Cradle Cap still, she's 3! (added photos) - Page 2

[caramelcoffee_mama]

: My ds is 3 soon and I thought we were doing something wrong since his comes back every few months. whew!

[proudmamanow]

we've just noticed this in dd in the last 2-3 months. She's almost 2. She HATES having her hair washed, combed or touched. But we will definitely try the apricot oil idea.
Thanks for the info!

[straighthaircurly]

This exactly what my ds went through and my ped recommended dandruff shampoo but I didn't do that since it seemed overly harsh. I asked the people who cut his hair and they said switch to Paul Mitchell's Baby Don't Cry shampoo. We have no more problems now! I buy it at Kid's Hair but I am sure you could buy it online or at a place that specializes in cutting kids hair.

[bryannastreasure]

for what it's worth, Carlin's was getting bad again and I was going to do an overnight oil treatment 'soon'.

but then we all came down with lice, and low and behold the lice shampoo and all the hours of combing has cleared up the cradle crap. not recommended though, that stuff is harsh.

once a year or so, I soak his head in olive oil, pin an old towel on his pillow and send him to bed. In the morning I can brush out the scales with a boars bristle brush and shampoo.

bryanna

[Uma'sMom]

WELEDA makes an amazing calendula cream i use for my baby girl. She gets lots of crusty on the top, behind the ears and sometimes in the eyebrows. Her skin gets oily-dry and the cream (very gentle and natural) has helped her a lot. I use the calendula soap for her hair. No bathing unless she does not pass the sniff test. No soap on her body. I hope it helps
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[Yooper]

My 3.5 yo still has it. I am wondering what no-poo fmailies do? I have used apricot oil in the past with great success. But I have been no-poo for over a year and switched dd over about 6 months ago. It is great for her! But now I do not know how to get the oil out without using shampoo. Any ideas? Currently, we use nothing but water on her.

[damyen's mommy]

Both of my babes still have this. My ped said it was dandruff. I leave it alone. It doesn't bother either of my kids. I use a shampoo bar made out of goats milk and twice a month I use a teatree oil peppermint poo bar. It takes away the itchies, I use it all the time for dry skin. My dd loves baths she takes one daily if not two. My ds maybe 1 or 2 a week. If its needed . I don't push it unless he is stinky. Anyway shampoo bars are great. Good luck

[frenchie]

Originally Posted by Yooper

My 3.5 yo still has it. I am wondering what no-poo fmailies do? I have used apricot oil in the past with great success. But I have been no-poo for over a year and switched dd over about 6 months ago. It is great for her! But now I do not know how to get the oil out without using shampoo. Any ideas? Currently, we use nothing but water on her.

You cannot break down the oil without shampoo. Is it the SLS that you are trying to avoid? There are LOADS os SLS free shampoos on the market. There are still surfactants in SLS free shampoos that can break down the oils, it will just take a few shampoos to get it out.
If you're shampoo free...what are you using to remove excess oils from the scalp? You know, you can use conditioner. I highly recommend using something, especially on your child. My son has very curly hair. I shampoo his hair with SLS free shampoo once a week, and just use conditioner the rest of the week to keep his curls moisturized and detangled (it's long, and we shower daily). All you have to do is massage the conditioner into the scalp real good, let it sit for about 5 minutes, massage some more, and rinse. This will remove excess oil and debris and keep the scalp and hair moisturized.
For those of you who bathe your children once or twice a week...do your children never get outside and get dirty? By the end of the day, the bottom of my son's feet are almost black, his hair is a mess and he's just....dirty. He NEEDS a bath everyday!

[Yooper]

Originally Posted by frenchie

You cannot break down the oil without shampoo. Is it the SLS that you are trying to avoid? There are LOADS os SLS free shampoos on the market. There are still surfactants in SLS free shampoos that can break down the oils, it will just take a few shampoos to get it out.
If you're shampoo free...what are you using to remove excess oils from the scalp? You know, you can use conditioner. I highly recommend using something, especially on your child. My son has very curly hair. I shampoo his hair with SLS free shampoo once a week, and just use conditioner the rest of the week to keep his curls moisturized and detangled (it's long, and we shower daily). All you have to do is massage the conditioner into the scalp real good, let it sit for about 5 minutes, massage some more, and rinse. This will remove excess oil and debris and keep the scalp and hair moisturized.
For those of you who bathe your children once or twice a week...do your children never get outside and get dirty? By the end of the day, the bottom of my son's feet are almost black, his hair is a mess and he's just....dirty. He NEEDS a bath everyday!

We have just found that putting anything, even SLS free shampoo, messes up dd's hair. Using plain old water seems to work best to keep her clean yet not stripping any of the natural oils out. Same with my own hair. I am wondering if a little baking soda would help cut the oil?

It is winter here and dd never leaves the house without being fully covered. So, yeah, she gets by without a bath for sometimes up to two weeks. In the summer, she needs one more often, but even then, usually she gets clean enough in the sprinkler or baby pool or lake

[meowee]

Originally Posted by Rockies5

I thougth it was simply called dandruff after a certain age.

I believe the technical term is seborrheic dermatitis.

I used t-gel after all the scabs healed and the scales went away... I used it as a preventative after I dealt with the problem.

I tried every natural thing under the sun, btw.

[frenchie]

Originally Posted by Yooper

We have just found that putting anything, even SLS free shampoo, messes up dd's hair. Using plain old water seems to work best to keep her clean yet not stripping any of the natural oils out. Same with my own hair. I am wondering if a little baking soda would help cut the oil?

