natural deoderant - Page 5

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Paigerina

Has anyone tried Dr. Hauschka deodorant? I'm somewhat interested in trying it but discouraged by the fact that every natural deodorant I have tried has either burned, or left my clothes with a strange stale smell or both.

Poor Dr. Hauschka! I've no idea who s/he is nor of hir products, but I feel sorry for him that somebody here has tried a number of products classified somehow as "natural", and has identified hir product similarly as "natural", and was therefore discouraged from trying it. "Natural" must cover an awful lot of ground; is there anything specific that these products have in common?

Robert

[Paigerina]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Poor Dr. Hauschka! I've no idea who s/he is nor of hir products, but I feel sorry for him that somebody here has tried a number of products classified somehow as "natural", and has identified hir product similarly as "natural", and was therefore discouraged from trying it. "Natural" must cover an awful lot of ground; is there anything specific that these products have in common?

Robert

I've never seen Dr. Hauschka deodorant in a store where other Dr. Hauschka products are sold. I haven't looked at the back of Dr. Hauschka deodorant to see what ingredients it contains, so I don't know how it compares to the other deodorants I referred to as natural. I referred to them as natural (which is obviously a vague term) because they don't contain parabens or aluminum. The brands I've tried are Tom's of Maine and Jason.

I try to avoid products that contain ingredients I've read are potentially harmful. Since I was disappointed by Tom's and Jason deodorants, and many who responded to this thread were disappointed by common brands of "natural" deodorant, I was discouraged. I hope I'll like Dr. Hauschka better.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Paigerina

I've never seen Dr. Hauschka deodorant in a store where other Dr. Hauschka products are sold. I haven't looked at the back of Dr. Hauschka deodorant to see what ingredients it contains, so I don't know how it compares to the other deodorants I referred to as natural. I refered to them as natural (which is obviously a vague term) because they don't contain parabens or aluminum, and I bought them at an organic food co-op. The brands I tried were Tom's of Maine and Jason.

I often avoid products that contain ingredients I have read are potentially harmful, and such products are often referred to as natural. Since I was disappointed by Tom's and Jason deodorants, and many who responded to this thread were disappointed by common brands of "natural" deodorant, I was discouraged. I hope I'll like Dr. Hauschka or Funk Butter better.

Is triclosan on the "potentially harmful" list? I don't use deodorant routinely, but my friend Nancy accidentally left with me a stick that she'd picked up in her travels which I'm guessing to be made by a private label mfr., but is in any case probably a common formula. This particular one is called Health Care (with a fancy "HC" logo) Ladies stick deodorant, "powder fresh", distributed by Great Lakes Wholesale, Wyoming MI 49509, but made in Canada. Ingredients: propylene glycol, deionized water, sodium stearate, fragrance, triclosan. Basically it's the antibacterial triclosan in a mass of hard soap softened with water & propylene glycol, and perfumed. Presumably the triclosan preserves it as well as killing armpit bacteria, so it doesn't need any other preservative.

Robert

[Peppamint]

Isn't triclosan what they use in antibacterial soap- and it's been banned in the UK because it can cause cancer?

[reducereuserecycle]

i use lifekind salt spray w/ lavendar

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by busybusymomma

Isn't triclosan what they use in antibacterial soap

Yes, and the deodorant stick mentioned above is in effect a softened stick of soap.

- and it's been banned in the UK because it can cause cancer?

No, it's still legal in the UK, and authorities there have affirmed its safety, although some have stores stopped selling toothpastes containing it. Triclosan is not a common ingredient of toothpastes in the USA.

Robert

[Paigerina]

Propylene glycol is also on this list of dangerous chemicals:

http://www.searchforthecause.org/tfsc_overview.html

Some background info about the list:

http://www.searchforthecause.org/tfsc_overview.html

I've tried Dr. Hauschka roll-on deodorant since my last post. Unfortunately, it burns my underarms after shaving, as many deodorants do. But I love many other Dr. Hauschka products. I think I'll try Dr. Hauschka's non-talc deodorant body powder next.

You can find a huge selection of organic beauty products at www.saffronrouge.com. Many of you may be familiar with the site already. I came across it a week ago.

Check out how they evaluate their products here:

http://www.saffronrouge.com/site/con...evaluates.html

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Paigerina

Propylene glycol is also on this list of dangerous chemicals:

http://www.searchforthecause.org/tfsc_overview.html

I looked at their dirty dozen and at their alternatives list (Why does 1 page occupy 2 megabytes of PDF?! Had to reboot into Linux to view it.), and sorry, but I distrust the info. I could go into the scientific reasons, but right now I'll just point out that they don't give references, they're inaccurate, vague, conflate trivial concerns with significant ones, and are strangely selective in their att'n. I suspect the dirty dozen to have been selected deliberately to enhance the reputation of products which for various other reasons have left them out.

