|Originally posted by marcy74
Yes, it was helpful. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I guess I was under that impression because of that documentary. One Rabbi told a gay man that he needed to go to therapy and overcome this. Which I guess isn't really saying he didn't have compassion, he just thought this man could change, and the gay man felt very hurt and abandoned by this Rabbi.
Another man told his parents he was gay and they sent him to Israel to "straighten him out." That just doesn't seem very compassionate to me. You don't do what we think you should be doing, so we don't want to see you until you do! His father was a Rabbi, I think.
Marcy, so you are saying that individuals who are religious, torah observant can also be uncompassionate and judgemental? Yeah, sad but true.
In your previous post, that I was responding to, you made it sound like torah observant religious leaders previously felt that certain peple did not deserve G-d's love and mercy. THAT is simply not true. The individual torah observant person has personality
trait faults that cause him to occasionaly act wrongly toward others, or not handle situations properly. Or some people simply do not have the capacity to deal with ppl so outside of their view of "normal". Sad, but true. Those are individual's faults and circumstances. They may say something about the individual and his behavior. That does not mean it reflects on G-d's "thoughts" or "feelings" about another individual or their standing with G-d.
|If I were to go to our local Synagogue, I wonder if the Rabbi there may have an entirely different view on it than a Rabbi in a more liberal area. Or am I misunderstanding how Judaism works?
I'm not sure what "view" you are starting with. Normative torah thought sees male/ male anal sex as a prohibition from the torah. Just as a jewish man having sex with a niddah
(menstuating) jewish woman is prohibited. Noone asks at the door of the shul if you have done in the past, presently do, or are planning on doing, either of these forbidden things. It is noone's business. Why does anyone, rabbi or otherwise, need to have a "view" on other people's private behavior??
A jewish man has a mitzva to get married and have children. The biggest part of practicing judaism is in the home and personal life of an individual. It is hard to do that and actually impossible to fulfill some very important mitzvos without a jewish home and family.
Every person has their personal challenge, and not every person can fulfill every mitzva that pertains to them.
Again, that has no affect on you (general), so it should not matter.
Here are some normative torah thoughts on the subject (both links available from the trembling web site):http://www.aish.com/societyWork/arts...Before_G-d.asphttp://www.tremblingbeforeg-d.com/agudath.html