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post #101 of 197
My 6yr old DS is lazy at times. If we're going to school, he's happy to walk. But as soon as we go somewhere like the shops (somewhere his friends are unlikely to be) he pretty much snatches it from his little sister. Do you guys still buckle them in when they're say 4 - 5ish?
post #102 of 197
I really don't see the big deal either. My daughter who is 4, usually does walk, but she gets tired, so she rides in the stroller.
post #103 of 197
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Originally Posted by AussieMumOf2 View Post
My 6yr old DS is lazy at times. If we're going to school, he's happy to walk. But as soon as we go somewhere like the shops (somewhere his friends are unlikely to be) he pretty much snatches it from his little sister. Do you guys still buckle them in when they're say 4 - 5ish?
I do still buckle my dd is. But we have a jogging stroller and it is pretty easy to hit a pothole and launch a child out of it. Especially when I actually jog with it, which is pretty rare. I got the jogging stroller for the big wheels that do really well in snow and rough terrain.
post #104 of 197
When my ds was 4 he often rode in the stroller. If I had agreed he'd probably have ridden in it to kindergarten!
post #105 of 197
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Originally Posted by thismama View Post
Why is there so much judgment over ridiculous things like whether a child rides in a stroller or walks?
Why, so some above-it-all supermama somewhere can do her superior dance, of course. :
post #106 of 197
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Originally Posted by spero View Post
Why, so some above-it-all supermama somewhere can do her superior dance, of course. :
I remember reading a thread in the past about someone walking 6 or 7 kids home from grocery shopping, all holding hands, ranging in age from 2 and up, while holding groceries to boot, all so they wouldn't have to be contained in a stroller or wagon.

I think the idea was that if you never let them ride in a stroller and made them walk from the time they were able, that they'd learn to walk and keep up from an early age. That, or just never complain of being tired. I'm not sure. It was an interesting thread, anyway.

Personally, I think the judgment stems from the "you'll spoil them" mentality. I hear it all the time when I wear my almost 13 month old. I guess she's passed the age of "needing" to be worn, and can darn well ride in the shopping cart or stroller. Soon she won't even need those.
post #107 of 197
I am not trying to read minds here...but perhaps the OP's question more comes from the place of having only one infant. Those 3 and 4 yr olds look like grownups when you have a baby who can't even hold up his head, kwim? Kind of like mothers of 7 mos olds who post about all the bullying 18 mos old babies being mean at LLL meetings.

New parents don't yet have the prespective of what an 18 mos old is capable of, and whether a 4 or 5 yr old can get tired or bored when shopping? Kind of how the toddler looks like a giant when you bring the new baby home, and one starts expecting an old baby to be 'big" and you're sure he/she 'understands everything I say".

I don't know. Walking is good, happily chillin' in a sling or stroller or backpack is good.

Respected kids = cool. Dragged or restrained miserable children = not cool.
post #108 of 197
It looks like it has all been said already anyway...but I'm adding my thoughts all the same. My son is almost 3 years old and I still prefer to take a stroller every time we leave the house. We live in the city and I do not have a car. He is a big kid for his age and I stopped being able to carry him very well about a year ago. If we are going to run any errands and purchase items that I will have to carry home or if we are going to be out for a long time - I am in big trouble without a stroller. I can't carry him AND other items plus, he misses his chance to have a nap while I can go about running my errands.

Interestingly, my son also has a much greater interest in being pushed in the stroller since he started daycare shortly after he turned two years old. They go on walks each day and he, of course, does not get pushed in a stroller. I think its a mild regression to wanting mommy to take care of him given the new demands on him for autonmy during the weekdays. He is also much more demanding about being carried, too.
post #109 of 197
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
Then you need to do this.
Oh my hell, I just woke up my almost-sleeping baby with my snort.
post #110 of 197
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
I remember reading a thread in the past about someone walking 6 or 7 kids home from grocery shopping, all holding hands, ranging in age from 2 and up, while holding groceries to boot, all so they wouldn't have to be contained in a stroller or wagon.
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I acutally have had a problem at times with seeing with people holding the hands of 2 yr olds when walking a lot. The poor kid's arm must cramp up. How uncomfortable, really. I only say that because you most always see the toddler trying to take his hand away. That can't feel great. I'd rather see a little puppy harness around the baby. At least then they can have use of both hands, and no cramping up. And cool for being carried or being in a stroller...but sometimes 2 yr olds want to explore. They should have all options open to them.
post #111 of 197
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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
is this a way for parents to keep their kids "contained"? are the kids too lazy to walk?
I'm having a hard time understanding why this bothers you?

