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I have a chicken  

post #1 of 11
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that I would like to make soup out of. I'm thinking some kind of chicken noodle or grain soup.

Does anyone know how to do this in a traditional way? I'm thinking I'll have to roast the chicken first? Or can I make stock from a raw chicken?
post #2 of 11
You don't have to roast it first, though if you do, your soup will have a lovely roasty flavor. If you don't want to roast it first, you have a couple of options. You can cut the chicken up. You can make stock and then make soup out of the stock. You can make the soup straight without making a stock first.

I was about to type out a long-winded chefy explanation of what -I- would do with a whole chicken to make it into soup, but then I decided no one wants to hear that. Instead, I'll pass on a trick from my mother-in-law: she takes the innards, neck, and skin off, then wraps the whole bird in cheesecloth and poaches it with aromats (onion/carrot/celery/herbs) until the meat is cooked, yielding a nice mild stock. She then lets the chicken cool, strains out the broth, and picks the meat off the bones, reserving it to add back to the soup at the end.

Anyway, do you want a traditional country French recipe for roast chicken soup? If you want it, I'll write it.
post #3 of 11
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I would LOVE that recipe, if you don't mind! I'm pretty cluless here
post #4 of 11
OK, here's what I would do.

Roast the chicken. (I assume you have a way to do this, so I'll not go into that)
Remove the skin and discard unless you want it to flavor your stock. If you're using it, cut it into large-ish pieces.
Pick the meat off the bones and reserve. Don't be too aggressive with the picking - leave the hangers-on, they'll make your stock taste good. Chop the carcass into a few manageable pieces, using reason (you know, cut at the joints and so on.)

Take the bones and put them in the bottom of a stock/soup pot with about 1/2T of oil, lard, fat, whatever. When the oil is hot, add 2 cups rough-cut onions, 2 cloves rough chopped garlic, and 1 cup each rough-cut carrots and celery. Allow these vegetables to cook about 5 minutes on medium heat, stirring only occasionally. Now add the organs, which have been roughly chopped. Cook another 3 minutes. Now turn the heat to high, wait 60 seconds, then add 3-4oz beer (it's up to you what kind, whatever's laying around is fine). Let this cook off, then cover the chicken bones with water (or chix broth, if you have it). Add two generous pinches of kosher salt, a sprig of thyme, and a bay leaf. Bring to a boil, then reduce to a simmer and cook about 1 hour, skimming occasionally to de-fat.

Strain this stock and reserve. Wipe out your soup pot. Heat 1tsp cooking fat, and add 2c medium-dice onion, 2c medium dice potatoes (optional), 2 cloves minced garlic, and 1c each medium dice celery and carrot. Cook about 5 minutes, stirring occasionally, turn the heat up to high, and add 3-4 oz beer (sound familiar yet?). Cook away the beer, then add the stock you made. Bring to a boil and add any other vegetables you'd like to include (green peas, corn, whatever). Season, simmer 1/2 hour, re-season, and serve over long-grain wild rice.

I season my vegetables when they go into the cooking fat with kosher salt.
I re-season with any additional needed salt, fresh ground black pepper, and a couple dashes each of Tabasco and Worcestershire. Not enough to taste, just enough to give things a little kick.
post #5 of 11
Yum that sounds good!

Quesiton about the beer though - would wine work as a sub? I am more likely to have wine around than beer. I am not sure if it is the alcohol that you are adding it for (then wine would work) or something else in the beer - like the yeasts or whatever.

Thanks for sharing that!
post #6 of 11
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thanks so much!
post #7 of 11
Wine would work fine, I personally prefer the taste of beer when cooking things like chicken soup because I find that white wine is a little too acidic; plus, I like the effects of the effervescence on the cooking process when the mirepoix are browning. It's totally about flavor and personal taste; white wine can absolutely be substituted.
post #8 of 11
Great! Now that you've described it that way, I'll have to make sure to try it out with beer though
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by artemis33 View Post
Great! Now that you've described it that way, I'll have to make sure to try it out with beer though
It's a nice way to be, cause you can drink what you don't put in the food!
post #10 of 11
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Okay, I'm making this soup today. So far so good! I'm just in the stock stage.

Anyway, I was digging around for other veggies to throw in and found a package of frozen spinach. Do you think this would be good? I don't really know how to cook with greens at all.
post #11 of 11
When I saw the title, I immediately thought you had a live chicken and you were going to ask how to kill it

I personally wouldn't put spinach in a soup because it can get a grassy taste when it cooks too long. If you decide to put it in, do it at the last minute so it doesn't get overcooked.

Kale and collards are good soup greens because they can withstand longer cooking and reheating.
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