Robert

[Paigerina]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I looked at their dirty dozen and at their alternatives list (Why does 1 page occupy 2 megabytes of PDF?! Had to reboot into Linux to view it.), and sorry, but I distrust the info. I could go into the scientific reasons, but right now I'll just point out that they don't give references, they're inaccurate, vague, conflate trivial concerns with significant ones, and are strangely selective in their att'n. I suspect the dirty dozen to have been selected deliberately to enhance the reputation of products which for various other reasons have left them out.

Robert

I didn't suggest the list I referenced is definitive, or that anyone rely on one source of unreferenced information. I've seen several such lists. All differ slightly from one another. After I look over such a list, I look up the questionable ingredients to get more information from other sources, as I'm sure many people do. I think it's best to do your own research and draw your own conclusions.

[Grrlsix]

I've seen this Dirty Dozen list on a couple of websites and other similar lists.
One such list was developed in Marin County California because they had the highest cancer rates in the USA.

These lists are meant to serve as a guide and bring public awareness to what may be potentially harmful ingredients/chemicals in everyday household and personal care products that we use. I agree with you 100% that everyone should be responsible for educating themselves about potential health risks caused by any product, and be willing to thoroughly research any ingredients, articles, or studies that may suggest a product is hazardous to our health or environment.

[bugsmom125]

Natural Deodorant

I use baking soda for deodorant, I have been using for some time now, it takes some getting used to but it really works, I was amazed, I just put some in a little plastic container and put 8-10 squirts of any body spray and then apply to underarms, if you don't want any scent omit the body spray

[lioralourie]

I haven't read all the posts, but thought I'd add on...

What about Origins deodorant? For me, it really works and i like the scent. I'm sure there are some problematic ingredients but it is aluminum free, and at least a couple steps more natural than mainstream products. I've not used mainstream stuff for a long time, and I'm still having stink issues even with washing/TTO/lavender/ but I use Origins for special occasions (can't buy it in China). Gotta try that B.S. another poster mentioned. Gawsh, I use it for everything else, why not underarm dust?? haha

[Grrlsix]

Baking soda is a great deodorizer. It's one of the ingredients in the Funk Butter and I believe that's what make this deodorant so effective in keeping the Funk away!

[Grrlsix]

Bump!

[leomom]

Originally Posted by naerae_30

I finally tried the homemade funk butter recipe and I added cornstarck and some kaolin clay, Vitamin E, vanilla spice fragrance oil and lavendar EO. No stink at all! Even the next day. Nothing! My pits are not peeling or burning either...it's awesome! I did a sweat challenge, too. I took dd to see the butterfly exhibit and b/c she is SO active, we ended up doing laps around the whole exhibit (she was running and I was chasing). It was 80 degrees in there AND I had a long-sleeved shirt on! So, no stink, nothing, and I never reapplied.

Thanks for the recipe!

Anyone else use EOs in deoderant? Anyone else anything other than lavender?

Where might I find kaolin clay? What ratio of this stuff do you use? Also, how do you buy your Vit. E?

What could I package this stuff in? Something I might have around the house..

TIA!!!!!

[lioralourie]

update!!! I started using BS exclusively after posting back in August and I've learned a few things.

EO under my armpits (or any residue from soaps) contributes mightily to stink!!
I've been rinsing well (after using something like Dr. Bronner's liquid peppermint castile soap for washing) . (for the record, I DO shave there)

Then dusting Baking Soda with my fingertips on dry underarms. That's IT. I've even gone a couple of days without washing, or putting B.S. on either, and all was well. I even decided to test it out and went biking on day 3 once. And even that was not horrible, just the tiniest bit musty, honestly.

So I enthusiastically endorse Baking Soda and...washing every other day or so. It's working really well for me!

[newgreenmomma]

I was just testifying to my sister last night how I've switched to the crystal/stone and how awesome it is. I'm totally impressed. My underarms are so nice now. They are not all gunked up with weird skin and hair issues. They shave so nicely now.
I was shopping yesterday and tried on some clothes. I realized half way through I didn't have to worry about getting white marks on the clothes I was trying on. It was great.

I'm going to buy one for each of my sisters for christmas to try.

[erthe_mama]

Originally Posted by lioralourie

So I enthusiastically endorse Baking Soda and...washing every other day or so. It's working really well for me!

Same here! Baking soda frickin rocks. No smell. At all. Even after two days.

I've used funk butter, and it works well, but only for the day. If it's a sweaty day, for probably most of the day, but not all. But it does smell REALLY nice.

The crystal/stone doesn't work for me at all. It's like not putting on anything at all. Weird.