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post #701 of 752
Just found you! I try to do my part with green living, but we live in a very poorly insulated apartment with no balcony/yard. We are able to walk to the local grocery, and we usually bus to a larger grocery biweekly. We only drive to the store once every few months, when we're loading up on heavy stuff.

Two thoughts...as I said, our apartment is poorly insulated. And the central heat sucks - the bedrooms are constantly freezing while the living/dining area is roasting (the temperature difference can be as wide as 15 degrees!!!). This is with doors open and insulation sheets over the windows. We have a spaceheater in each bedroom, which we usually put on a four-hour timer before bed. So, is it more green to use the electric spaceheaters, or to run up the gas bill and just live with the cold bedrooms? My son's not the best about staying covered up at night.

Also, I've heard that if a CFL breaks, you could end up with a hazardous waste situation due to mercury. I've got a toddler who pulls everything over and breaks it, so CFLs are only in wall-mounted lamps right now. Does anyone have any resources on exactly HOW dangerous the mercury in CFLs actually is?
post #702 of 752
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post #703 of 752
What does "subbing" mean? I've only seen it on threads here, lol!
post #704 of 752
Subscribing - so you get notifications when the tread is updated
post #705 of 752
Thank you...that's shorter than "Marking my spot," lol!
post #706 of 752
Consumer Reports just did an article on handling and disposal of broken CFL bulbs, and I believe it is free on their website:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/h...bulbs-safe.htm
post #707 of 752
That's scary stuff! Hmm...maybe I'll go ahead and do the ceiling fixtures, though. At least I know it won't cause a need for a toxic-waste swat team to swoop in!

Thanks!
post #708 of 752
All but one of my lights/lamps now have those bulbs. They won't fit in one of my floor lamps...so I plan on getting a new lamp. Hmmm, maybe I can pop into a store after bringing ds to the doc today.
post #709 of 752
Need suggestions guys --

DD's Bday is coming up and we want to have a Sesame Street themed party. I don't wanna go buy a bunch of SS themed party paraphenalia. Any ideas on how to turn my kitchen and living room into Sesame Street on the green:? Thanks!
post #710 of 752
Use red and yellow crepe streamers and plates/cups/napkins and just get a sesame street themed banner or table decoration? Or some big character helium balloons with everything else matching solid colors? Maybe get some character stuff from the thrift store? I'm sure they have tons. If you find Sesame Street books at the thrift store, you could cut pictures out and make a poster, or decorate a banner. Actually, there might be some printables online you could use at pbskids.

I remember having an album called "Sesame Street Disco". I wonder if that is still around anywhere?

Disposable napkins/plates aren't very green, but you could possibly find some plastic durable ones that could be washed and used for future parties.

Good luck
post #711 of 752
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Originally Posted by Manonash View Post
we want to have a Sesame Street themed party. I don't wanna go buy a bunch of SS themed party paraphenalia. Any ideas on how to turn my kitchen and living room into Sesame Street on the green:? Thanks!

My daughter loves SS too, and I did a fairly green party for her...reusable plates and cutlery, only small amounts of balloons and streamers, and for goodie bags I got canvas bags from Oriental Trading and painted each kid's name on it, then put not-too-eco-bad toys in each, and nothing disposable.

I concentrated the SS and other TV faves on her cake: http://kimberlychapman.com/crafts/ca....html#bday2007




Separate issue:

Cell Phones Prolong Your Commute
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...700846,00.html

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Drivers on cell phones, even on hands-free devices, travel more slowly
than other drivers, are less likely to pass sluggish vehicles and
ultimately take longer to complete their commute — researchers
estimate that such distracted drivers lengthen the average car commute
by about 5% to 10%. That amounts to only a few extra minutes a day,
but those minutes add up...An additional 30 to 50 hours of yearly
commuting time per person costs society broadly too — in fuel
consumption, poorer air quality, and lost productivity at work. "When
you take all the delays and aggregate them on a national level it is a
staggering cost," says Peter Martin, associate professor of civil and
environmental engineering and director of the University of Utah
Traffic Lab.
****

I've always been against cell phones while driving. I never do it, ever, not for any reason.

Cell phone drivers THINK they're doing just fine. This study and plenty others like it show otherwise. If you drive and use your cell phone, you are putting the lives of everyone around you in danger, and now it's revealed you're slowing down traffic and wasting fuel too. So please don't do it. It's not considerate, it's not safe, it's NOT ECO-FRIENDLY...it's just plain NOT OKAY.

And before anyone says that they HAVE to take calls, please bear in mind that my FIL is a doctor treating critically ill children. He gets emergency life and death calls. He ALWAYS finds time to pull over before answering. ALWAYS. If he can find time, so can everyone else. There's simply no excuse for driving and using the phone at the same time, ever.
post #712 of 752
subbing.

