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another frustrating thing is that for work, I work part time and do some working from home, but in order for me to remote desktop into my work computer and our network, I have to leave my computer at work turned on : although I do turn the monitor off. I keep asking our tech support folks to come up w/ a better way!
I'm in the same situation. There is a way to remotely wake up a machine, but I don't know exactly how. It has something to do with setting something in the remote computer's BIOS. I think it's called "Wakeup On Lan" or WOL? Maybe you could mention that to your tech support folks and they would know what that is or at least be able to research it? I haven't approached our support group yet...
post #22 of 752
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http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer/.../mytopic=10070

this gives a good rule of thumb - if not using your computer for more than 20 minutes, then turn the monitor off; if not using for more than 2 hours, then turn the CPU off

But I agree about the time it takes, especially w/ older models so sometimes I leave mine on too...

another frustrating thing is that for work, I work part time and do some working from home, but in order for me to remote desktop into my work computer and our network, I have to leave my computer at work turned on : although I do turn the monitor off. I keep asking our tech support folks to come up w/ a better way!

Yeah, I've got this one to turn the monitor off after 10 minutes and the hard disks after 20. That's all this Win98 Dell will do...it won't do the "hibernate" thing newer models can where it truly powers off but comes back with your desktop exactly as you left it, with everything saved and all of that.

But even then, if any of these things are left plugged in we know that they're still consuming something. So technically we should all be turning it all off and unplugging it, including the power bar! But when I get a quick baby break I just don't have time to wait for it all to come on. Bummer.

And I totally understand remote access...our personal machines have the power-down thing going but the servers are 24x7, as is the DVR. If we power them down, we'd have no music or TV (except for live TV and who watches that anymore, especially with kids who'll see the ads?). All of our hundreds of CDs are on our MP3 server (note: all within fair use, we do not steal music), and I serve up playlists for my daughter through the day.

Of course, NONE of this would have a carbon footprint if we could afford solar panels. Nevada Power does a rebate up to $15,000 but I read up on it and we'd need the $25,000 system to be totally on solar, and we don't have that upfront or even the $10,000 difference...and that's only if we get chosen for the rebate because not eveyrone who applies does, since it's limited. The state should be subsidizing the panels so every roof has them!

At least Nevada Power is putting up Nevada Solar One soon, which allegedlly will make our consumption the greenest percentage in the country. About frickin' time.

I've got links but baby's up gotta run....
post #23 of 752
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3 months and almost 1600 posts after Eli's_mommy started the first Green Living Tribe thread, we're overdue for a new thread!

I'll keep this first post updated with links (like the list started by noorhajan) and other helpful info.

Welcome!
If you try to live green, you've found the right tribe! Feel free to post questions, rants, success stories--anything!

If you'd like to make a pledge to work on certain areas, check out the Green Living Challenge.

A special thanks to Eli's_mommy for starting the first ever Green Living Tribe thread!

Tribe History:
Part I

Thank you!!!!

Still trying to be as green as I can. I've really been on hiatus from the lovely tribe for sometime...I finally got a house (I know I mentioned that once before), and I can focus more on making my entire life green!

I'm going to start by better insulating my home. It's pretty old and could definately use weatherstripping and more insulation in the attic (and double pane windows for that matter!)

I encourage all of you to check out my best friends' blog- she has a ton of green living resources listed in her linkys, not to mention, she herself is in construction and interior design and has a ton of great and spectacular ideas!!!!!
post #24 of 752
thanks for the new thread.. the other one was daunting!
post #25 of 752
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Thank you!!!!



I encourage all of you to check out my best friends' blog- she has a ton of green living resources listed in her linkys, not to mention, she herself is in construction and interior design and has a ton of great and spectacular ideas!!!!!
Where is her blog?
post #26 of 752
YEah! Thanks for starting us fresh again! I was having a hard time with the sheer size of the last one! : I have this paper due tomorrow for my political geography course that I've had soooooo much fun writing... I'd like to share if anyone wants to read:

Here's the assignment:

Geography 4321

In this essay, respond to this quote thinking about what Leopold means and how it relates to your life.

“We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.” ~Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac

I would like you to craft a response in three parts. First, explain what Leopold means? How is land a commodity, and is his sentiment that ‘we do not respect and love our land’ accurate? Perhaps you might want to define “we.” Second, what consumption or lifestyle practices lead to your commodification of land and territory? Explain how you as an individual might be part of the problem. In the third part, think about ways in which you might think about your relationship with land as part of your community and how you might be more careful about your practices in the future. What will you do or change about yourself to take a more progressive view towards improving environmental health?

