 7 is a nap). I usually have to "help" her back to sleep every 45 minutes during naps and supposedly after a week they learn to do it themselves, well, she did it this morning but I will see if it's consistent after that.

Books just never have helped my kids. I've had to rely on my own instincts and try to follow their natural patterns (within reason) instead of putting them on a schedule.
post #47 of 48
Bumping to share with the mamas on the other NCSS thread.

post #48 of 48
Originally Posted by *Amy* View Post
No, it didn't really work for us. ........The PPO just made her angry...... I found that if I nursed her in bed, she would latch on and only nurse for 30 seconds or so, and then drift off to sleep - with my nipple in her mouth! So of course she was getting hungry more often at night (and I wasn't getting any good sleep, and my back was always in knots!!).
this is our situation. i've only skimmed the book, but the PPO doesn't really work here, at least it hasn't yet. for those that is has worked for, how long (weeks?) did you have to do it before your child nursed efficiantly then went to sleep?

ds will do go on and off doing the PPO thing for 30 minutes each nursing. and we're up every 1-2 hours at 5 months. i can't nurse side-lying either for the above reasons. he'll just snack on and off all night because he's never getting a full belly.
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