I could drop my 4yo off at the park and he will run and play for as long as you let him. Take him to the mall or shopping and pretty soon he's whining that his feet are tired, that he's tired of walking, that he's tired of this store. Now I'm usually waaay to lazy to drag my double stroller shopping, but I'd hate to be judged for using it if it gives comfort for my kids. Kids that age aren't really wired for long shopping trips....if they like riding in a stroller, who cares??
post #112 of 197
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Originally Posted by UUMom View Post
I acutally have had a problem at times with seeing with people holding the hands of 2 yr olds when walking a lot. The poor kid's arm must cramp up. How uncomfortable, really. I only say that because you most always see the toddler trying to take his hand away. That can't feel great.
That's my daughter, to a tee! We were at the mall a few weeks ago and I let her down out of the Ergo to walk around. She immediately headed into the nearest shop to pull stuff off the shelves (which happened to be a salon, oh the joys of shampoo bottles! ). When I tried to hold her hand, not only was her arm stretched up way over her head, but she'd pull it away and/or promptly fall to the floor and scream. If I let her go she was happy as a clam. I finally got so sick of picking her up and dragging her away from the store fronts kicking and screaming that I had to put her back in the Ergo, where she screamed the entire way back to the car.

So what do I do? Force her to hold my hand, while I drag her sliding on her butt, all in the name freedom from "containment devices"? Let her shoplift (which she'd happily do, grab a shampoo bottle and run..lol)? Make her sit in a stroller or back pack? Or *gasp* use a harness so she can happily explore while I redirect her in a way that is not forceful and almost makes her think it's *her* idea, without reefing her arm up over her head? Let me tell you, I've thought about it!

Long story short, I totally agree with you.
post #113 of 197
Kids just get tired too. There are times I would ride in a stroller! I don't see it as a problem at all. My mom pushed me around when I was 3 or 4 sometimes. I also went on long hikes without being carried too. I don't think it promotes laziness at all. When you have 2 or 3 kids sometimes you just feel safer, or happier if the kid needs a break. I choose not to judge other peoples choices as far as children go (unless extreme, like abuse or something). It is a HARD job and we all get by using whatever means possible.
post #114 of 197
Many people here have given reasons why strollers are useful for older children which I perfectly understand, but what I don't understand is why there seems to be so much displeasure toward what to me just seemed to be a simple question from Elliesmama. I didn't get the sense that she was necessarily being judgemental; maybe she is just from a different culture where strollers are not ubiquitous.

Although I already posted in this thread, I want to add something from another culture's perspective. In my country of origin, strollers are not used at all. They are not sold in stores and are not practical anyway because there are few sidewalks and terrible road conditions. Very rarely, someone visting from the U.S. or Canada will travel back home with one, just to use in the airport they left from. Babywearing is not practiced either. Babies are carried in arms until they can walk. Once they can walk steadily, they walk everywhere. Occasionally, a very tired toddler might be carried briefly by someone else. It is not unusual to see 2 and 3 year old children walking several miles with others, and often they are carrying things. So for people from my country now living in the U.S. or Canada, it IS strange to see older children in strollers - most can understand the usefulness before the child can walk, but not much beyond that, because they did not grow up seeing it. Even among those of us who are raised here, our parents didn't tend to use strollers very long (if at all, depending on when they arrived). As a result, even among the younger generation, strollers don't seem to be used very long either.
post #115 of 197
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Originally Posted by yamilee21 View Post
In my country of origin, strollers are not used at all.
Where are you from? It's interesting to learn from other cultures, but hard to relate when you don't know where that culture is.
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post #117 of 197
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Originally Posted by North_Of_60 View Post
Where are you from? It's interesting to learn from other cultures, but hard to relate when you don't know where that culture is.
Where I am from is actually irrelevant, because there are many countries and cultures throughout the world in which strollers are rare or non-existent.
post #118 of 197
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Originally Posted by yamilee21 View Post
Where I am from is actually irrelevant, because there are many countries and cultures throughout the world in which strollers are rare or non-existent.
Ok. I don't know what cultures those are, hence the reason I asked. Sorry.
post #119 of 197
North_of_60, I don't want to hijack this thread further, but one thing to consider is that about half of the world's population lives on less than $2.00 (U.S.) a day, so these families are not going to spend their limited resources on strollers. If you have an idea of about how wealth is distributed on this planet, it is fairly easy to figure out where stroller usage is uncommon.
post #120 of 197
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Originally Posted by yamilee21 View Post
North_of_60, I don't want to hijack this thread further, but one thing to consider is that about half of the world's population lives on less than $2.00 (U.S.) a day, so these families are not going to spend their limited resources on strollers. If you have an idea of about how wealth is distributed on this planet, it is fairly easy to figure out where stroller usage is uncommon.
You're right, I'm sure I could figure out where stroller use is uncommon. However, since this is a discussion forum, and someone happened by with a perspective about a current discussion, I hoped to gain more information so as to familiarize myself with that perspective. Again, I'm sorry if that offended you. I started a spin off thread to discuss this very thing.
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