And here's what I've got so far:

Exercise III- Aldo Leopold & the Land Ethic


"We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect." –Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac

In the above statement Aldo Leopold is explaining that it is our perspective of land that is causing an imbalanced relationship with it. Leopold is referring to the American commercial perspective of land as commodity; an item of value that can be traded, bought or sold. Aldo begs that we view land as a “community” not a “commodity”. Land is commodified not only by sale and purchase but also through objectivity that it has inherent worth of value. The perspective of land as having implicit value leads consequentially such activities such as mining, timber extraction, intensive grazing and monoculture. These activities are intrinsic to American commerce in Aldo’s day as well as today. In the sixty years since the publication of A Sand County Almanac and hence this quotation there is yet to be a philosophical shift in the general American public, the above statement is as pertinent and relevant now as it was then. We, average Americans, do not love and respect the land.
Despite the fact that I consider myself to be an environmentalist I also participate in this philosophy perhaps as a result of living under the “American rule” of capitalism and consumption. I “own” my own portion of the land when I made the purchase of my condominium. Notwithstanding the grounds beneath and encompassing our building are community owned by our HOA we none the less “own” the property and are responsible for maintenance, adherence to city code and regulation and are subject to violations of such. It would be difficult to argue that I am any less responsible for commodification than the average homeowner or even oil speculator because philosophically the foundation of possession remains the same.
Admitting I own real property though fundamentally not the picture of the “community” ethic as Leopold may imply does not inherently mean I am absent to his ideals and philosophy. On the contrary I find it quite healthy to be able to care for family in a culturally accepted way, for although my family enjoys squatting on Federal Forest land for a short duration on a yearly basis (for the Annual Gathering of the Rainbow Family of Living Light) this is not acceptable nor necessarily Leopold’s idea for “healthy land” use for true communal living to take place an extended basis. However having participated in the Gathering of 25,000 and upward fashioning our own sanitation system and water supplies is quite impressive and encompasses a true need for people, land and biota to be perceived as a single community (closest perhaps to the philosophy to the land ethic one might find in the present culture) I doubt that a return to nomadic living on a full time basis is a viable or attractive solution.
I do share Aldo Leopold’s convictions and I do my part as a steward of the land to promote a positive and loving view of our one and only planet in numerous ways. The majority of the produce my family consumes is grown about a mile from our home in San Marcos, TX at the community gardens. Every bit of vegetable matter and that is not consumed in our household is turned back into soil via the compost bin we created in our small flower garden. As each of our conventional light bulbs expires (the ones that came with the purchase of our home) we replace them with compact fluorescent light bulbs, and of course turn them off when not necessary. We have recently replaced our antiquated washing machine with a high efficiency front-loading model (and in only one month have had an eighty dollar saving on our electricity alone)! We are also in process of remodeling our master bathroom in which the old commode will be replaced with a more water savvy one as well as consideration taken to consider the longevity and durability of the products we choose for our new powder room. It has been a priority for us to replace the appliances that squander the most water even though we pay a flat rate for water through our HOA, this is likely an uncommon perspective.
Many of my parenting choices are also made with consideration of the big Mother (Earth). We chose to have our daughter at home with a midwife (and her assistant) in attendance and as is our plan for our next little one underway. A home birth (two women and one small bag of equipment coming to your home) entails a fraction of energy and resources when compared the massive infrastructure of the hospital. I also exclusively breastfed my daughter until she was ready for solid foods which I then made for her. Breastfeeding does not require any additional packaging, advertising and transport and so is the best choice for one following the philosophy of the land ethic. There are many, many more ways in which my family attempts to live lightly on the land. The important thing is that green living is our philosophy and part of our everyday life. I like to think when my fellow friends and neighbors see me pull up the bicycle rack and pull my daughter and cloth bags out of the Doodlebug bicycle trailer at the grocery store I am showing the world that things can be done in ways other than the conventional. I know I’ve made an impact on my friends in such a way and I’m sure my children will eventually learn the strange and wasteful ways of the world when they begin to associate more and more with peers. In the meantime I find myself quite satisfied with navigating through the obstacles of compassionate living while sustaining my family in a material world.



I'm just going to close it with ways I try and do my part. That's why I went back to refer to my original post here at the GLT. I welcome any constructive criticism. English was not my first language so I tend to have issues with structure and wordiness! If you made it to the end thatnks for reading!
post #27 of 752
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English was not my first language so I tend to have issues with structure and wordiness! If you made it to the end thatnks for reading!

for english not being your 1st language...wow. I was reading that thinking it sounded very well put together and thought out.
post #28 of 752
Thanks BMT!

I just edited so you could read the end part... that's the best part if you ask me. My major is geography with an empasis in resource and environmental studies and I find it exciting to pull my passions and philosopy into a class like political geography (and history and the others)!
post #29 of 752
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Where is her blog?
Please excuse me- I'm slowly losing my mind!

http://newhaydens.blogspot.com/

She's got some cool posts (some related to green living, some not...), but the links off to the left have great resources. She is in interior design and her husband owns a construction business and they're both into green design. If you have any questions, I'm sure she wouldn't mind if you posted them on her blog. She had spectacular ideas!
post #30 of 752
The nytimes.com has an article about a family trying to live with no/little impact for a year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/22/garden/22impact.html

It is interesting how much of this we do!
post #31 of 752
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The nytimes.com has an article about a family trying to live with no/little impact for a year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/22/garden/22impact.html

It is interesting how much of this we do!

