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Originally Posted by deethai  I hope it doesn't upset you too much majikfaerie that I bring up this thread again. It must have caused you many doubts I can imagine but I'm sure you also learned from it in many ways.
You said the pushing phase was very long from crowning until the baby was out. Do you remember how long that was?
Would you do anything different now if you were attending another birth with a long pushing phase like this? Like constantly try to monitor the heartrate or something?
I suppose after experience something like this, it gets easier to understand how people came up with all the interventions. :/
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Interesting that this thread got brought up again. We just passed the anniversary of this birth, and the mother just gave birth to a healthy boy, a few weeks earlier.
She said it's interesting; though she is sad for the baby that she lost, she is also glad, in a way, as now she has this new baby, whom she is very much in love with, and would not have met otherwise.
She also said that this birth, in a German birthing centre, was not the 'wonderful, natural, peaceful experience' her first birth had been. Though the outcome was, obviously, much better, she felt a bit sad at how the birth was handled, even though she had laboured naturally with a minimum of interventions. The midwives still did electronic monitoring, and cut the cord before she was ready, and didn't have that feeling of unconditional support.
Deethai, I guess, in the identical situation, I might try more changing positions; I had tried to get the mother to change positions in the pushing phase more, but she was in a supported squat that she was comfortable in. She didn't want to move, and when I did get her to move, she wanted to change right back.
I think in that same case, I would probably do it all the same. The more I look at it, the more I see that I did everything that could be done, and some things are meant to be. It was a hard time, but a beautiful learning. The parents were in full trust and surrender.
Different parents, different setting, I might do some things differently. Every case is judged on its own merits, and every moment too.
I wrote an article about this birth,
which can be found here
Deethai, if you like, I can give your contact to the mother, and maybe you can ask her about it.
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Originally Posted by sacredjourney Peace to you.
I just wanted to point out the strange fact that alternative practictioners (midwives, naturopaths etc) often question if the medical world could have done better in their situation, and possibly feel guilty. I wonder if medical professionals ever wonder if alternative practictioners could have done better.
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yes, I often wonder why this is the case, especially when the statistics show again and again that home birth is safer, and western countries with higher rates of midwives and less interventions have much lower infant mortality rates than in the US.
and as an epilogue; the birth in Cambodia went very well; a healthy boy was born after 8 hours of good labour.
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