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post #121 of 197
I can totally understand and endorse stroller use when it is mutually agreeable for parent and child, but I have also known parents that force their 2-5 year-old children to ride in the stroller--because they are easier to control, parent can walk at their own pace and not that of an exploring toddler. So I can understand a bit where the op is coming from. I do think strollers are overused--where I live I am a crazy permissive weirdo for allowing my 2.5yo to walk.
post #122 of 197
I am trying to figure out what the big deal is? I'll save my judgements for the people that hit their kids or let them CIO but I would never judge someone for using a stroller. There are many times I wish I could climb in the stroller and be pushed around.

We use a stroller for our 4 year old, but it is up to him as to when he wants to get in. We take it to the mall because when we go to the mall, we spend a lot of time there. No way am I going to carry a 45 pound child around when he gets tired. We don't "contain" him in it - it is completely his choice as to whether he rides or walks.

He is not unhealthy and gets plenty of activity throughout the day.
post #123 of 197

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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma View Post
just a quick question: we've been to the mall a few times recently, and i keep seeing kids 3-4 years old or more being pushed around in strollers. they all look like healthy kids who can walk. not to be a b*t*h, but what's up with that? is this a way for parents to keep their kids "contained"? are the kids too lazy to walk?
Who knows really. <shrug> Parents may have their own motivations.

I'd say containment and the kids may be tired of walking. Malls are not usually child friendly. Also for my kids it was the novelty. They liked riding in the wagon because they COULD. We didn't have one at home. Same for the car strollers they had.

Like I said in other posts-my kids went through phases-sometimes they wanted to ride.

Also-a three/four yo may be younger than you think. My oldest was very, very big for his age.
post #124 of 197
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Originally Posted by MtBikeLover View Post
I'll save my judgements for the people that hit their kids or let them CIO but I would never judge someone for using a stroller.
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post #125 of 197
I think it's obvious that the U.S. is a little more gung-ho on strollers than say, oh, a lot of other countries. I don't think that means that they don't have their uses. I don't think their occasional overuse or misuse means that they can't ever be extremely useful or helpful. I don't think it makes sense to judge someone pushing an older kid b/c you most likely have no way of knowing why they are using it or how often they do. I also think it's easy to wonder why older kids can't just always walk when you don't have older kids (or maybe the op did, but I'm assuming she doesn't). I had no idea that 2-3 year-olds couldn't just happily follow you they way a 4,5, or 6 year-old might.
post #126 of 197
As someone has said, I think that at the end of the day, this is another one of those instances of someone who does not have children of X age, saying "When dc is X age, I would never do XXX"
post #127 of 197
I haven't read all the replies, so I have no idea what's been said so far.

I have a 1 year old (non-walking) son who rides in a stroller, or in one of our baby carriers (Kozy, Peanut, etc). I also take care of a two year old little boy who walks when we go places. I am looking into a double stroller though. He can sit in the Kozy, but wants to explore. I'm okay with that. But sometimes he gets tired, sometimes he's just getting into too much (i.e. running through Hallmark in the mall trying to knock glass figures off the shelves) and I don't feel like messing with it at the moment. But normally he does walk and explore. We go out FOR the boys. I want them to learn about the things around them. Be that at the park, mall, zoo, Target, whatever.

There's not a thing wrong with a 4 year old being pushed in a stroller. But it's also not something that would often happen for us. They are big enough to walk without tiring quickly. We don't stay out long enough for a 4 year old to tire out. Now, at an amusement park, the zoo, things like that, I would plan for a four year old to ride in something. I wouldn't want their little legs and feet to start cramping and all that.
post #128 of 197
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Originally Posted by yamilee21 View Post
what I don't understand is why there seems to be so much displeasure toward what to me just seemed to be a simple question from Elliesmama. I didn't get the sense that she was necessarily being judgemental;
Really.
I'm offended by the wording of the OP - to me it is harsh and judgmental. And like a PP noted - if you feel the need to temper your post with a statement like, "not to be a b*t*h, but ..." - you should probably rethink what you're saying and how you're saying it. KWIM?

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Originally Posted by ElliesMomma
just a quick question: we've been to the mall a few times recently, and i keep seeing kids 3-4 years old or more being pushed around in strollers. they all look like healthy kids who can walk. not to be a b*t*h, but what's up with that? is this a way for parents to keep their kids "contained"? are the kids too lazy to walk?
post #129 of 197
Spero, it didn't sound judgmental to me because that is exactly what my immigrant or visiting relatives say when they see older children in strollers. They also say the same thing to me when they see me babywearing my 20 month old, since he can walk.
post #130 of 197
My SIL once jokingly asked my still-crawling 13-month old when she was going to "stop being so lazy and get up and walk!" (Her kid walked at 10 months.)

Even though she was joking and we're family, I still found it an incredibly rude and offensive thing to say.
post #131 of 197
I only have one friend who does this with her four year old, and it is for containment. She always pressures me to bring a stroller for my son when we do things, but he has never really liked the stroller...he is really high energy and would rather walk. Her son will get upset and want to get out and walk, but it is more convenient for her to leave him in there.

She doesn't do it all the time, but it still creeps me out a little.

I am sure that there are a wide variety of reasons why you might see a larger kid in a stroller. Most have been mentioned, I think, but I wanted to share my personal experience that yes, some people are doing for their comfort, not the child's.
With all the obesity problems we have in this country I try to get DS moving as much as possible!!

