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post #741 of 753
Hillary, you are just on a roll!! I love hearing these manifesting success stories!

Pat, it sounds like such an awesome evening!

Ok, did anyone listen to the last Masters of the Secret recording with just Bill Harris? In case there was any doubt, this man is definitely not teaching LoA. I was actually chuckling through a lot of it.

He says one of the missing steps from The Secret is that you have to take action – wanting something and doing nothing to get it will get you nowhere. Ok, I do agree that you most often have to do something to line yourself up with what is coming to you. However, I disagree with his examples and assumptions on this. He said you can’t ‘wish’ for a glass of lemonade and have one appear. And if you do wish and someone happens to walk in with lemonade for you, that’s just a coincidence and is nothing to do with you setting an intention. He says the only real way to manifest yourself some lemonade is to go get it yourself. Talk about limited thinking! Not to mention a complete disconnect from the idea that you create your own reality. How can you say you create your own reality in one breath, and then say that this is only true in XYZ circumstances in the next?

The other thing he says is that you must do something of value. He went on to say that people that do things of more value get paid more and then used the example of the burger flipper – the skill is not as valuable, so it doesn’t get as much. There is so much about this that is off base in my opinion. First of all, it has nothing to do with LoA. Secondly, it implies that there are people out there not providing value, which is simply not true. Everyone on this earth, regardless of what they do, has value. To say otherwise is just ridiculous. Not to mention that it is all wrapped up in our social money ‘rules’ and negates the value of ‘jobs’ like caring for your own kids.

He even said that the only time a person would give you anything is if you’re providing some direct value to them, which is so not true. I give things to people I barely/don’t know all the time, and I’ve received things from random strangers. Heck, think Freecycle.

When listening, I got the sense that he was trying to distance himself from the ‘true’ LoA supporters and working to line up with the more mainstream ‘reasonable’ people. It was like listening to someone trying to re-package LoA to remove the woo-woo controversy, though in reality it made it sound much worse to me.

So, anyone else listen to it yet?
post #742 of 753
I haven't. I'm not real interested in him, to be totally honest. I appreciate the Masters of the Secret interviews, and I love holosynch... but I honestly just throw most of his stuff out. :

With him, for me, it's very "take what you want and leave a heck of a lot."


Oh, and I would appreciate some more critiques on my site, I have changed it massively. Thank you.

www.amris-messagesoflove.com
post #743 of 753
I totally agree with you Amris! I've been saying that all along. I love the people he interviews, but kind of zone out a lot of what he's saying. But I wanted to hear his big wrap-up spiel just to see where he went with it... I wasn't disappointed in my expectations. I think the guy has a great program, and an interesting marketing approach, but I just don't see him as a poster child for LoA!
post #744 of 753
KoalaMama, I haven't listened to that one, but I've noticed that in the publicity they've all said that action is a requirement. I think it's a copout... it would be complicated to explain how action is sometimes involved and sometimes not, and I think they needed something more sound-bitey to defend the dvd in publicity, and/or to communicate with a certain target audience they are focusing on. I guess the people who are open to another interpretation will go deeper and find out the other dimensions of the action question, through other teachers or whatnot.
post #745 of 753
Amris, Your changes on your site are great -- much more compelling to get someone to buy the book. I'd say you're finding your formula! And it looks like you've been researching "direct marketing" sales letters -- which is probably the best way to sell stuff on the internet. Great job, mama!
post #746 of 753
I haven't heard that one yet. Is that at the end of the Michael Beckwith interview or is there another entire download after him? I just listened to Canfield yesterday and was surprised that it didn't spark me as much as the previous ones. I was looking forward to it because he was one of my favorites from the movie but his interview didn't give me any "aha" moments. Weird.

Anyway, I do think action is required, maybe more so than most of the other people on this thread, but I also think that denying that a person can manifest something without action is wrong. If I "wished" (as he put it) for a glass of lemonade and someone walked in with one for me, no way in heck I'd not give thanks for it and congratulate myself on good manifesting I don't know the "rules" of when action is required and when it isn't but maybe it's about the "inspired" part of inspired action. When you're inspired to do something, maybe that means action is necessary

Amris, I like it The first thing I noticed is how the red writing (born alone/die alone) looks great not wrapping around in the middle. And I like the "what people are saying" scattered through the page but can't remember if you had it that way before.
post #747 of 753
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Originally Posted by sphinxie View Post
KoalaMama, I haven't listened to that one, but I've noticed that in the publicity they've all said that action is a requirement. I think it's a copout... it would be complicated to explain how action is sometimes involved and sometimes not, and I think they needed something more sound-bitey to defend the dvd in publicity, and/or to communicate with a certain target audience they are focusing on. I guess the people who are open to another interpretation will go deeper and find out the other dimensions of the action question, through other teachers or whatnot.
I'm not sure about the specific publicity reference, but I agree that *perception* is more relevant than action with LoA, imo. Awareness, clarity, and openness to receiving seem more the process, than ACTION, in my experience. Yet, just wishful thinking is more *wanting*, without gratitude for the now.

Pat
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post #749 of 753
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So, while I believe there must be some action in the physical universe, there doesn't necessarily have to be a direct line between intention and action in order to manifest the reality we choose. The Universe is full of surprises and often knows a better and faster way to give us what we want. So we must be ready to let go and have faith to get the best results. I believe.
This is exactly it! I absolutely believe action is a necessary and desired part of our experience. But inspired action is about lining yourself up with the universe and accepting what is coming to you, not pushing away at something and do, do, doing. I think beating the action drum without acknowledgement of this important piece of information is just missing the point entirely.
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post #751 of 753
Yes, this is why there are people out there that others look at and say "you're so lucky" and "you always get your own way" and "good things always happen to you". Those are people that line themselves up and take action when inspired.

One of the Abraham-Hicks CDs has some comments about inspired vs. non-inspired action. They use the Hicks' as an example of success that defies the traditional action viewpoint, and say there is not enough action in the world to lead to that kind of success. It is about aligning with your desires and taking inspired action, not about plugging away.
post #752 of 753
How I see the action part of LoA is once you start envisioning what you want you naturally start acting like a person who would have that in their life.

ie. I want to be a prenatal yoga teacher. The more I envision the end result the more likely I am to wake up everyday and do yoga. The more likely I am to google prenatal yoga teachers and then the Universe lines up the perfect situation for me. There is action, but it comes more from the excitement of manifesting the end result.

ie. When we first decided we wanted to move to X we got so excited dh went online to start looking at real estate. That made us even more excited which led to phone calls and trips which led to our end result.

I guess I am describing inspired action, where I am letting go of forcing a situation or "trying" to make something work and just naturally acting off the impulses following our bliss provides.


HOpe everyone is having a happy Sunday!
post #753 of 753
Has anyone started a new weekly thread yet?

Yes, apparently, I needed some *inspired action* to find it! http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=646221

Pat
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