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post #1 of 13
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We had 33 hours of labor the first time, all very strong and fast.

I ended up on Pit when 16 hours after water broke labor stopped for 2 full hors and we tried everything myself, doula and MW could think of to restart it.

Ended up with an eperdural and forcepts after 3 hours of pushing.

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I had jsut about every intervention we didn't want (external moniton, internal monitor, Pit, Eperdural....)

This is going to be my last pregancy adn birth..... I want to go natural again and be successful this time.

Anyone wil any BTDT stories who were able to go totally natural at the next brith after a lot of interventions......

AImee
post #2 of 13
My first birth was an attempted home birth-hospital transfer.

I had some oxytocin augmentation, epidural- with many, many complications, catheter, external monitoring, a pp hemorrage and d&c.

My next birth was an intervention free (except for arom at my request) home birth.

You can do it. Good luck.
post #3 of 13
I'm not much use, my births were homebirth and c/s in that order. But wanted to send you lots and lots of support. Lots and lots of mamas go to low/no intervention birth after a complicated one - with many it's what makes them decide to "go natural". Big hugs - and go for it - you can do it!
xo robin
post #4 of 13
I had a hospital birth with an epidural with my first baby, and my second was nearly intervention free. (My last birth was totally intervention free. ) It's definitely possible! If you really want no interventions, though, you probably need to stay out of the hospital and have a birth center or home birth.
post #5 of 13
My first was not totally interventive, but I got Pit 24 hours after my water broke. It FELT intervened with. I still had a waterbirth (hospital). My 2nd was a totally uneventful UC at home that was less than 4 hours start to finish.
post #6 of 13
My first birth was as interventive as they get. I was in and out of the hospital for "monitoring" and then had a cesarean without so much as blinking. It took me almost 10 years to realize I could have said no.

My second pregnancy was VERY invasive, and they were pretty much as mean as possible, but my birth was at home, and I caught my DD. Not a single needle touched me, or another human being other than my husband, no drugs (other than some herbal remedies to help expel the placenta)... nothing. It was incredible.

I wrote a birth story for my first birth "Cody's Birth" (its the lowest entry on the page) and my second birth "Brianna's Birth" if you're interested. The difference between the two is just too much to explain in a thread response.

http://jennifersbirthjourney.blogspot.com/
post #7 of 13
My first birth had several interventions, and totally went against my "plan". Had a bad cold when I went to my last midwives appointment, they freaked and said I should have called them because of the cold...rushed to hospital, Ultrasound showed extremely low amniotic fluid, needed immediate induction. Had to be strapped to bed with constant extrenal monitoring for decels, high level pit, and was given demerol 8 hours later because I "needed to relax" When really I wanted no drugs at all. Dr rationalized demerol by saying they didn't think baby would be born for another 9 hours or so, I was only at 3 or so cm....Baby girl was born 30 minutes later.

Could have been more interventions, but the pit, the being strapped to the bed with iv and monitor and the drugs were too many for my liking.

Fast forward to DD2. My water broke at noon. relaxed walked around, tried different positions, tried bouncing on my excersize ball which I love, tried the bath since my birth pool exploded. Just did what worked for me at the time, and she was born at home, drug free intervention free with no tears for me and no troubles for her by 4:18 pm.

I am hoping for a similar experience with this pregnancy sometime in November.

And P.S. Both girls were born sunny side up with their hands on their faces....and I still feel I had no problems with number 2 because I was able to follow my body's cues and move in ways to open myself up.
post #8 of 13
my first w/ dd had so many interventions that to this day I am surprised I did not end up as a c-section. But I was uninformed about birth that I realize that it was my fault. With ds I studied up on birth and the birth process and hired a doula. I am active duty so I have to deliver in a hospital, no options given for a birth center and I didn't consider a homebirth at the time. But I learned so much and realized I needed to trust my body. I stayed home this time and only arrived at the hospital in time to push. I delivered on my hands and knees and it was the best feeling in the world to do what my body was made to do.

so my recommendation is to understand the process, why things are happening and get a doula or another mama who shares your beliefs to be your advocate in the event something goes wrong.

I truly believe that staying away from any hospital is the most important thing to do. They cant intervene if you are not there, and they can't put you on a time clock either.
post #9 of 13
I've had two hospital births, the first with tons of interventions and complications from those interventions, the second was virtually free of all that. I think the key to avoiding intervention is education and confidence. I've read stories about midwives who intervened even at home births so I'm not so sure that's the answer. If the mom doesn't educate herself instead of following her health care providers blindly when they suggest certain tests and interventions, it doesnt matter where you give birth. That said there are certainly hospitals and doctors that are more intervention-happy than others.