The only time DS has used a stroller since he was 2 is if we are going to be walking more than 2 miles. Otherwise he is fine. But every kid is different, he is really high energy!!!
post #132 of 197
I have noticed that my DD (30 months) has been insisting on the stroller more lately. She used to insist on walking. I don't like this trend, above all because she is getting heavy and it tires me out to push the stroller. I have told her that there will be no more stroller once she turns 3 (in August). And there will not be, because it sits in our entry and we would like to free the space. She is still thinking about whether she likes this idea or not.
post #133 of 197
All my kids still sat in Strollers at one time or another up until they were about 4 1/2 yrs. Especially if we were at at mall, taking a long walk to the park or at a store. Sure they were old enough to walk but it was for their safety. I have 4 kids and the 3 youngest were born in less than 4 yrs. I didn't need a 4, 2, And 1 yr old running off in different directions.: And if given the chance that is exactly what would of happened.
post #134 of 197
All my kids look like "healthy normal kids". My 6 year old DS rides in the cart when we grocery shop. It sure beats chasing him while he is launching items or having a meltdown. So yeah, its containment. And he chooses to contain himself, I don't force it. He KNOWs he can't control his urges and asks to be placed there to start with. After about 2 isles, if he is walking, he is sitting on the floor or just slumped to the side of the isle. (We are getting him checked for low muscle tone).

Oh yeah, I just bought a jogging stroller this year as well so I could rollerblade and take my 4 year old with. I plan on taking it to the zoo later this month because I know at least one of the younger 2 are bound to get tired.
post #135 of 197
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Originally Posted by sunnysideup View Post
I can totally understand and endorse stroller use when it is mutually agreeable for parent and child, but I have also known parents that force their 2-5 year-old children to ride in the stroller--because they are easier to control, parent can walk at their own pace and not that of an exploring toddler. So I can understand a bit where the op is coming from. I do think strollers are overused--where I live I am a crazy permissive weirdo for allowing my 2.5yo to walk.

Not to pick on you, really, but I hope everyone realizes that not all special needs child look like they have "special needs". When my DS was 3, the instant we walked into a store he was on the floor screaming and throwing his body. If he was free of "containment" he'd ram himself into me over and over again the entire shopping trip. Or ram himself into shelves, people, sibblings etc over and over again. He still has troubles with stores. But sometimes I HAVE to bring him. So, yes, he is put in a cart. He is to the point where he knows (now) its better for him and he has more control over his body and how he takes in the store if he is contained. He is able to process it all better and enjoys it all more. But it wasn't always that way and I got lots of comments about "making" him sit in a cart. So I just ask that all those who are jumping to conclusions about "containment' take a step back and think about the possible reasons for why the parent may strap their child into a stroller or cart. It may be for their well-being and safety.
post #136 of 197
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Originally Posted by sunnysideup View Post
I can totally understand and endorse stroller use when it is mutually agreeable for parent and child, but I have also known parents that force their 2-5 year-old children to ride in the stroller--because they are easier to control, parent can walk at their own pace and not that of an exploring toddler. So I can understand a bit where the op is coming from. I do think strollers are overused--where I live I am a crazy permissive weirdo for allowing my 2.5yo to walk.
I agree with this. I hate to see older kids in strollers, but I try to assume that the mom is really busy, or whatever, and that it is not the norm for the kid to be in the stroller. I am also the wierdo, my DD was wound up from the hour long bus ride, so she walked through walmart with me yesterday, and I got the look from several people. There was one lady who was playing with her some, and talking about how happy she seemed, she said most kids her age seemed so miserable when in the cart. I was amazed by how much smoother things went with her walking. (We tried to let her walk last month and she ran off)
post #137 of 197
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Originally Posted by VernaBloom View Post
I've been noticing that a lot lately too, even with kids who look like they're 7 - 8 years old. Most of the time they're with a younger (stroller aged) sibling that's being carried. My guess is the older kid gets a little jealous and takes a turn in the stroller now and then.


Okay, I've got a lot of thread to read here, but need to ask, do you know any 7 - 8 yos?

My kids are undersized according to any standard, and they wouldn't even fit in even a large stroller at 7 - 8.


Maybe the kids you're seeing are 4 - 5 ish.
post #138 of 197
I can definitely see circumstances when my dds are tired and would love to ride (they always ride in the cart). So I guess I wouldn't judge if that is how the mom can get her shopping done- as long as it wasn't against the kids will. My dds started walking at 9mos and wanted to walk from that point on, but everybody gets tired. I was just at Universal Studios and SeaWorld for 3 days and would have loved a wheelchair some days.
post #139 of 197
I don't judge parents who have their preschool child in a stroller because you never know if the child has "special needs", including medical issues
post #140 of 197
Lol

I still have my 3 1/2 year old in his pushchair around 3 times a week. Mainly because I am working on losing weight atm and he no longer wants to be worn, but cannot keep up at a speed that allows me to exercise that way. I also have him in a pushchair for a trip we make into the local city (10 min walk - my speed - plus a train journey and a walk accross the centre at the other end) to a group we go to. It enables us all (me and my DDs) to go at a speed that means we get to the group on time. He gets plenty of non-pushchair time, and will often walk shorter distances quite happily (although we then use reins on him as main roads and running impulsive, not yet road savvy toddlers don't mix!) He gets plenty of practise with road/walking situations though...

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