It is winter here and dd never leaves the house without being fully covered. So, yeah, she gets by without a bath for sometimes up to two weeks. In the summer, she needs one more often, but even then, usually she gets clean enough in the sprinkler or baby pool or lake

Just use a conditioner on her hair, and don't bother with oil at all. Try Deva Curl products. They have a product called "no poo", which is a conditioner type product to cleanse the hair and scalp. It's not a shampoo in any way shape or form. It's a cream consistancy, and if I remember correctly, it has an olive oil base. You can find it online or at salons. You might have more luck finding it online though.

ETA: I'm a professional hairdresser.

[brookely ash]

my 5 yo still has cradel cap.

we went to the naturopath for a check up today.

i mentionted the cradle cap to her. i also mentioned that sometimes his finger nails peel back (Just the top layer, not the whole nail) and that he has chapped lips often and that he often has a LOT of earwax (but no ear infections)

she said that it was all linked to a carb based diet. my ds is VERY PICKY. he eats carbs, dairy and fruit - most of which breaks down into sugar. this is one of the ways for the body to deal with sugar.

she reccomended more healthy fats and oils for him. he started cod liver oil about a week ago, but we upped his dose for the next month.

i beleive that this condition is more of an internal condition.

i'll update after a few more weeks of the codliver oil and changing his diet a bit.

[Fiddlemom]

Originally Posted by meowee

I believe the technical term is seborrheic dermatitis.

I used t-gel after all the scabs healed and the scales went away... I used it as a preventative after I dealt with the problem.

I tried every natural thing under the sun, btw.

ditto on everything.

My son's was so bad that if the scales were taken off the hair came too. The doctor didn't believe me when I said he had 'mange', so I showed him (it wasn't painful to do this, just annoying to ds). so, needless to say, combing out would have done nothing but make a huge, disgusting, horrible, unnecessary mess.

without combing out the scales, I did one wash with Nizoral. Nasty chemicals, but it was either that or be partially bald all the time. it worked fine, no scraping off scales necessary. They seemed to re-adhere naturally to the scalp. I only have to do this once every 6 months or so.

[littlehawksmom]

My son ahs had problems with it in the past-up to around age 3.5, when we finally removed all the gluten from his diet and upped the CLO.
I definitely think it is food related.
Good luck!

[straighthaircurly]

Originally Posted by frenchie

For those of you who bathe your children once or twice a week...do your children never get outside and get dirty? By the end of the day, the bottom of my son's feet are almost black, his hair is a mess and he's just....dirty. He NEEDS a bath everyday!

In the winter we only bath a couple times a week, because heck how dirty can you get in the snow when you are bundled from head to toe in cold weather gear And the air is so dry that bathing more often just dries out the skin. When he is sick he often takes two bathes a day with California Baby bubble bath in it, but we don't "wash" him or shampoo his hair. In the summer I am constantly throwing him in the tub if he has been barefoot outside or dumping dirt over his head

[angela&avery]

Originally Posted by straighthaircurly

In the winter we only bath a couple times a week, because heck how dirty can you get in the snow when you are bundled from head to toe in cold weather gear And the air is so dry that bathing more often just dries out the skin. When he is sick he often takes two bathes a day with California Baby bubble bath in it, but we don't "wash" him or shampoo his hair. In the summer I am constantly throwing him in the tub if he has been barefoot outside or dumping dirt over his head

We are the same here. In the winter, my kids get very dry and I simply cant bathe them everyday, and its not necessary. Now, though, that my ds is 5, he is, uhm, stinkier, and I try to keep him on an every other day schedule. In the summer, its the same if not better, if we are swimming every day, i simply bathe them because their hair is so dirty, but otherwise they are fine. We always have the wading pool, sprinkler, swimming pool, lake. Of course, beach days are bath days, though.... sticky sand and all.

[ReadingMama]

Originally Posted by meowee

I believe the technical term is seborrheic dermatitis.

I used t-gel after all the scabs healed and the scales went away... I used it as a preventative after I dealt with the problem.

Yep, it's seborrheic dermatitis. My son had "cradle cap" from babyhood to 3. I thought his just took a long time to go away. He didn't have any more problems with it until a year and a half ago when he got a burn on his scalp. The pediatrician said the trauma to his scalp triggered a flare up of seborrheic dermatitis, which he's had all along. He just hadn't had a flare up of it since he was 3.

Our doctor prescribed a steroid mousse called Luxiq that you apply directly to the scalp to get the initial inflammation under control. And we use T-gel to maintain it. We didn't use a comb to get rid of the scales because it was red and inflammed and tender. I just scrubbed his scalp a lot with my nails during baths and scrubbed the scales off that way (they are easier to get off when the scalp has been wet for a while.)

It's a build up of excess oil, so you gotta wash it frequently. If you can't do frequent baths, what about washing just the scalp and hair over the sink?

P.S. Where are the photos?

[Tiffany_PartyOf5]

Ha! We live in Florida so its already summer weather here.. Today was in the 80s and we broke out the sprinklers Anyways, my son gets a bath every other day because he is literally black with dirt from playing in the sandbox or rolling in the yard.. his hair is washed every other bath (so every 4 days) mainly because its a PITA to wash his hair he fights it so much lol.. I know this is gonna be horrible but when he starts itching his head, thats when I know its time to wash his hair LMAO.. Umm.. dd gets a bath every other day too because she wants to bathe with big brother but I wash her hair every bath because its sooo curly and long that it tangles easily and gets really nasty and greasy every other day.. and Alex (10 month old) gets a bath about once a week, maybe once every other week. I give them a good wipe down/sponge bath every night though before bed