You have to be able to stand up for yourself and be confident in your decisions. For example, if you're 40 weeks along and they're talking induction based on nothing else but a due date that could be wrong, don't let them bully you into taking pitocin. read up on all the different interventions they commonly use so you know what to expect and whether it's really neccesary in your specific situation. Personally I'm not against the monitoring, I didn't find that internal or external monitoring in either of my births led to interventions or hindered the process, I was in pain no matter what position I was in so I didnt care whether I was hooked up to anything. I was induced because I had GD and an estimated "big baby" with my first. I believe the cytotec led to my dd going into mild distress which caused the meconium in her fluids. I also had pitocin which I think caused her jaundice which in turn made her so sleepy it was impossible to nurse her. So imo, in my case,, it wasn't the routine monitors but the routine medications that did me in. Fortunately I didn't have a c-section but I did get an episiotomy without even knowing it!

Anyway with my second I read everything I could on the internet and books posted in the sticky on this forum. That helped a lot. I went into labor on my own and although it was just as long and painful as my first, I didn't have nearly as many interventions because I made it clear to the nurses and doctor what I wanted. Also after my baby was born I told them in no uncertain terms that he wasn't going to be seperated from me unless it was a life or death emergency. I gave in and let them test his blood sugars but when they came back a tad low I declined sugar water and had them test again after we nursed and they went up YAY! If I wouldn't have educated myself to know what level was acceptable and interviewed a pediatrician prior to this who said that level was fine, I might have given in and accepted the sugar water. He never left my side the entire time, they did all the routine newborn procedures in front of me and were very respectful of my wishes to not give him the Hep B vax or circ him. I was very pleased with my birth experience the second time around. My ds was born healthy, no jaundice, no meconium and latched on and nursed much better than my first baby. It is possible to have an intervention free hospital birth, you just have to be an informed patient who knows your rights. We also left early, with the blessings of my OB and his pediatrician, even though I had group b strep and the policy was a 48 hour stay. So again, I was very pleased with how I was treated and being a second time mom who knew what she was doing made all the difference in the world.

Good luck!
post #10 of 13
YAY for you! I hope everything goes according to plan this time.

My first birth was an attempted homebirth that transferred to hospital. I ended up with AROM, monitors, pitocin, 3 hours 45 minutes of pushing, two episiotomies, demerol afterwards, PP hemorhage, and a baby in the NICU.

My second birth was an intervention-free homebirth. 2.5 hours of labour, 5 minutes of pushing. No internal exams, no AROM. A shot of pit for excessive bleeding...but other than that shot, nothing. It was amazing.

All the best,
Emily
post #11 of 13
DD#1 - PROM which led to pitocin to get things moving, back labor (probably from the strong pitocin contrax so that baby couldn't navigate), meconium (again probably from the strong stressing pitocin contrax), IV antibiotics, epidural that didn't really work, uterine pump to try to cleanse the meconium, scalp monitor, 4 hours 12 minutes of pushing, episiotomy, vaccuum extraction... baby taken immediately to the nicu for observation for meconium aspiration. It was basically 26 hours of hell followed by a half a day in the nicu instead of mommy's arms, problems with bf'ing (which I struggled through and we ended up nursing for 22 months), extremely hard recovery.

DD#2 - Got to the hospital in hard labor, dilated to 8, quickly dilated to 10 and then 7 minutes of pushing. The baby was born roughly 30 minutes after arriving at the hospital. The only intervention they had time for was the belly monitor and then I received a shot of pitocin PP to help my uterus contract, also a small tear repair. Baby was in my arms and nursing within 5 minutes of her birth and we were left like that for about an hour before we moved to our PP room.

Good Luck mamma!
post #12 of 13
One thing, avoid VEs towards the end of your pregnancy. They have no real purpose ("you're 2 cm dialated, you could go into labor tonight, or in a month, who knows?") and increase your risk of PROM. Less risk with a midwife, but still no point in having them.
post #13 of 13
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One thing, avoid VEs towards the end of your pregnancy. They have no real purpose ("you're 2 cm dialated, you could go into labor tonight, or in a month, who knows?") and increase your risk of PROM. Less risk with a midwife, but still no point in having them.
I agree! That was a huge thing for my second birth. The VE were the beginning of the end for my first homebirth ("Labour stalled...let's AROM"). No VE for my entire pg with #2...we knew I was 10cm when she was crowning. Worked perfectly.
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