First time I saw this thread. I haven't read it all yet, but wanted to drop in and say HI! I have been slowly incorporating living "greener" over the last couple of years.
post #713 of 752
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimberlychapman View Post
Cell Phones Prolong Your Commute
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...700846,00.html

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Drivers on cell phones, even on hands-free devices, travel more slowly
than other drivers, are less likely to pass sluggish vehicles and
ultimately take longer to complete their commute — researchers
estimate that such distracted drivers lengthen the average car commute
by about 5% to 10%. That amounts to only a few extra minutes a day,
but those minutes add up...An additional 30 to 50 hours of yearly
commuting time per person costs society broadly too — in fuel
consumption, poorer air quality, and lost productivity at work.
...
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Okay, I am NOT saying that talking on a cell phone while driving is a good idea, but since when is getting there faster using less fuel? Driving slower usually burns less fuel. That's why during the energy crisis of the 70s the speed limits were lowered to 55 nationwide — to save gas! I have NOT read all the article, but I did want to point that little nugget out. Driving 55 and not riding the brakes is usually going to save you more fuel than your average 80mph NASCAR freeway commuter. To reiterate, I am not advocating talking on your cell as a fuel saving device (although I suppose there could be situations...), but just 'cause you're getting there faster doesn't mean you're eco-friendly.
post #714 of 752
Perhaps you should read the whole article, because then you'd know they're not saying driving faster or slower in and of itself is the greater fuel consumption, it's the overall bad driving habits of those on cell phones causing all traffic to slower, thus jam up, thus lead to longer time driving, thus increase fuel consumption.
post #715 of 752
About the Sesame Street party-

my kids like to play around at pbskids.org,
and I'm pretty sure they stumbled over a section where you can print out stuff specifically designed for party decorations.

Oops. I found it. They have a bunch of different themes, but no Sesame Street. You'd think it would be a popular one!

http://www.pbs.org/parents/birthdays...rge/index.html
post #716 of 752
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimberlychapman View Post
Perhaps you should read the whole article, because then you'd know they're not saying driving faster or slower in and of itself is the greater fuel consumption, it's the overall bad driving habits of those on cell phones causing all traffic to slower, thus jam up, thus lead to longer time driving, thus increase fuel consumption.
Well, I did go and read it after I posted, but I didn't get that from it. I did understand the bit about cell phone users don't switch lanes as often and will stay behind a slower vehicle rather than move to a faster moving lane, but I don't know that that's going to save on fuel. Just re-read it again for the third time and I still don't get that. They do say this (bolding mine):

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...700846,00.html
Quote:
These distracted drivers not only pose a safety hazard, but, as new data suggests, they may be slowing down your commute.

Drivers on cell phones, even on hands-free devices, travel more slowly than other drivers, are less likely to pass sluggish vehicles and ultimately take longer to complete their commute...
It says that they may slow other drivers down, but definitely slow themselves down. All I'm saying is slower is not necessarily more fuel consumptive. The hour long commuter certainly still could be losing a weekend a year from talking on the cell, but that commuter may actually be saving fuel. It's possible. I think the Time article is too fluffy to figure out whether they would or wouldn't be and it doesn't sound like the study was designed to measure fuel consumption, but rather lost time.

If anybody out there is interested in crazy fuel saving driving check out hypermiling. It's not safe, but those people can get 100 mph from a Prius.
post #717 of 752
I just wanted to add that I think the important and fairly obvious thing about talking on cell phones vs talking to a live person in the car is this:

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...700846,00.html
Quote:
"You communicate differently when you are in the car with someone because both people are aware of and can adjust to conditions that might require more concentration," Strayer says. The passenger may point out an upcoming exit, help navigate, alert you to a sudden stop, or understand when bad weather requires quiet concentration.
I am not advocating talking on cells while driving I just think that that article doesn't really demonstrate that you use more fuel to do so. I am sure that those hypermiler guys (and maybe a gal or two) don't use cells while they drive so they can really concentrate on how they need to drive to save fuel (59 mpg in an accord).
post #718 of 752
post #719 of 752
Quote:
Originally Posted by VivC View Post
Two thoughts...as I said, our apartment is poorly insulated. And the central heat sucks - the bedrooms are constantly freezing while the living/dining area is roasting (the temperature difference can be as wide as 15 degrees!!!). This is with doors open and insulation sheets over the windows. We have a spaceheater in each bedroom, which we usually put on a four-hour timer before bed. So, is it more green to use the electric spaceheaters, or to run up the gas bill and just live with the cold bedrooms? My son's not the best about staying covered up at night.
You'd be better off (from an energy stand-point) using the space heaters. When you have problems with uneven heating, they can be very helpful in heating a specific space without doing it by overkill with the central heat. What is your son wearing as far as pajamas go? We generally try to keep them in blanket sleepers (with socks and a long-sleeved T underneath) or the (double-layer) flannel jammies their grandma made them. And yeah, part of this is because they're not good at keeping covered up.
post #720 of 752
He wears a blanket sleeper covering a pair of socks and a onesie. He just wakes up too early if it's cold in there. The insulation/heating situation in our apartment is insane!!!
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