Very inspiring and cheers for them for pushing through it, esp living in the city. We too already do a lot, and are heading more and more in that direction, I would say that my family is probably already half way there... thigh-high income draining boots are not a part of my wardrobe and no one delivers us coffee in the morning .

One thought, and not really a critique but more a thought, they both wouldn't have their well paying jobs if there wasn't a carbon hogging infrastructure to deliver their books and magazines...trucks and printers and paper...I wonder what steps could be taken beyond their home to reduce the impact, could they both survive by going online? I'm not harping on them for not being perfect , just wondering how far they could take the no impact.
post #32 of 752

question about natural body care

Totally off topic....does anyone have any good natural body wash recipes?
I posted under mindful home management but didn't get much response, but I did get one recipe. I am just hoping for more options just to try different things for fun. Any essential oils I should avoid being pregnant?
post #33 of 752
turnipmama-
don't have any recipes for you but definately avoid peppermint eo.
post #34 of 752
turnipmama - this recipe was on the board a long time ago (not sure what the recipe you were already given was):
1/2 cup grounds from freshly brewed coffee
-1 cup turbinado sugar
-1/4 cup olive oil
-1 T vanilla
-15 drops of peppermint eo
Mix everything, keeps about 1 week at room temperature, longer in the fridge
I would think you could just cut out the peppermint eo, or sub with something else that appeals to you.

Angelica, Anise, Bay, Basil, Carrot Seed, Chamomile, Celery Seed, Clary Sage, Fennel, Rose, Peppermint, Thyme, Frankensence, Hyssop, Myrrh, Marjoram, Juniper and Jasmine were recently on a list my midwifery professor passed around as potentially harmful during pregnancy (from Churchill Livingston, 2002). The list also included Lavendar though, which I have always known to be one of the safest during pregnancy. So, take all this with a grain of salt.

Katia
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subbing
post #36 of 752
Have you guys seen the blog of the girl who has challenged herself to live plastic-free for a year? She's been running into issues that I wouldn't have even considered, such as -- do you realize how difficult it can be in some areas to find tofu that doesn't use plastic packaging?

http://plasticfree.blogspot.com/
post #37 of 752
I was poking around for a cheap source of reusable bags for shopping and I found this:

http://cheaptotes.com/canvas_tote_bag_8.html

Is there a catch? What am I missing? Because that price seems too good to be true....


And did you see this? More reasons to love IKEA...

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...31088920070222
post #38 of 752
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I was poking around for a cheap source of reusable bags for shopping and I found this:

http://cheaptotes.com/canvas_tote_bag_8.html

Is there a catch? What am I missing? Because that price seems too good to be true....
I'm guessing that the bags are fairly thin. I have a couple of cloth bags made of really thin fabric that I got for free from something or other. They don't hold up terribly well, but they can be used a lot more often than one of those awful plastic grocery bags. You could probably make the same quality tote bag for less with an old sheet.

Personally, I'd spend a little more money and get the sturdier bags. You'll get more for your money that way.

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And did you see this? More reasons to love IKEA...

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...31088920070222
Yay, IKEA!
post #39 of 752
turnipmama - baking soda is a nice, simple, easy body wash (and shampoo for that matter). I try not to use much more than water and the baking soda for places that need a scrub. It preserves your natural oils so you don't have to replace them with lotions, etc.

On the bag tip, aren't the plastic ones you get at the store horribly inferior when you are used to bringing your own (when somehow your bags didn't make it to the store with you) ? I saw a pattern for crocheting (or was it knitting) your own reusable bags out of old plastic ones. A great way to re-USE those old ones that tend to build up in your house even if you are very good about bringing your own bags.

Oh and did you see this: http://earthhour.smh.com.au/ I know its in Australia, but has anyone heard of a US version? I suppose we could do it here anyway....
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Oh and did you see this: http://earthhour.smh.com.au/ I know its in Australia, but has anyone heard of a US version? I suppose we could do it here anyway....
cool! I'd be in - would you post something over in activism and mindful home management (since it is cutting energy bills).. too? Do you have any ideas for what we propose people do? Here is what the website says-

SIGN UP TO EARTH HOUR and commit to turning off your lights on 31 March from 7.30pm to 8.30pm. It's free!

GET OFF STANDBY Unplug any appliances - mobile phone charger, TV, microwave, MP3 player - that are not being used and are on standby. Appliances left on standby account for up to 10% of the average household's electricity use.

SPREAD THE WORD about Earth Hour by involving your friends and family. Encourage them to sign-up turn off their lights at 7.30pm Saturday 31 March 2007.
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