Please Don't Flame Me, but Vax Question - Page 2

[spero]

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

As many posts as I have read on this and other parenting forums (both liberal/alternative like this one, and a more conservative forum), I've NEVER read one about a vaccination reaction.

I am doing delayed vaccination with my son and he had two vaccinations today. He had a (mild) reaction to one, which left my calm, sweet baby screaming for mercy (his little leg was a bit swollen and red at the vaccination site).

Will I just be told by all of you that this is what I get for giving him a vaccination? Or are there others out there who can talk to me about this event in a compassionate way, with understanding?

Was one of the vaxes the DTaP? There are several threads regarding the "DTaP scream" (which, btw, many of us do not consider to be a mild or normal reaction) in the main vax forum.

Originally Posted by alegna

Do NOT give tylenol or motrin. The body doesn't need anything else to deal with.

I agree with this, if there is fever. The fever is likely working to counter the vaccine toxins.

I did read that your babe had no fever, that you were only trying to alleviate the pain. In that case, I would give an appropriate dose of ibuprofen (Motrin) - but never acetaminophen (Tylenol).

Come over to the vax board. Plenty of stories of reactions there, including several moms who have lost children to vaccines.

Reactions vary, and there's a wide range. Yes, we have mamas here who have lost their babes to the most extreme vax reaction, death.

I have two children now dealing with vax damage, in the form of Asperger's Syndrome and Type 1 diabetes.

Originally Posted by Plummeting

I'm sorry your baby had a reaction. No one ever deserves something like that - especially when you're doing what you think is best! Besides, it isn't about you or what you "deserve" - this is a child. Anyone who would say that you deserved for your child to have a vaccine reaction is heartless. I don't think you'll find anyone like that here.

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I only hope, OP, that this incident will serve as a catalyst for you to further research vaccines BEFORE you consent to any more.

[sugarlumpkin]

He only got 2 vaccines--neither of them were DTap. The reaction was to HiB--and the reason I say that is because the reaction was swelling, redness, and heat at the injection site. I know and the doctor knew which vaccination went in which leg, so we knew if was the HiB.

And, though I thank you for the sympathy, our child will be vaccinated, so please stop telling me to stop.

[Plummeting]

Sugarlumpkin, the crying could be totally unrelated to the Hib, though. If your baby cried for more than 2 hours and the cry was an unusual cry, it was probably caused by the DTaP, regardless of which leg swelled. Vaccine reactions, even and maybe even especially serious ones, often happen in the absence of any outward symptom such as swelling at the injection site. Screaming syndrome, which is almost always caused by DTaP, is frequently not associated with any swelling, redness, heat or anything else noticeable at the injection site or anywhere else. If it was just your run of the mill cry, it could've been from the sick feeling vaccines can cause, but if it wasn't, it was probably related to the pertussis vaccine.

Whichever it was, it is worth considering skipping that vaccine - at least until he's older. If my child had a weird reaction to a medication, I wouldn't give her that medication again. Same for vaccines.

[mamakay]

Was the other shot Prevnar?

[sophiekat]

Originally Posted by Plummeting

Whichever it was, it is worth considering skipping that vaccine - at least until he's older. If my child had a weird reaction to a medication, I wouldn't give her that medication again. Same for vaccines.

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especially since reactions can increase in severity when subsequent doses are given.

[iamleabee]

i'm glad your son is feeling better. (hug) some people say no motrin under 6mos and some say under 2mos. tylenol is indicated for any age.

[spero]

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

And, though I thank you for the sympathy, our child will be vaccinated, so please stop telling me to stop.

I didn't tell you to stop.
But I am imploring you to research further.
Only b/c I wish someone had done the same for me.

[mykdsmomy]

Originally Posted by iamleabee

i'm glad your son is feeling better. (hug) some people say no motrin under 6mos and some say under 2mos. tylenol is indicated for any age.

Tylenol has also been known to weaken the immune system....which is something you dont want after a vaccine....you might look into arnica...which is a homeopathic remedy

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

The reaction was to HiB--and the reason I say that is because the reaction was swelling, redness, and heat at the injection site. I know and the doctor knew which vaccination went in which leg, so we knew if was the HiB.

You can report the reactions to VAERS: https://secure.vaers.org/VaersDataEntryintro.htm

Click on "Enter VAERS data"



You stated in your first post that you wanted to "talk about this event" and your thread title states that you have a question.

This is the question you asked:

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

Will I just be told by all of you that this is what I get for giving him a vaccination?

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

Or are there others out there who can talk to me about this event in a compassionate way, with understanding?

What exactly do you want to talk about?
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[alegna]

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

And, though I thank you for the sympathy, our child will be vaccinated, so please stop telling me to stop.

I'm confused. What is your purpose for being here? If you are going to vaccinate anyway, but you don't like the reactions, what is your purpose in posting? What do you think the solution is?

-Angela

[spero]

OK, I have a few more observations.

Originally Posted by sugarlumpkin

I've NEVER read one about a vaccination reaction.

I'm curious, why the emphasis? Because you believe that reactions are few and far between, based on the "many posts" you've read on other forums? You claim you've not seen any here either - yet the vax forum is full of threads about reactions.

He had a (mild) reaction to one, which left my calm, sweet baby screaming for mercy (his little leg was a bit swollen and red at the vaccination site).

This statement is such a contradiction, IMO. You temper "screaming for mercy" with "a (mild) reaction" and "a bit red and swollen". Like you are trying to convince yourself, even though the reaction was obviously not all that mild to your baby.

I'm sure you'll disagree, but I think you are personally conflicted here. This is exactly why I wish you would research further before just dismissing us all as unfeeling flamers

Will I just be told by all of you that this is what I get for giving him a vaccination?

who only want to force our POV on you

our child will be vaccinated, so please stop telling me to stop.

Or are there others out there who can talk to me about this event in a compassionate way, with understanding?

So, by "others" you mean only selective/delayed vaxers?
Now I'm confused, too. Did you come here looking only for validation and a pat on the back? I noticed that you were online when the several of the recent replies came up, and that you seem to be deliberately choosing not to address them.

It might help if you were a little more clear about your intentions, and what information you are looking for.